Prospect Info: The Prospect Thread (Part XXXIV)

[BenningHurtsMySoul]

Juolevi's lack of progress is frustrating.

 

[M2Beezy]

Juolevi's lack of progress is frustrating.

Disaster pick

 

[jigsaw99]

Disaster pick

brutal. how can the organization f*** up a top 10 pick so much?

 

[Motte and Bailey]

brutal. how can the organization **** up a top 10 pick so much?

No team will hit homeruns with all their top picks. The good thing is the more top picks we waste the more we get in the future thanks to the NHL system that rewards losing. In a way it's better for the rebuild that we missed the good players early so we can continue to accumulate more talent through more high picks.

 

[BassMason]

No team will hit homeruns with all their top picks. The good thing is the more top picks we waste the more we get in the future thanks to the NHL system that rewards losing. In a way it's better for the rebuild that we missed the good players early so we can continue to accumulate more talent through more high picks.

Um no. It's better to hit on your top ten picks so the team can actually start to get good again before we all die. "Lets just keep sucking and getting terrible players because science".

 

[Southern_Canuck]

Tue Oct 17

Europe

TPS 2 Assat 3 (SO)
Palmu 0 points
Juolevi 0 points

WHL

Kelowna 1 Tri-City 2
Lind 1 assist, even

S_C

 

[M2Beezy]

Lind just keeps on producing well Juolevi keeps on sucking. Such frustration well watching Tkachuck tear up the NHL

 

[JanBulisPiggyBack]

Lind just keeps on producing well Juolevi keeps on sucking. Such frustration well watching Tkachuck tear up the NHL

Yay hopefully juolevi can mature, I didn't like the pick because I was so heavily in favour of tkachuck, my only optimism came from Bob McKenzie's opinion of him which created a silver lining from what was an enormously disappointing draft at the top end including getting the first of two lottery shafts

We stink at the 1st round so much
- homeruns like Cody Hodgson end up like crap
-bourdon we will never know RIP
-RJ Umburger trade demand
-Grabner becoming a good player after being given away
-Patrick freakin White
-Virtanen is coming around but the next two picked are already game changers in the NHL now
-Kesler came from a draft where everybody struck gold except New York
Lordy lord

 

[CanaFan]

No team will hit homeruns with all their top picks. The good thing is the more top picks we waste the more we get in the future thanks to the NHL system that rewards losing. In a way it's better for the rebuild that we missed the good players early so we can continue to accumulate more talent through more high picks.

Haha, my kid used to say this when he was 5 or 6. Would tell me it’s ok if Virtanen wasn’t any good because it would help us get another high pick next year.

Are you 5 or 6 as well?

 

[M2Beezy]

Haha, my kid used to say this when he was 5 or 6. Would tell me it’s ok if Virtanen wasn’t any good because it would help us get another high pick next year.

Are you 5 or 6 as well?

Haha yeah if we keep screwing up high picks we can keep getting high picks every year!!! Win - win!!!!

 

[Pastor Of Muppetz]

Yay hopefully juolevi can mature, I didn't like the pick because I was so heavily in favour of tkachuck, my only optimism came from Bob McKenzie's opinion of him which created a silver lining from what was an enormously disappointing draft at the top end including getting the first of two lottery shafts

We stink at the 1st round so much
- homeruns like Cody Hodgson end up like crap
-bourdon we will never know RIP
-RJ Umburger trade demand
-Grabner becoming a good player after being given away
-Patrick freakin White
-Virtanen is coming around but the next two picked are already game changers in the NHL now
-Kesler came from a draft where everybody struck gold except New York
Lordy lord

One of them is....

 

[Motte and Bailey]

Haha, my kid used to say this when he was 5 or 6. Would tell me it’s ok if Virtanen wasn’t any good because it would help us get another high pick next year.

Are you 5 or 6 as well?

That's really smart for 5-6. Are you sure the kid is yours?

 

[CanaFan]

That's really smart for 5-6. Are you sure the kid is yours?

No worries, once he turned 7 he told me that Benning is a “big smelly dumb face”. Definitely my kid.

 

[Southern_Canuck]

Wed Oct 18

Europe

Timra 3 Leksands 4 (OT)
Dahlen 0 points

(I noticed Alex Friesen is apparently playing for Leksands)

OHL

Sault Ste. Marie 2 Sudbury 4
Candella 1 goal (2nd), +1

S_C

 

[Josepho]

Candella quietly having a decent bounceback start after an atrocious previous year.

 

[Diamonddog01]

brutal. how can the organization **** up a top 10 pick so much?

Yes, the top 10 pick failures over the past few years are extremely disappointing. To me that is the main issue with this regime, much more so than 'asset management', which gets vastly overrated around here.

