Confirmed Signing with Link: [TOR] Leafs extend Kerfoot (4 years, $3.5M AAV)

[Kamiccolo]

Leafs have a little over 8M in cap space, and if he got offersheeted (which won't happen as it would have already) they also have 10% they can go up in the offseason to match. And all signs are pointing to a 3 year bridge deal.

I just can't believe people think Dubas signed these deals and forgot he still had Marner to sign lol. Do people think the Leafs FO is that incompetent?

 

[TheGroceryStick]

with what money?

The shitload of cap space we still have.
Open your eyes.

 

[X66]

Kadri is obviously better than Kerfoot, no argument there.

But Kerfoot is also better than him defensively, something that will help the Leafs a ton.

He fits better into the 3rd spot than Kadri as well, because Kadri is used to being a #2.

 

[hamzarocks]

I cant understand how anyone could look at the deal, look at kerfoots comparables, and understand the leafs didnt have a 3rs line center caliber of player in the farm and say this deal sucks

 

[Kamiccolo]

I'd say the bigger problem here is the term, more so than the AAV. Not the end of the world by any means though.

Well he is 24. It locks him up through his prime for 500k more than his projection in arbitration for 1 year. It's a good deal IMO.

 

[TheDoldrums]

Kadri was making 4.5 for 3 more years. He was traded in part for cap savings.

Uh, no? Kerfoot and Barrie will make more than him. They traded him because the downgrade of Kadri to Kerfoot is easily worth Tyson Barrie.

 

[Liferleafer]

Well he just isn't a solid defensive forward. Atleast he hasn't been for the Avs.

This is a major gamble by Dubas. Could pay off for him if Kerfoot has another gear that he will find with the Leafs that he did not yet with the Avs.
But if he doesn't, that deal could look pretty bad pretty soon and only make their cap crunch even worse down the line.

You can say many things about Dubas. But he certainly is showing balls this offseason. I am just mad that he did not do the same with the Matthews contract. Why 5 years at that AAV so easily?

Simple. Because long term would have been a higher AAV which clearlt does not fit under our cap structure.

 

[TheDoldrums]

So the Leafs pay something close to what he would've got in arbitration but lock him up for his prime and some people think this is bad? lol

 

[Kamiccolo]

Kadri was making 4.5 for 3 more years. He was traded in part for cap savings. This contract defeats that purpose when Dubas signs Kerfoot at 3,5 x 4? 1M savings for a lesser Center, again on the smallish again side locked into a 4 year contract. I would not like it. Ouch. Leafs lose grit and a better center, and sign one that is only 1M less a cap hit. Not a good move.

Kadri wasn't trade for cap savings lol. That was Marleau, Zaitsev, and Brown. Kadri was traded for Barrie.

Although not surprising you say the Leafs should move money from F to D for years and then when it happens flip flop on your stance.

 

[Cap'n Flavour]

Kadri was traded for cap savings?

Lol.

Yeah, nothing but cap savings and a throw-in top pair RHD for a 2.75M cap hit next season. LoL!

 

[Ziggdiezan]

Kadri was making 4.5 for 3 more years. He was traded in part for cap savings. This contract defeats that purpose when Dubas signs Kerfoot at 3,5 x 4? 1M savings for a lesser Center, again on the smallish again side locked into a 4 year contract. I would not like it. Ouch. Leafs lose grit and a better center, and sign one that is only 1M less a cap hit. Not a good move.

I'm just glad the Avs were nice enough to chuck in a top pairing RD too while the leafs were dumping Kadri.....

 

[unicornpig]

Dubai’s must be confident he can get marner at 8-9 million range

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Avs fans going to come in here and down play him, but they should be quickly ignored.

He's been a solid player, and just a team whipping boy.



^Obviously context is important, but those are solid numbers for a solid defensive forward.

Yes... ignore the opinions of the people who have watched the guy play all 157 games so far. You post stats because I can guarantee you haven't seen even 10 of Kerfoots games, exactly why analytics are so completely useless without watching the games.


It will just make for some hilarious bumps in a year from now.

 

[Ziggdiezan]

I'd say the bigger problem here is the term, more so than the AAV. Not the end of the world by any means though.

Why is the term a problem?. Locks him up 24-28, prime years and should be a pretty damn easy contract to move if it doesnt work out.

 

[BlueBaron]

now we offer sheet Marner


yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet

We like sad, desperate Habs fans. Keep hoping.
We only have 9 mil for Mitch. You guys going to do us a solid and offer him 8 years at 6 mil?

 

[Artorius Horus T]

Good contract for a good player.

 

[nturn06]

Depth extended. Let's get on with Marner now.

Interesting way to set priorities.

 

[RationalExpectations]

Dubas making the right deals to improve the leafs, the depth is getting more and more impressive.

 

[firstemperor]

Great deal

 

[The Winter Soldier]

Well he just isn't a solid defensive forward. Atleast he hasn't been for the Avs.

This is a major gamble by Dubas. Could pay off for him if Kerfoot has another gear that he will find with the Leafs that he did not yet with the Avs.
But if he doesn't, that deal could look pretty bad pretty soon and only make their cap crunch even worse down the line.

You can say many things about Dubas. But he certainly is showing balls this offseason. I am just mad that he did not do the same with the Matthews contract. Why 5 years at that AAV so easily?

Also a lot of Kerfoot's production comes on the PP. He will need to show another gear 5 v 5 to make this contract good.

 

[Kamiccolo]

Well he just isn't a solid defensive forward. Atleast he hasn't been for the Avs.

This is a major gamble by Dubas. Could pay off for him if Kerfoot has another gear that he will find with the Leafs that he did not yet with the Avs.
But if he doesn't, that deal could look pretty bad pretty soon and only make their cap crunch even worse down the line.

You can say many things about Dubas. But he certainly is showing balls this offseason. I am just mad that he did not do the same with the Matthews contract. Why 5 years at that AAV so easily?

Dubas is a rookie GM. He can't be expected to be perfect and he will make mistakes. The thing is, he is learning from these mistakes and getting better as it goes on.

And his mistakes are still no where near as bad as several vet GM's such as Fenton, Lamoriello, Rutherford, Benning, Holland, etc

 

[Albi34]

Kadri was making 4.5 for 3 more years. He was traded in part for cap savings. This contract defeats that purpose when Dubas signs Kerfoot at 3,5 x 4? 1M savings for a lesser Center, again on the smallish again side locked into a 4 year contract. I would not like it. Ouch. Leafs lose grit and a better center, and sign one that is only 1M less a cap hit. Not a good move.

What's not to like about upgrading the right D massively at the cost of a slight downgrade but cheaper third line C?

 

[4thline]

Kadri was traded for cap savings?

Lol.

Barrie's nick name. Weird locker room dynamic in Denver.

 

[JoemAvs]

Simple. Because long term would have been a higher AAV which clearlt does not fit under our cap structure.

Yeah I disagree with that. Matthews is not worth 13M on a longterm deal when half of it is RFA years. And Dubas should have atleast put up a bit of a fight.
IMO Matthews got exactly the AAV he should have gotten for a 7 year deal given his comparables. IMO Dubas screwed up here and he and all the other GMs with high profile RFAs are paying for it right now...

 

[Shakey Rustie]

Reasonable contract.