Proposal: Trade Rumors and Proposals Thread: Countdown to countdown to the drafts

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Raab

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and then Nurse-Benning?

Dont think that is a contender caliber D group if even league average.

Instead of wasting prime assets like Pulju, RNH to gt Pesce might as well re sign Russell without much downgrade.

If we are trading Puljujarvi I would look higher.. Hanifin was mentioned but he is another LHD. I would go after Byfuglien with retension.

Sekera-Byfuglien
Klefbom-Larsson would be much higher than league average top 4 if not near the top.

I think your really underestimating Pesce. He's kind of under the radar guy similar to Larsson and look what we had to give up for him. Guy is an absolute warrior and defensive beast.

Edit: Also wanted to add Buff is way to unpredicatable in the defensive zone and is aging with a big contract. Really dont see why this guy gets the love he does when I watch him play. If you can land Pesce, you basically run a PP specialist on the bottom pairing with Nurse or Benning, or Reinhart. Long term you look for another offensive dman to take Sekera's spot.
 

Samus44

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With Pittsburgh sitting Hagelin again would anyone be interested in a Pouliot for Hagelin swap. Hagelin is signed for 2 more years at 4 per, basically the same as Pouliot. He's a great skater but obviously doesn't have the size Pouliot does. Both have fared well by advanced stats in the past. I think Pouliot is likely better but it would be an interesting idea.
 

CornKicker

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What do people think of RNH+Puljujarvi for Brett Pesce and Victor Rask? Does Carolina do it, do we? Think its a pretty fair deal.

i think thats pretty bad to be honest Pesce doesnt cover that spread
 

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If I'm LV and Chi goes 4-4 and 1 I easily take Ryan Hartman or Richard Panik. If they trade TVR whatever just take a guy like Svedberg and be done with it. No sense saddling themselves to a bad contract for a mediocre player.

Yeah. I feel like the person who reported the TVR thing didn't really think too hard on it.

What does LV get out of it? They can just take one of Hartman, Pokka or TVR without making any deals with Chicago.
 

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I think your really underestimating Pesce. He's kind of under the radar guy similar to Larsson and look what we had to give up for him. Guy is an absolute warrior and defensive beast.

Edit: Also wanted to add Buff is way to unpredicatable in the defensive zone and is aging with a big contract. Really dont see why this guy gets the love he does when I watch him play. If you can land Pesce, you basically run a PP specialist on the bottom pairing with Nurse or Benning, or Reinhart. Long term you look for another offensive dman to take Sekera's spot.

Slavin would be the guy I would be targeting if we are moving two of our major assets.
 

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If I'm LV and Chi goes 4-4 and 1 I easily take Ryan Hartman or Richard Panik. If they trade TVR whatever just take a guy like Svedberg and be done with it. No sense saddling themselves to a bad contract for a mediocre player.

that is why they can not go 4-4-1 and if they did it would be RHD Pokke they protect and not TVR

IF VEgas took bolth TVR and Krugar--Mcphee is gone with in two seasons if not sooner--unless he is getting multiple picks and he would be leaving better pieces on the table
 

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Stauffer tubthumping for McIlrath again.

Thing is I agree with him... I'd take a shot at him as well. RHD with size and youth.. still developing. Wouldn't hurt to have him in the Oilers system.

No time for him. He is a career minor league tough guy. Give me a highly skilled RHD to try out at #7D or #6 spot who atleast has some upside
 

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Buffalo prospect choosing the loophole. I want to sign him for nothing other than to rub in McDavid factor even more
 
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With Pittsburgh sitting Hagelin again would anyone be interested in a Pouliot for Hagelin swap. Hagelin is signed for 2 more years at 4 per, basically the same as Pouliot. He's a great skater but obviously doesn't have the size Pouliot does. Both have fared well by advanced stats in the past. I think Pouliot is likely better but it would be an interesting idea.

I am in. Hagelin hasn't really stuck very often but that speed is impeccable.
 

Jet Walters

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and then Nurse-Benning?

Dont think that is a contender caliber D group if even league average.

Instead of wasting prime assets like Pulju, RNH to gt Pesce might as well re sign Russell without much downgrade.

If we are trading Puljujarvi I would look higher.. Hanifin was mentioned but he is another LHD. I would go after Byfuglien with retension.

Sekera-Byfuglien
Klefbom-Larsson would be much higher than league average top 4 if not near the top.

I'd love to add big Buff. He fills pretty much every need we have on the backend.

I just don't know if they'd want Puljujarvi. If they trade one of their RHD I'm sure the centrepiece coming back would be a top 4 LHD or a stud goalie. Would love to get Roslovic and Lowry somehow too. The Jets are fairly thin on LW and could use some speed. They are one of the few teams I could see Pouliot finding his game again on.
 

Joey Moss

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If I'm LV and Chi goes 4-4 and 1 I easily take Ryan Hartman or Richard Panik. If they trade TVR whatever just take a guy like Svedberg and be done with it. No sense saddling themselves to a bad contract for a mediocre player.

