GDT: Trade Deadline Thread

Lunatik · Feb 24, 2017

Trading season has started. A number of smaller deals had been made before the Flames acquired Stone and Penguins Hainsey.

Lunatik · Feb 24, 2017

more trades

Lunatik · Feb 24, 2017

even more trades

InfinityIggy · Feb 24, 2017

I am going to make a guess that Bishop is moved to either Dallas or Calgary.

Flames Fanatic · Feb 24, 2017

I think Bob Mckenzie nailed it on the head. We are looking at all our options to upgrade goaltending, but the price has to be right.

To me that also says we'll be doing more of the same and will only stay with Elliot past this season if we don't like our other options out there.

Otzelor · Feb 24, 2017

InfinityIggy said:
I am going to make a guess that Bishop is moved to either Dallas or Calgary.

IÂ´ve seen this

Trade 4

To Calgary Flames = Ben Bishop (extension negotiated), Valtteri Filppula and Slater Koekkoek

To Tampa Bay Lightning = Dougie Hamilton, Brian Elliott, Oliver Kylington and Freddie Hamilton
Ben Bishop, Tampa Bay Lightning, NHL, Flames Targeting Ben Bishop

ANALYSIS: This one is, admittedly, straight out of NHL 17. No, not seriously, but it resembles something from a video game. A trade of this magnitude is rarer than a white buffalo. Nevertheless, once you get past the overwhelming unlikelihood, the deal could actually work out well for both teams. If the Lightning sell — and that’s still a big IF, in my opinion, with Steven Stamkos possibly returning for the stretch run and the playoffs within reach — then Bishop is their big fish as a pending free agent who has priced himself out of Tampa. To my knowledge, Calgary had a deal in place to acquire Bishop at the 2016 draft but it fell through based on Bishop’s contract demands at the time (supposedly seven years, $7 million per, $49 million total). That asking price has presumably come down, considering Bishop isn’t having a Vezina-worthy season and there aren’t many teams in the market for a high-priced starting goalie. Possibly Calgary, Dallas and then obviously Las Vegas if Bishop doesn’t move at the deadline. If Calgary could extend Bishop at a more reasonable rate — say, four years at $24 million ($6 million per) — the Flames could revisit that deal.

here: http://thehockeywriters.com/trade-d...al&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

IsnÂ´t that a gross overpayment? Goalies should be worth next to nothing. imo

InfinityIggy · Feb 24, 2017

Otzelor said:
IÂ´ve seen this

here: http://thehockeywriters.com/trade-d...al&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

IsnÂ´t that a gross overpayment? Goalies should be worth next to nothing. imo

Yeah, that'd be a terrible overpayment in my opinion. If a deal does happen for Bishop I would bet it revolves around our 1st.

Kahvi · Feb 24, 2017

No way I'd trade Hamilton for extended Bishop.

TB fans on HF seem to think Filppula as a cap dump, though it can be more about ED than his level of play.

Tkachuk Norris · Feb 24, 2017

None of our core will be moved. Especially for a goalie. That's insane how bad that deal was.

Flames Fanatic · Feb 24, 2017

That's a ****ing awful deal. Why would we move Dougie when we could just wait until July 1 for Bishop?

Calculon · Feb 24, 2017

That's ridiculously bad. Weird how underrated Hamilton has become since being traded out of Boston. From borderline franchise defenceman to an easily expendable piece despite posting career years offensively.

Maybe it's because Hamilton averages about a minute less than Wideman per game (19:39 vs 20:38) and four minutes less than Brodie and Giordano. Both Wideman and Hamilton average the same numbers of shifts (26.5) so maybe that extra minute is just how long it takes Wideman to get to the bench.

Also, likely due to his name always being in the rumor mill (thanks Chayka/Toronto)

Also from that website:

Trade 9
To Calgary Flames = Radim Vrbata and Nick Merkley

To Arizona Coyotes = Morgan Klimchuk, Tyler Wotherspoon, Mason McDonald and a 2017 third-round pick

I could live with this one. Basically upgrading Klimchuk to Merkley.

