Proposal: Trade Proposal Thread - The real deadline edition

[Price is Wright]

Also, I would definitely trade Pacioretty for Brassard. So, I doubt we get more for Pacioretty than Ottawa got for Brassard.

You probably remember 15-16 Brassard.

That ain't 17-18 Brassard.

 

[Habs100]

You probably remember 15-16 Brassard.

That ain't 17-18 Brassard.

And is 17-18 Pacioretty 15-16 Pacioretty? Or are you buying the excuse that he's nervous about getting traded that's why he's been wandering around the ice all season aimlessly.

 

[SnapVirus]

ANOTher center can now be added to the list of centers traded league wide during MB’s terrible reign.

 

[DubDub]

Alright, so I'm new here, so I don't know if y'all talked about that for like 25 pages earlier, but wouldn't it make perfect sense to try to trade for Karlsson?

The Sens are obviously trying to save money right now, so isn't Weber's contract actually perfect for them? They replace an elite right handed dman by an elite right handed dman who will only cost them 30M$ for the next 8 years...

We can even absorb Ryan's contract.

Trade could look a bit like:

Karlsson
Ryan

for

Weber
Lehkonen
2019 1st round pick
2018 2nd round pick.

Someone did break this down a few pages ago, something very similar to your post, not sure if the 1st in 19 was added, but it was discussed..

 

[NobleSix]

Alright, so I'm new here, so I don't know if y'all talked about that for like 25 pages earlier, but wouldn't it make perfect sense to try to trade for Karlsson?

The Sens are obviously trying to save money right now, so isn't Weber's contract actually perfect for them? They replace an elite right handed dman by an elite right handed dman who will only cost them 30M$ for the next 8 years...

We can even absorb Ryan's contract.

Trade could look a bit like:

Karlsson
Ryan

for

Weber
Lehkonen
2019 1st round pick
2018 2nd round pick.

It would take a much better offer than that to get Karlsson. I can't see the Sens being very interested in trading EK for an older and worse defenseman with a big cap hit, a top 9 forward, a mystery pick, and a second rounder from a rival.

The talk is that the Sens are looking for 5-6 good peices for Karlsson. I doubt we could afford EK without completely gutting our entire future. Besides, we have enough bad contracts as it is without taking on Ryan.

It's a moot point anyway imo, considering Bergevin seems to be more intent on trading away skilled puck moving defensemen rather than actually bringing them in.

 

[justafan22]

ANOTher center can now be added to the list of centers traded league wide during MB’s terrible reign.

"The last one traded was joe thornton" "You want me to deal carey price? That's what it takes"

 

[Habs100]

I wouldn't

I want to get young players for Pacioretty. But if that weren't the case, I'd rather have Brassard, a center who's on pace for 25 goals and 52 points, than Pacioretty. I think their values as assets are very similar. Pacioretty's getting older. His game is based on speed, which I haven't seen much of lately.

 

[Habs100]

Wtf?

Sometimes reality hurts.

 

[CHarlie]

I want to get young players for Pacioretty. But if that weren't the case, I'd rather have Brassard, a center who's on pace for 25 goals and 52 points, than Pacioretty. I think their values as assets are very similar. Pacioretty's getting older. His game is based on speed, which I haven't seen much of lately.

Too late.

 

[Habs100]

I want to get young players for Pacioretty. But if that weren't the case, I'd rather have Brassard, a center who's on pace for 25 goals and 52 points, than Pacioretty. I think their values as assets are very similar. Pacioretty's getting older. His game is based on speed, which I haven't seen much of lately.

Too late.

Like I said, I'd rather get young players for Pacioretty. My point is, I don't think Brassard's value is higher than Pacioretty's.

Sorry to all those who were dreaming of getting 1st round picks for Plekanec and Byron and a young stud center for Pacioretty.

 

[The Great Weal]

Sometimes reality hurts.

Pacioretty is vastly superior

 

[Price is Wright]

Sorry to all those who were dreaming of getting 1st round picks for Plekanec and Byron and a young stud center for Pacioretty.

I agree with you here.

Nobody is giving up a Vilardi class player for Pacioretty.

 

[le_sean]

Brassard is one of the most average players I've seen. I don't even know what he's particularly good at.

Good 2C, fantastic 3C for the Pens.

 

[Habs100]

Pacioretty is vastly superior

He sure was. But he's not this year. Brassard has better numbers and Brassard's a center.

I have a feeling we're going to have to bring in a center or a player like Radulov to play with him so he can get his numbers up because right now his numbers suck, his play sucks, and I think his trade value sucks.

 

[BLONG7]

Brassard is one of the most average players I've seen. I don't even know what he's particularly good at.

Good 2C, fantastic 3C for the Pens.

Another centre who gets traded, and our GM says, centre's don't get traded...? Really Marc?

 

[V13]

I'm totally fine with not landing Brassard , espcially if he was to re-sign here. Too much of risk for a guy who sometimes is a 2nd C , sometimes a 3rd or sometimes just plain out sucks.

Too much inconsistency

 

[Habs100]

I agree with you here.

Nobody is giving up a Vilardi class player for Pacioretty.

The situation with Pacioretty is concerning. It looks like his trade value is low. We don't have the center or playmaking winger like Radulov to get his numbers back up.

So we might be in a situation where we have to trade him now or at the draft for less than his real value or at the deadline next year as a rental. I don't want to pay him 7 to 8 million per year.

The only way we get out of this problem is if some team steps up and gives up good players for him or if he resigns for a reasonable amount, given his anemic production this year and next year.

 

[Price is Wright]

He sure was. But he's not this year. Brassard has better numbers and Brassard's a center.

I have a feeling we're going to have to bring in a center or a player like Radulov to play with him so he can get his numbers up because right now his numbers suck, his play sucks, and I think his trade value sucks.

I've yet to hear an insider say that Pacioretty is going to get a lower than expected return.

 

[Uber Coca]

The "but centers aren't getting traded" argument would work if Brassard wasn't a shitty centerman that gets traded a lot. Bergevin talked about #1 centers, guys. Yes, it's a lame excuse to use when you failed to acquire the one obvious player this team needed, but crying over Brassard? I don't see it.

 

[Habs100]

I've yet to hear an insider say that Pacioretty is going to get a lower than expected return.

What's the expected return? Because McKenzie and LeBrun are saying Nash and Kane are more interesting to teams, and Hoffman may be too. They didn't seem too high on his trade value in conversations on tsn690.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

The "but centers aren't getting traded" argument would work if Brassard wasn't a ****ty centerman that gets traded a lot. Bergevin talked about #1 centers, guys. Yes, it's a lame excuse to use when you failed to acquire the one obvious player this team needed, but crying over Brassard? I don't see it.

Brassard is not what this team needs whatsoever , maybe 3 years ago

 

[ottawa]

Also, I would definitely trade Pacioretty for Brassard. So, I doubt we get more for Pacioretty than Ottawa got for Brassard.

Congratulations, you're dumber than Bergevin

 

[The Great Weal]

Congratulations, you're dumber than Bergevin

Quite the Herculean task.

 

[Habs Icing]

Really impressive how Rutherford turned a late 1st and a goalie prospect he got in the 2nd round, when the Pens already have their goalie of the future, into Derrick Brassard.

You're imaging things. This isn't playstation.

 

[Habs100]

Congratulations, you're dumber than Bergevin

So what are we going to get for Pacioretty, genius? Go ahead, step up and tell us what we're really going to get for him. So we can see how smart you really are when he goes. Put it on paper.