Agreed. Makes no sense at all considering Vegas could have defenseman like Orlov/Schmidt, Brodin/Scandella, Cole, Pysyk/Petrovic etc.. plenty of other options.
 

NeverForget06

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I'd love to add big Buff. He fills pretty much every need we have on the backend.

I just don't know if they'd want Puljujarvi. If they trade one of their RHD I'm sure the centrepiece coming back would be a top 4 LHD or a stud goalie. Would love to get Roslovic and Lowry somehow too. The Jets are fairly thin on LW and could use some speed. They are one of the few teams I could see Pouliot finding his game again on.

Would we really be able to afford big buff though ? 7.6 million is a hefty price tag for a guy who really is only getting slower.

Personally I think if we gave them JP for Buff they would be robbing us blind and putting us in a cap bind

Edit: Just saw the comment you were responding to suggested Buff would be retained. 50% is the league max. If the Jets would retain him down to around 4.5 I would take him on our team, but still not for JP. I wouldn't even do it even they gave full retention so his salary was 3.8 million
 

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and then Nurse-Benning?

Dont think that is a contender caliber D group if even league average.

Instead of wasting prime assets like Pulju, RNH to gt Pesce might as well re sign Russell without much downgrade.

If we are trading Puljujarvi I would look higher.. Hanifin was mentioned but he is another LHD. I would go after Byfuglien with retension.

Sekera-Byfuglien
Klefbom-Larsson would be much higher than league average top 4 if not near the top.
I'd much rather have Pesce than Byfuglien call me old fashioned, but I like defense men who are actually capable of playing defense. Any defense that features Byfuglien so prominently is doomed for failure he makes too many mistakes and they are so random, you just can't depend on him. If I am getting Byfuglien it is to play him on the wing and the retention better be fairly significant cause that contract can turn bad rather quick and looks like it is already starting to, I'm guessing he will earn his salary next year with a bounce back season and will be a boat anchor for the 3 years after that.

People badly underestimate Pesce he's basically a less physical, less polished Larsson, there is more upside to Hanifin and Faulk, but he outplayed both last year. Slavin carries Pesce a little bit, but I'd say he's probably a solid #3 d-man at this point and he gets paid less than $1M, is 22, and is expansion draft exempt.

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Pouliot has speed and can PK. Seeing how quickly Hagelin washed out of Anaheim already has me leaning towards Poo.
Hagelin has speed and can PK. As a matter of fact Hagelin has 423:33 mins of PK time in the last 3 years to 178:40 mins of Pouliot. Pouliot is capable of outplaying Hagelin, but he mailed it in this year, I would make the change for the sake of change.
 

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With Pittsburgh sitting Hagelin again would anyone be interested in a Pouliot for Hagelin swap. Hagelin is signed for 2 more years at 4 per, basically the same as Pouliot. He's a great skater but obviously doesn't have the size Pouliot does. Both have fared well by advanced stats in the past. I think Pouliot is likely better but it would be an interesting idea.

I think I would prefer they just buyout Pouliot.
 

nexttothemoon

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This Cal Petersen goalie has some pretty special looking stats.

He'd be a hell of a pickup for the Oilers... especially if they somehow lose Brossoit to Vegas.


Just looked... Shane Starrett seems to have pretty similar numbers so maybe the Oilers already have their NCAA gamble in the bag for now.
 

nexttothemoon

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I like Pesce, Hagelin and Byfuglien.

Now what are the chances those trades happen? We always seem to come up with lots of interesting trade ideas but the trades that usually happen are out of left field for players that aren't even on our radar.
 

Soundwave

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I like Pesce, Hagelin and Byfuglien.

Now what are the chances those trades happen? We always seem to come up with lots of interesting trade ideas but the trades that usually happen are out of left field for players that aren't even on our radar.

I'd steer clear on Buff. You may like the deal for one year ... and then hate it for the next 5.
 

PaPaDee

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Based on what speedy mentioned on trade deadline day, I feel there was a deal close to occurring that involved Eberle or RNH. I wouldn't be surprised to see that revisited by Chia.
 

Burnt Biscuits

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Based on what speedy mentioned on trade deadline day, I feel there was a deal close to occurring that involved Eberle or RNH. I wouldn't be surprised to see that revisited by Chia.

Can I get a refresher on what was said?
 

PaPaDee

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Can I get a refresher on what was said?

Just from memory, he was calling for a trade to happen. Some thought it was the DD trade, but I expected it to be much bigger given ST's history of calling trades/deals. I think there was something else in the works that got nixed for whatever reason. This is all based upon my gut.
 

belair

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Just from memory, he was calling for a trade to happen. Some thought it was the DD trade, but I expected it to be much bigger given ST's history of calling trades/deals. I think there was something else in the works that got nixed for whatever reason. This is all based upon my gut.

He said it was going to be an 'interesting day' IIRC. Quite vague.
 
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