Confirmed Signing with Link: [TOR] F Ryan Reaves to sign with the Maple Leafs (3 years, $1.35M AAV)

[jackjohnson]

At the end of the day the contract is fine because the organization has money coming out of farts. The problem comes with how much appreciate do you have for the player that blinds you from making roster management decisions. This won't be a cap nightmare but you gotta bit the bullet and inform the player he just can't cut it on the roster.

That's a waste of cap space for a player that won't play much especially in playoffs. When you have a cap, you should try to do smart signings and use the cap wisely otherwise you can't win the cup. Cap mismanagement is the number one reason why a team misses the playoffs or exits in the 1st round. Depth is something any cup contender should have in spades.

 

[ACC1224]

He is a real factor in Canucks games. At least way more useful than Reaves imo


Yeah but if you hadn't gotten Reaves you would be able to retain Lafferty which is way more useful than Reaves. I guess Trev is destroying the Leafs similar to how he destroyed the Flames.

Yes like all teams if they hadn't gotten some new players they could have kept some other players.

Lafferty and Reaves aren't comparable in any sense, one isn't more 'useful' than the other. Lafferty and Reaves were both on the team until the decision was made to sign Gregor. It was never Reaves in, Lafferty out.

 

[jackjohnson]

Yes like all teams if they hadn't gotten some new players they could have kept some other players.

Lafferty and Reaves aren't comparable in any sense, one isn't more 'useful' than the other. Lafferty and Reaves were both on the team until the decision was made to sign Gregor. It was never Reaves in, Lafferty out.

What do you mean it was never Reaves in and Lafferty out? Fact is once they signed Reaves they needed to move out a 3rd or 4th liner so it was actually Reaves in and Lafferty out due to cap reasons. It's just that simple and it is not because Lafferty is a non factor either. He is playing great for the Canucks and already has couple of goals to boot along with good forechecking and backchecking. He has also made the Canucks faster too.

 

[Poppy Whoa Sonnet]

At the end of the day the contract is fine because the organization has money coming out of farts. The problem comes with how much appreciate do you have for the player that blinds you from making roster management decisions. This won't be a cap nightmare but you gotta bit the bullet and inform the player he just can't cut it on the roster.

It's only "fine" if they are willing to waive him and send him to the AHL. If they are not, then they have him eating minutes in the NHL and that's a terrible decision that hurts their chances of winning games, even if the team is good enough that the regular season is basically the preseason for them, they don't want a matchup with someone like Tampa again in round 1.

 

[ACC1224]

What do you mean it was never Reaves in and Lafferty out? Fact is once they signed Reaves they needed to move out a 3rd or 4th liner so it was actually Reaves in and Lafferty out due to cap reasons. It's just that simple and it is not because Lafferty is a non factor either. He is playing great for the Canucks and already has couple of goals to boot along with good forechecking and backchecking. He has also made the Canucks faster too.

As said, they moved Lafferty to sign Gregor, Reaves replaced Simmonds.
If you followed the Leafs you would know this.

At the end of the day, they are all plugs and have very little to do with the success or failings of a team.

 

[jackjohnson]

It's only "fine" if they are willing to waive him and send him to the AHL. If they are not, then they have him eating minutes in the NHL and that's a terrible decision that hurts their chances of winning games, even if the team is good enough that the regular season is basically the preseason for them, they don't want a matchup with someone like Tampa again in round 1.

Also the fact that they wasted valuable cap space for a non factor like Reaves when they could have used that cap space more efficiently for a good 3rd or 4th line player that can provide some offense and PK along with some energy. This is the difference between cup winners like Vegas and teams like Leafs. Vegas knows the value of cap space.

 

[jackjohnson]

As said, they moved Lafferty to sign Gregor, Reaves replaced Simmonds.
If you followed the Leafs you would know this.

At the end of the day, they are all plugs and have very little to do with the success or failings of a team.

I think that logic is flawed, you need good depth players to win a cup. This is why Leafs will never win a cup since they don't care about their bottom 6 or depth defensemen. Also I don't see the reason why they needed to replace one useless goon for another useless goon like Reaves. It's not a requirement to have a goon your roster nowadays but your GM still living in the past. They should have kept both Lafferty and Gregor. Having a goon on your team is useless in today's game imo.

 

[TGWL]

It's only "fine" if they are willing to waive him and send him to the AHL. If they are not, then they have him eating minutes in the NHL and that's a terrible decision that hurts their chances of winning games, even if the team is good enough that the regular season is basically the preseason for them, they don't want a matchup with someone like Tampa again in round 1.

Yeah that's what I was alluding to in the post. It's only a problem if you can't get past the appreciation for the player to make the smart decision.

 

[serp]

Still can't get over the fact that aparently there was some kind of bidding war to sign Ryan Reaves in the first place that the Leafs "won" . The hell is wrong with some GM's man

 

[TheDoldrums]

Treliving can't destroy Toronto like he did Calgary unless he loses Nylander, just too much talent in their primes to not be a playoff team. But he's clearly a moron, this signing and the wreckage he left behind in Calgary make that pretty clear.

This is on Leafs ownership for giving the franchise to their buddy's kid tho, after he left his last franchise with literally the most hopeless future in the league.

 

[Stephen]

I was definitely envisioning a schoolyard bully type presence when the Leafs acquired Reaves but he turned out to be more of a class clown who’s just keeping the popular kids entertained. To say he hasn’t done his job would be an understatement. Feels like he’s going to disappear into the wallpaper as a player and be ineffective and just try to build up his persona off the ice to launch a post playing career media personality.

