Speculation: The Matthew Tkachuk Megathread (Is he an $11 million player?)

[Sun God Nika]

Has he been offered a qualifying offer yet?

is he expected to just sign it ?

 

[Anglesmith]

Has he been offered a qualifying offer yet?

is he expected to just sign it ?

He'll be qualified of course, but it's complicated.

 

[Dack]

How the hell did Treliving let a situation where he can walk to UFA at 25 happen? Like obviously if he accepts his QO he'll be moved in the following season but what in the hell was the thought process there?

"He took less so we could keep Frolik"

I liked Frolik and that's still dumb as shit. You don't handicap yourself by setting up your star players to walk young in order to keep secondary pieces. We probably would have even gotten more back for him if we were forced to trade him that summer with a little retention. He fell off a cliff that season.

 

[InfinityIggy]

How the hell did Treliving let a situation where he can walk to UFA at 25 happen? Like obviously if he accepts his QO he'll be moved in the following season but what in the hell was the thought process there?

"He took less so we could keep Frolik"

I liked Frolik and that's still dumb as shit. You don't handicap yourself by setting up your star players to walk young in order to keep secondary pieces. We probably would have even gotten more back for him if we were forced to trade him that summer with a little retention. He fell off a cliff that season.

Treliving is terrible at managing RFA players. See Mangi, Tkachuk, walking JG to UFA.

 

[Ace Rimmer]

Has he been offered a qualifying offer yet?

is he expected to just sign it ?

Depends if he thinks he'll get more than his QO in arbitration.

Or Treliving pulls a contract extension out of a hat.

 

[lightstorm]

Treliving is terrible at managing RFA players. See Mangi, Tkachuk, walking JG to UFA.

Everyone* loved their RFA contracts back then. Wizard Tre signed his RFA to team friendly contracts, kept the AAV low.

Now Tre's chickens are coming home to roost

 

[Anglesmith]

Tkachuk just had a 100-point season, but isn't really that kind of player. Especially if Gaudreau leaves, taking the qualifying offer at this point could cost him a lot of money. He likely never has a better chance than this summer to sign a superstar long term deal.

I don't think he will take the QO for that reason. I think he'll press for a long term commitment.

 

[super6646]

Everyone* loved their RFA contracts back then. Wizard Tre signed his RFA to team friendly contracts, kept the AAV low.

Now Tre's chickens are coming home to roost

Pretty much. At the end of the day this is a BUSINESS, and I don't blame the players one bit for leveraging their situation.

Tkachuk just had a 100-point season, but isn't really that kind of player. Especially if Gaudreau leaves, taking the qualifying offer at this point could cost him a lot of money. He likely never has a better chance than this summer to sign a superstar long term deal.

I don't think he will take the QO for that reason. I think he'll press for a long term commitment.

We'll find out tomorrow. We do not know his intentions after all. He might want to go to a different market, or he might want to see what other markets have to offer too.

Even if he drops back to 75-80 pts, he'll get a fortune on the open market next season. 25 year old 1st line power forward? Holy christ the value that player will have.

 

[Some Other Flame]

Tkachuk desire to stay in Calgary probably hinges a lot on what Gaudreau chooses to do

 

[Mobiandi]

Tkachuk's negotiations probably started with Treliving going back and forth with his camp about a 2-way deal

 

[Anglesmith]

Even if he drops back to 75-80 pts, he'll get a fortune on the open market next season. 25 year old 1st line power forward? Holy christ the value that player will have.

Sure, a first-line player. But there is a difference in value between a first-line player and a 100-point player. If he drops his value even by $1.5M, then over 7 years he's costing himself over $10M.

 

[super6646]

Sure, a first-line player. But there is a difference in value between a first-line player and a 100-point player. If he drops his value even by $1.5M, then over 7 years he's costing himself over $10M.

I could easily see him getting 10m+ on the open market as a PPG player. If the AAV is similar, Tkachuk might be willing to lose the extra year to choose his destination.

The structure of his last contract makes it a possibility. Either way, Tkachuk has the team by the balls.

 

[Anglesmith]

I could easily see him getting 10m+ on the open market as a PPG player. If the AAV is similar, Tkachuk might be willing to lose the extra year to choose his destination.

The structure of his last contract makes it a possibility. Either way, Tkachuk has the team by the balls.

Any time a player pops 100 points in a contract year he's gonna have the team by the balls, but when was the last time someone like Tkachuk got paid that kind of money by a GM past adolescence?

Panarin got $10M as a UFA when he was signed to be the top offensive player on the Rangers. There is no track record to suggest that Tkachuk can be that. If I'm him I'm looking to cash out on the raw statistics from this past season.

 

[Iggys Dome]

Any time a player pops 100 points in a contract year he's gonna have the team by the balls, but when was the last time someone like Tkachuk got paid that kind of money by a GM past adolescence?

Panarin got $10M as a UFA when he was signed to be the top offensive player on the Rangers. There is no track record to suggest that Tkachuk can be that. If I'm him I'm looking to cash out on the raw statistics from this past season.

Panarin's AAV is 11.6M

 

[Anglesmith]

Panarin's AAV is 11.6M

My mistake.

 

[JPeeper]

Tkachuk desire to stay in Calgary probably hinges a lot on what Gaudreau chooses to do

I forget which interview it was, but he pretty much said exactly this. It was easy to decipher what he meant when answering whether he was going to sign a extension and it was basically what you said. If Gaudreau get's re-signed Tkachuk wants to stay long term, if Gaudreau walks Tkachuk basically knows the team will go to shit so he wants out (which is kind of concerning from a character point of view since you don't think you can be the guy to lead a team; though it shows he is a smart guy and knows how valuable Johnny is).

 

[PecnoTrunk]

He is American therefore probably will walk.

 

[Ace Rimmer]

 

[Iggys Dome]

Just do it now, get it over with

 

[Double Dion]

Whether Gaudreau stayed or left trading Tkachuk is the right move.

 

[super6646]

Whether Gaudreau stayed or left trading Tkachuk is the right move.

Have had this same sentiment too

 

[HugginThePost]

What a disaster.

On the one hand, it hurts to see this team gutted over the decisions of a single player and the domino effect it will cause.........

.......on the other, this team was going nowhere.

My biggest issue right now is that Tre is not the guy for a rebuild. Not sure who that right guy is, but I know he isn't.

 

[cannucky]

This team had a great year and didn't make it past the second round , hardly a team thats is going nowhere , hike up your panties replace Johnny Hockey and get after it , Edmonton got hot then fell off the cliff , hardly a reason to blow up the team .

 

[tmurfin]

If he’s not willing to sign for a reasonable contract, or is beating around the bush like Johnny did, ship him now before his stats come back to earth without Johnny.

I’d be very weary about signing him to a contract like they offered Johnny. He’s one lower body injury away from being Corey Perry (the corpse version) or James Neal 2.0

 

[TheHudlinator]

This team had a great year and didn't make it past the second round , hardly a team thats is going nowhere , hike up your panties replace Johnny Hockey and get after it , Edmonton got hot then fell off the cliff , hardly a reason to blow up the team .

Oh yes let me go down to the 110+ point player store and pick up a new Gaudreau.