Virtanen over Ehlers / Nylander
Juolevi over Tkachuk (to be fair I didn't mind this pick, but consensus was most definitely Tkachuk)

On the flip side Boeser and Petterson appear to be both excellent picks, ironically the team f***ed up the easy slam dunk picks in 2014 and 2016 while doing well with what may be considered more challenging picks (in terms of options) in 2015 and 2017. And have to give credit for the later round picks, the team has not had any success with later round draft picks in a very long time.

But missing out on two first line players as a rebuilding team is absolutely devastating.

 

[NuxFan09]

Pettersson scored his first goal of the season today. 1 period still to go.

 

[Shareefruck]

No team will hit homeruns with all their top picks. The good thing is the more top picks we waste the more we get in the future thanks to the NHL system that rewards losing. In a way it's better for the rebuild that we missed the good players early so we can continue to accumulate more talent through more high picks.

This is crazy logic.

 

[denkiteki]

Yes, the top 10 pick failures over the past few years are extremely disappointing. To me that is the main issue with this regime, much more so than 'asset management', which gets vastly overrated around here.

Virtanen over Ehlers / Nylander
Juolevi over Tkachuk (to be fair I didn't mind this pick, but consensus was most definitely Tkachuk)

On the flip side Boeser and Petterson appear to be both excellent picks, ironically the team f***ed up the easy slam dunk picks in 2014 and 2016 while doing well with what may be considered more challenging picks (in terms of options) in 2015 and 2017. And have to give credit for the later round picks, the team has not had any success with later round draft picks in a very long time.

But missing out on two first line players as a rebuilding team is absolutely devastating.

In short, Benning would be a great head scout/AGM for a winning team since they would not likely pick early and no slam dunk picks.

It does look promising that some of his recent picks are doing better than expectations. Last year's draft is looking great so far

Pettersson is scoring at basically a PPG pace in the SHL (very rare for a teen)
Lind has 18 points in 10 games (120+ point pace)
Gadjovich got his ELC (but isn't exactly scoring above expectations, 9pt in 8 gp)
DiPietro has a .946 SV% after 10 games
Palmu has 10 pts in 15 games in Liga (with NHLe at .6, it roughtly translate to 35-40 NHL point expectation)

That's basically 5 hits out of 8 in the draft with Gunnarsson being someone hard to judge at this point (defensive D in the SHL) and Rathbone is really a 3-5 year project with almost no expectations this year (won't start Harvard till 2018-2019).

 

[Billy Kvcmu]

Lind just keeps on producing well Juolevi keeps on sucking. Such frustration well watching Tkachuck tear up the NHL

I'm curious to know hi do you know that Juolevi is sucking now, by looking the stats?

 

[Dump Itch]

On the flip side Boeser and Petterson appear to be both excellent picks, ironically the team f***ed up the easy slam dunk picks in 2014 and 2016 while doing well with what may be considered more challenging picks (in terms of options) in 2015 and 2017. And have to give credit for the later round picks, the team has not had any success with later round draft picks in a very long time.

Nah. Canucks should've drafted Aho and Glass in those years. Canucks messed up again.

 

[VanJack]

The trouble as I see it, is the Canucks are always tempted to go 'safe; with their high-end first rounders.....Virtanen was considered a 'safer' pick than either Ehlers or Nylander who had skill, but question marks about their size; Juolevi was coming off a dominant WJC and considered a 'safer' pick than Tkachuk who reportedly had skating issues....even back in '05 the Canucks grabbed the late Luc Bourdon at #10 because the next guy on the board, Anze Kopitar, had question marks as a player from Slovenia, which only had a rudimentary hockey program.

Sometimes 'safe' is the same as 'death' when it comes to the Entry Draft.

 

[Southern_Canuck]

Thu Oct 19

Europe

Vaxjo 1 Malmo 2
Pettersson 1 goal (1st)

OHL

Sarnia 8 North Bay 2
McKenzie 0 points, -1 (10 shots on net!)

Peterborough 5 Windsor 1
DiPietro 12 saves on 16 shots

S_C

 

[DownGoesMcDavid]

DAhlen w. 2 more goals today for Timra in a win over Modo.

He was unbelieveable again today . Puck possesion , IQ, positioning and finish.

Reminds me alot of Mathew Tkahuks game minus the snarl

 

[rune74]

DAhlen w. 2 more goals today for Timra in a win over Modo.

He was unbelieveable again today . Puck possesion , IQ, positioning and finish.

Reminds me alot of Mathew Tkahuks game minus the snarl

We need to bring him to the AHL in Jan.