 

[Stephen]

Treliving can't destroy Toronto like he did Calgary unless he loses Nylander, just too much talent in their primes to not be a playoff team. But he's clearly a moron, this signing and the wreckage he left behind in Calgary make that pretty clear.

This is on Leafs ownership for giving the franchise to their buddy's kid tho, after he left his last franchise with literally the most hopeless future in the league.

I don’t think Treliving was the issue in Calgary. Hearing the higher ups talk during the losing streak you’d think the oxygen gets pretty thin at the top of that organization.

 

[Recipe Unlimited]

As said, they moved Lafferty to sign Gregor, Reaves replaced Simmonds.
If you followed the Leafs you would know this.

At the end of the day, they are all plugs and have very little to do with the success or failings of a team.

That's not really true, they traded Lafferty to make room for Minten, but your point is pedantic regardless though. I think most would agree that Lafferty (and Gregor) would both be on the Leafs roster right now if the Leafs didn't sign Reaves or a comparable contract player.

 

[Leaf Fans]

And they got rid of Lafferty for this guy

No, they didn’t. Lafferty got beat for his spot by Gregor.

 

[Leaf Fans]

What do you mean it was never Reaves in and Lafferty out? Fact is once they signed Reaves they needed to move out a 3rd or 4th liner so it was actually Reaves in and Lafferty out due to cap reasons. It's just that simple and it is not because Lafferty is a non factor either. He is playing great for the Canucks and already has couple of goals to boot along with good forechecking and backchecking. He has also made the Canucks faster too.

What is meant is that is when the the Leafs signed Gregor to a PTO and he won the job, Lafferty got moved. I am happy he is doing well. Vancouver jumped the waive que by trading a 5th for him. Vancouver fans are happy with him.

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

I was definitely envisioning a schoolyard bully type presence when the Leafs acquired Reaves but he turned out to be more of a class clown who’s just keeping the popular kids entertained. To say he hasn’t done his job would be an understatement. Feels like he’s going to disappear into the wallpaper as a player and be ineffective and just try to build up his persona off the ice to launch a post playing career media personality.

Reaves should hire you as his life coach, spot on

 

[jackjohnson]

No, they didn’t. Lafferty got beat for his spot by Gregor.

So what if Lafferty got beat by Gregor for his spot? then he should have taken Reaves or Simmonds spot since he is better than both of them combined. Its about making the best team possible. Reaves is more inferior than Lafferty and he has a spot on the regular lineup which makes no sense if you are a cup contending team. Unless you believe Reaves is needed for his fights and clown acts lol

 

[jackjohnson]

Treliving can't destroy Toronto like he did Calgary unless he loses Nylander, just too much talent in their primes to not be a playoff team. But he's clearly a moron, this signing and the wreckage he left behind in Calgary make that pretty clear.

This is on Leafs ownership for giving the franchise to their buddy's kid tho, after he left his last franchise with literally the most hopeless future in the league.

oh yes he can destroy leafs like the Flames.
Example #1: signing a useless players like Reaves
Example#2: Signing a defensive liability in Klingberg
Example#3: letting a player like Lafferty go for cheap after Leafs spent higher assets to get him

Trev is like a more smarter Benning imo, dont be fooled.

 

[Leaf Fans]

So what if Lafferty got beat by Gregor for his spot? then he should have taken Reaves or Simmonds spot since he is better than both of them combined. Its about making the best team possible. Reaves is more inferior than Lafferty and he has a spot on the regular lineup which makes no sense if you are a cup contending team. Unless you believe Reaves is needed for his fights and clown acts lol

Reeves is a guy the team wanted to bring in believing that his personality off ice and his toughness on ice would help the team . Gregor is the guy the team brought to compete with Lafferty. Gregor won out if only because he can do the same thing for cheaper.

 

[Martin Skoula]

Reeves is a guy the team wanted to bring in believing that his personality off ice and his toughness on ice would help the team . Gregor is the guy the team brought to compete with Lafferty. Gregor won out if only because he can do the same thing for cheaper.

You know I’ve heard “she has a nice personality” about a lot of people, but this is the first time I’ve heard it to justify setting 1.5 mil on fire.

 

[Leaf Fans]

You know I’ve heard “she has a nice personality” about a lot of people, but this is the first time I’ve heard it to justify setting 1.5 mil on fire.

You have? Who did you hear that from? Off topic, but ok.

 

[notbias]

Reeves is a guy the team wanted to bring in believing that his personality off ice and his toughness on ice would help the team . Gregor is the guy the team brought to compete with Lafferty. Gregor won out if only because he can do the same thing for cheaper.

Lafferty is better though and the difference is 300k.

The 300k doesn't help in any way.

A 4th line of Gregor - Kampf - Lafferty would have been nice though.

 

[Leaf Fans]

Lafferty is better though and the difference is 300k.

The 300k doesn't help in any way.

A 4th line of Gregor - Kampf - Lafferty would have been nice though.

Maybe he is better, but he lost his job in Toronto to Gregor.

 

[Sergei Shirokov]

I somehow had no idea Reaves got a 3 year deal until now.

Wow. That's incredible.

 

[cyris]

Lafferty is better though and the difference is 300k.

The 300k doesn't help in any way.

A 4th line of Gregor - Kampf - Lafferty would have been nice though.

That 300k has helped. It allows us to carry an extra player on the roster. We had McCabe hurt but not hurt enough to go on LTIR.
Because of that 300K we were able to dress a full lineup while he was out.