Confirmed Trade: [TOR/CBJ/SJS] N. Foligno (75% retained), S. Noesen to TOR; '21 1st and '22 4th to CBJ; '21 4th to SJ

[Leaf Fans]

And yet Columbus is trying to trade him...

That could be the reason.

 

[57special]

I don’t see Minnesota winning a playoff series against Vegas or Colorado JMO.

MN is 4-1-1 against VGK this year. 10-2-2 alltime.

I don't see Foligno being what MN is looking for, and Guerin sure as hell better not pay a 1st for him.

 

[Fisticuffer]

Man, CLB trying to load up on 1sts in a year that you really don't want to be loaded on 1sts.

I mean, it's never a bad thing, but this is the last year you'd want it.

Any year is a good year for a middling team to beef up the prospect pool.

 

[violaswallet]

Man, CLB trying to load up on 1sts in a year that you really don't want to be loaded on 1sts.

I mean, it's never a bad thing, but this is the last year you'd want it.

Not necessarily: this might be a good year for late firsts

Covid was a common development shock for young players: many players lost a year of development so will filter into future years in mean ability. It’s more difficult to forecast I guess but that probably means probability of a top ten talent this year at pick thirty is higher than other years

 

[WingsMJN2965]

Not necessarily: this might be a good year for late firsts

Covid was a common development shock for young players: many players lost a year of development so will filter into future years in mean ability. It’s more difficult to forecast I guess but that probably means probability of a top ten talent this year at pick thirty is higher than other years

You're correct on the lost development in future years, but the issue here that wont be there in future years is you don't get to evaluate a lot of these guys as much as you should.

 

[jaric1862]

Don't see a 1st. I could see a 2nd and 3rd

 

[Pi]

WTF has Foligno done to get a 1st in return. Jarmo is a wizard if he pulls that off.

 

[violaswallet]

You're correct on the lost development in future years, but the issue here that wont be there in future years is you don't get to evaluate a lot of these guys as much as you should.

Oh definitely: I agree it will be easier to draft next year but not obvious if talent pool is better given Covid

I’m not sure when it’s worst to partially play: I’m probably more concerned with the sixteen year old than the eighteen year old frankly

 

[AveryStar4Eva]

I said a while back that some teams may not value 1st rounders that much this season due to lack of scouting. If you deal a late first and say Columbus sends back their 3rd might be worth the risk in such a crapshoot year

 

[16thOverallSaveUs]

We have absolutely no money so Indont see how this works.

 

[Bazeek]

The "someone he can sign this summer" bit has me somewhere between snickering and rolling my eyes.

I think it was a more general statement about the chances of Guerin spending big on a rental.

 

[KaprizovEntitlelist]

I said a while back that some teams may not value 1st rounders that much this season due to lack of scouting. If you deal a late first and say Columbus sends back their 3rd might be worth the risk in such a crapshoot year

Which won't be wild

 

[canuckking1]

Man, CLB trying to load up on 1sts in a year that you really don't want to be loaded on 1sts.

I mean, it's never a bad thing, but this is the last year you'd want it.

CLB's GM is literally known for his drafting. He likely has confidence in his ability to unearth gems in the mid-first round.

 

[MarkusNaslund19]

Man, CLB trying to load up on 1sts in a year that you really don't want to be loaded on 1sts.

I mean, it's never a bad thing, but this is the last year you'd want it.

Firmly disagree.

The whole 'this draft sucks' narrative is based on conclusions primarily drawn from the first half of the prospects' draft minus 2 seasons. There are various stories of the past of prospects coming out of nowhere in the 2nd half of their D-1 seasons to cement themselves as top prospects. It's a very volatile age.

I think this is a good year to have more bullets in your chamber, not less. Someone may well get a superstar at 24th overall just due to the lack of scouting opportunities.

 

[kfan22]

We have absolutely no money so Indont see how this works.

Didnt look at Foligno Salary but Russo said Wild can add a 4 million dollar player at deadline

 

[57special]

We have absolutely no money so Indont see how this works.

Rask trade incoming?

 

[Revelation]

Man, CLB trying to load up on 1sts in a year that you really don't want to be loaded on 1sts.

I mean, it's never a bad thing, but this is the last year you'd want it.

That's what they said about 2014

 

[Revelation]

Why does the Wild want Foligno? They need C with top 6 skill not another Bjugstad/Bonino/EK/Rask plumber to be carried by Kaprizov or Fiala. Domi would make more sense for them.

 

[lawrence]

trust me on this, these leader ship type of player can make a huge difference. Of course the GM's also have to caution on wether they want to give up that much, but these guys are needed for a good run.

 

[AKL]

trust me on this, these leader ship type of player can make a huge difference. Of course the GM's also have to caution on wether they want to give up that much, but these guys are needed for a good run.

Leadership type players haven't made any difference for Minnesota at any point in the last decade.

 

[KaprizovEntitlelist]

Why does the Wild want Foligno? They need C with top 6 skill not another Bjugstad/Bonino/EK/Rask plumber to be carried by Kaprizov or Fiala. Domi would make more sense for them.

Domi sucks. His character is why Guerin, & wild wouldn't want him

His antics wouldn't fly on the wild.

 

[Revelation]

Domi sucks. His character is why Guerin, & wild wouldn't want him

His antics wouldn't fly on the wild.

What antics?

 

[WingsMJN2965]

That's what they said about 2014

2014 had a pandemic that prevented scouts from actually getting to evaluate a good portion of the talent?

 

[Bertuzzipunch]

1st rounder for foligno, yeah id be passing on that.

 

[Killer Orcas]

I'm assuming that just an ask the actual return would never be that high my guess.