Proposal: TOR/CAR - Nylander - Hanifin

[WTFMAN99]

Something I asked about last season. I wanted to see where fan bases were this year.

Nylander has gotten 1 game in at centre this year and had great possession along with getting an assist in a 1-0 win.

Is this a straight up trade? Does Carolina add? Do the Leafs add?

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[rent free]

leafs say no. they need nylander.

 

[shortfuze]

leafs say no. they need nylander.

They also need solid defenders

 

[rent free]

They also need solid defenders

defensive defenders. also wouldn't hurt for the forwards to be decent and defense

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

From a Carolina perspective, it’s totally dependent on Nylander’s potential to play center fulltime long-term. The Canes can’t afford to trade a player who has been the sole offensive threat on a defensively oriented blueline for a winger.

 

[RodTheBawd]

From a Carolina perspective, it’s totally dependent on Nylander’s potential to play center fulltime long-term.

What do you mean? OP already proved the case for Nylander being a fulltime long-term center:

Nylander has gotten 1 game in at centre this year and had great possession along with getting an assist in a 1-0 win.

 

[WTFMAN99]

From a Carolina perspective, it’s totally dependent on Nylander’s potential to play center fulltime long-term. The Canes can’t afford to trade a player who has been the sole offensive threat on a defensively oriented blueline for a winger.

For what it's worth, I think he can do it. He had great numbers in the AHL playing centre.

He started out real slow on his first call up but then did really well at the end when he got to play centre, total of 13 pts in 22GP, this year 1GP 1 pt. His face off numbers are pretty good as well. Babcock and him just don't seem to gel together and I know Babcock wanted Hanifin which is where this spawns from.

Given Carolina's system, I could see Nylander thriving, which would suck for us but we need defensive help too. Give to get right?

 

[The Winter Soldier]

With how Hanifin is starting to look. No chance Francis makes a deal for a winger who has never proven he could play Center in the NHL with Skinner, Aho, Teravainen, already on the NHL roster doing well with Gauthier as a recent pick doing well in the AHL. Leafs obviously would love to do this deal. Canes would say no or more needs to be added.

 

[garyturner3]

Value is obviously there. I'm torn on this one, but I think I'd do it. Personally, I'd much rather give up Nylander for Hanifin than Marner.

 

[JCLA]

Leafs don't add, canes may add but it's not a big add. I don't think I would add.

But it'd all be contingent on if Nylander can actually play center.

I don't think the Leafs should move Nylander if he can play center though. You could possibly be looking at the next Crosby-Malkin

 

[bluedevil58]

This is a close to fair trade assuming 2 things.

Nylander can play center

Nylander can score as many points without Auston

 

[WTFMAN99]

This is a close to fair trade assuming 2 things.

Nylander can play center

Nylander can score as many points without Auston

I'd be curious to see how Nylander does in Carolina. Hard to make a condition in the trade on Nylander playing centre and if he doesn't Carolina gets X.

I do find it interesting though, Kadri was never ever going to get to play centre under Wilson but he did under Carlyle and did well, and is thriving with Babcock.

I know Z and Filp out of Detroit have played LW/C and Nylander is mostly being used at wing but would someone else be happy with Nylander at C right now? Like I said, my 2 cents is I think Nylander can play centre just fine, maybe some rush but I think he'd have success but i'm not a pro scout so my opinion isn't even worth the 2 cents

 

[Kiwi]

So sell Nylander because Babcock wants to be a complete ****?

I'd sack Babcock first personally

 

[Jozay]

Yeah, id get babcock tf out of here before Nylander.

Unless Nylander wants too much or wants out, I dont wanna trade him.

 

[Brock Radunske]

Left
Handed
Defenseman

How hard is that?
It's not like adding a lhd like OEL, who would be our best defenseman.

Just an all-round poor proposal.

 

[BlueBaron]

Next we'll do Hanifin Marner, and then back to Nylander and on and on. Just never gets old.

 

[Mickey Marner]

I would prefer Pesce.

 

[Drew311]

Rielly, Hanifin and Liljegren is pretty tempting. Watching those three wheel around the ice would be great. Doubt either team would do this deal though.

 

[WTFMAN99]

So sell Nylander because Babcock wants to be a complete ****?

I'd sack Babcock first personally

Yeah, id get babcock tf out of here before Nylander.

Unless Nylander wants too much or wants out, I dont wanna trade him.

I don't think anyone on this roster can get Babcock out with the exception of Matthews

Left
Handed
Defenseman

How hard is that?
It's not like adding a lhd like OEL, who would be our best defenseman.

Just an all-round poor proposal.

Top pairing (potential)....we have tons of those types of defenseman kicking around!

 

[dogbazinho]

I would prefer Pesce.

Carolina fan here and I agree.

 

[Advanced stats]

They also need solid defenders

Their names are Dermott and Liljeren and you'll be hearing a lot more about them soon. The leafs don't need to make a big trade for a young defenseman.

And if they did it's not for a LHD.

 

[Haatley]

Toronto adds significantly.

 

[Brock Radunske]

Toronto adds significantly.

It's true. You'd know better than anyone how expensive dmen are since your team has 4 #1 dmen with 2 in the minors with number 1 upside.
What a juggernaut defence.

 

[Barilko14]

Plenty of young offensive players get shifted around the lineup depending on their performance.

I think this Babcock or Nylander has to go talk is very premature.

 

[Mats13]

This is a close to fair trade assuming 2 things.

Nylander can play center

Nylander can score as many points without Auston

He can do both.

For all the points Matthews helps him add, Hyman takes away

He's also produced well on other lines, including limited minutes playing with Martin and Moore.

As for him being a C. The plan is he'll transition to a full time C next season when we lose Bozak and we'll run Matthews-Kadri-Nylander down the middle.

As for the trade, we're not trading Nylander. Babcock doesn't hate him, he's made it clear Nylander is part of the future (Babs is just stubborn with lines sometimes).