Trade 24
To Toronto Maple Leafs = Dennis Wideman

To Calgary Flames = Milan Michalek and Frank Corrado

This is acceptable.

Fig · Feb 24, 2017

- I really don't think we move our top 3 Dmen.
- The F Hamilton part with Dougie at least makes me think whoever dreamed it up tried to think of optics. But missed the idea that moving one of the top 3D is silly.
- I don't think the trade takes into account that by trading Elliott, Blues get our 3rd. I think Johnson moving in a goalie trade is more likely. Money is better for other team with Johnson if choosing a rental of the two anyways.
- We add another left handed C (riches we have) instead of RW
- We nab a LHD and trade a LHD (Koekkek for Kylington). I don't get the point, use a pick to fix value instead.

Yeah, no. Even the other pieces involved make no sense for us.

I don't mind trades 9 and 24 either. I've been mulling the idea of a quantity for quality trade lately. I think we have the room to move guys up after this season, but I also think we should consolidate the cupboards after the nice drafts we've had lately.

Anglesmith · Feb 24, 2017

Calculon said:
Maybe it's because Hamilton averages about a minute less than Wideman per game (19:39 vs 20:38) and four minutes less than Brodie and Giordano. Both Wideman and Hamilton average the same numbers of shifts (26.5) so maybe that extra minute is just how long it takes Wideman to get to the bench. .

Better safe than sorry.

Ace Rimmer · Feb 24, 2017

Otzelor said:
IÂ´ve seen this

here: http://thehockeywriters.com/trade-d...al&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

IsnÂ´t that a gross overpayment? Goalies should be worth next to nothing. imo

Overpayment is an understatement.

Oh and trading Kylington?

Flames Fanatic · Feb 24, 2017

Ace Rimmer said:
Overpayment is an understatement.

Oh and trading Kylington?

OvermanKingGainer · Feb 24, 2017

The sheer badness of pretty much of every Flames-related trade rumour assures me that Calgary is the Arizona/Carolina of Canadian teams. :laugh:

You would think we were in 30th place with the indiscriminate selling of future superstars the media has us taking part in.

Flames Fanatic · Feb 24, 2017

Eaves to Anaheim for a conditional 2nd that becomes a 1st if they reach the WCF and he plays 50% of the games.

Not gonna be any trades left for deadline day.

MonyontheMoney · Feb 24, 2017

I'm gonna say BT makes 3 deals between now and the deadline.

Flames Fanatic · Feb 24, 2017

MonyontheMoney said:
I'm gonna say BT makes 3 deals between now and the deadline.

1. Goalie
2. RW
3. Moving Wideman?

MonyontheMoney · Feb 24, 2017

Flames Fanatic said:
1. Goalie
2. RW
3. Moving Wideman?

I honestly didn't really think it through before I posted.

1. Moving Wideman
2. Froward with grit
3. Goalie/minor deal

I guess is what I'll go with.

WeegarUnderwood · Feb 24, 2017

Flames Fanatic said:
Eaves to Anaheim for a conditional 2nd that becomes a 1st if they reach the WCF and he plays 50% of the games.

Not gonna be any trades left for deadline day.

Haha same conditions as Russell trade. Solid deal for both teams imo

Kranix · Feb 24, 2017

I think aside from some minor depth deal Brad doesn't do much. Elliot is the #1 for the rest of the year.

Flames Fanatic · Feb 24, 2017

Jurco to the Hawks for a 3rd.

BigRangy · Feb 24, 2017

Flames Fanatic said:
Jurco to the Hawks for a 3rd.

Jeez at that price I wonder what Versteeg could fetch.

WeegarUnderwood · Feb 24, 2017

Oooh the trades are getting going. I am excited

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