Proposal: Trade of many bodies (MTL/TOR) Kapanen, Gauthier...

ottomaddox

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To MTL
Kapanen
Gauthier
Aaltonen
Pickard
3rd round pick in 2018
conditional 5th round pick in 2019

To TOR
Petry
Lindgren
Juulsen

Montreal strengthens their C position with prospects, gains a NHL ready backup, and a dynamic scoring winger.

Toronto gains a D player for the playoffs, a G prospect, and a future D.



This is my 1st proposal. Go easy on me.
 

VinceHabs

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I wouldn't do it from a mtl point of view. At this point I'm not giving up any pics or prospects. Petry can be had for the right price though, but he's not the first guy I move out.

To MTL
Kapanen
Gauthier
Aaltonen
Pickard
3rd round pick in 2018
conditional 5th round pick in 2019

To TOR
Petry
Lindgren
Juulsen

Montreal strengthens their C position with prospects, gains a NHL ready backup, and a dynamic scoring winger.

Toronto gains a D player for the playoffs, a G prospect, and a future D.



This is my 1st proposal. Go easy on me.
 

Critical13

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The value isn't lopsided, I just have a hard time seeing Lou and Co dealing Kapanen to a rival. Despite his meagre production, I believe he's still slotted for a big role on this team in the coming 3 years. Petry would be an awesome add, though.
 

Stripper

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Kapanen and Gauthier for Petry would be a decent deal to work around... Always depends what Montreal could acquire else where and if they prefer near NHL ready prospects or picks.
 

Benstheman

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I like Kapanen but he isn't a piece that we need.

The other pieces do nothing for us. You get a top 3 D, our best G and D prospects.

All in all, that is really bad for Mtl.
 

Benstheman

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Kapanen and Gauthier for Petry would be a decent deal to work around... Always depends what Montreal could acquire else where and if they prefer near NHL ready prospects or picks.

Kapanen and 1st or Liljegren straight up for Petry.
 

ottomaddox

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Terrible for Montreal, I don't see a top 6 C or a top 4 d-man in that package you offered. Hopefully this is your last proposal.

Which NHL team is going to give you a top 6 C? Especially for what is going the other way? None of those MTL players command a top 6 C. Take those draft picks TOR is offering and take your best shot at drafting a C.

Hopefully that was your last post.
 

Benstheman

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Which NHL team is going to give you a top 6 C? Especially for what is going the other way? None of those MTL players command a top 6 C. Take those draft picks TOR is offering and take your best shot at drafting a C.

Hopefully that was your last post.

You mean the late 3rd and 5th round pick you generously proposed in your offer??
 

PKWeber

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Which NHL team is going to give you a top 6 C? Especially for what is going the other way? None of those MTL players command a top 6 C. Take those draft picks TOR is offering and take your best shot at drafting a C.

Hopefully that was your last post.

Habs are not trading a top 4 d-man, a prospect with top 4 potential and a goalie with the potential to be a starter for your absolute garbage proposal. Yeah I would want a top 6 C or a top 4 d-man in return, if you can't offer that look somewhere else.
 

ottomaddox

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How does this help Montreal? 2 guys who are at best 3rd centers, and another winger in Kapanen. Also, pretty sure the Leafs couldn't afford Petry's contract unless they give back Bozak or someone.

Does MTL have a top 9 C in their prospect pool. Take the quantity being offered: two C's and two chances to draft a C. Kapanen still helps your team (even if you don't see it).
 

Stripper

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Does MTL have a top 9 C in their prospect pool. Take the quantity being offered: two C's and two chances to draft a C. Kapanen still helps your team (even if you don't see it).
Other teams might offer something Montreal would need... so why should Montreal comply for something they don't need?
 

Benstheman

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Does MTL have a top 9 C in their prospect pool. Take the quantity being offered: two C's and two chances to draft a C. Kapanen still helps your team (even if you don't see it).

WE have Poehling and Ikonen we just drafted in 1st and 2 round in 2017. Nothing you offered is or will be better than those 2.
 

Liferleafer

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To MTL
Kapanen
Gauthier
Aaltonen
Pickard
3rd round pick in 2018
conditional 5th round pick in 2019

To TOR
Petry
Lindgren
Juulsen

Montreal strengthens their C position with prospects, gains a NHL ready backup, and a dynamic scoring winger.

Toronto gains a D player for the playoffs, a G prospect, and a future D.



This is my 1st proposal. Go easy on me.
Honestly, after Kapanen, those Leafs pieces aren't much. Lindgren to me isn't a target...goalie prosoects aren't worth much, but Petry and Juulsen do hold some solid value.
 

Benstheman

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Honestly, after Kapanen, those Leafs pieces aren't much. Lindgren to me isn't a target...goalie prosoects aren't worth much, but Petry and Juulsen do hold some solid value.

I agree about Lindgren. And If Petry goes, Juulsen is seen as a potential replacement for him, so doesn't make sense trading future with Petry when the objective is getting futures.
 
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HuGo Sham

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To MTL
Kapanen
Gauthier
Aaltonen
Pickard
3rd round pick in 2018
conditional 5th round pick in 2019

To TOR
Petry
Lindgren
Juulsen

Montreal strengthens their C position with prospects, gains a NHL ready backup, and a dynamic scoring winger.

Toronto gains a D player for the playoffs, a G prospect, and a future D.



This is my 1st proposal. Go easy on me.
this doesn't help montreal. And there's a long line of guys to go before juulsen and lindgren. Next!
 

HuGo Sham

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Please continue to forget....Liljgren is not available, he's our Sergachev.

perfect, so please continue to forget...lindgren and juulsen are not available. Come up with a package for Weber, but make it good. He might be available. Weber on the leafs makes you potential cup finalists
 

HuGo Sham

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Which NHL team is going to give you a top 6 C? Especially for what is going the other way? None of those MTL players command a top 6 C. Take those draft picks TOR is offering and take your best shot at drafting a C.

Hopefully that was your last post.

no one's giving us a top 6...but that is garbage offer for two of our best prospects. not interested. and it's laughable to suggest those picks find us a top 6 C..kadri and Matthews are both top 10 picks. notice a pattern?
 

ottomaddox

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Kapanen is a top 15 draft pick. Gauthier is a 1st rounder. Pickard is an upside player with draft pedigree.

Look no further than last night's loss vs snow angel Reimer to admit that MTL needs skill at wing in their top 6.
 

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