Prospect Info: The 2018 Draft Thread

[Ruok]

Matheson says some of the weirdest stuff. I think it might be time to hang them up.

 

[rambo97]

Have been listening to Stauffer a bit. Seems we were really high on Dobson but Stauffer says “No chance we get him now” and thinks Dobson will go as high as #4 (personally think Mtl will also look at him but that is me and not Stauffer).

Stauffer says for him their is a top 11. Will reveal his top 11 on Thursday show when he will be in Buf at the combine.

Also referenced not trading the pick unless it’s a slam dunk. Says doesn’t see Chia moving it unless it’s a good deal. Says he wouldn’t move it for Max Pac due his contract length.

Anyways guessing the Oilers are going to take Ty Smith. My hunch is when Stauffer lays out his top 11 the two guys will be Kotkaniemi and Smith (most obvious guys and ones we’ve all discussed here for a while).

Seen this schtick from him before. He’s probably talked to the scouts and/or Keith Gretzky. Gets a sense of what the team is thinking and then starts preparing everyone. Will be interesting to see who he starts pimping in the next few weeks.

It will start Thursday for anyone interested.

On a side note it’s a kind of a bummer about Dobson playing so well. Really wanted him here. Would have looked great in Oiler silks. That last win of the season is once again really going to bite us again for the draft. My two favourite players for months have been Hughes and Dobson and now both will be gone by the time we pick.

A part of me now wants the Oilers to trade up to get their guy

 

[McDrai]

I'm not even sure how Matheson is still a sports journalist to be honest. There are plenty of younger, talented journalists waiting for their opportunity.

 

[nexttothemoon]

I'm not even sure how Matheson is still a sports journalist to be honest. There are plenty of younger, talented journalists waiting for their opportunity.

Well he's not wrong on Kravtsov. He's certainly been rising rapidly up the rankings over the last couple months.

I personally have him in my own top 10. I'm sure there are at least a few scouts across the league that value him highly as well.

Fallers often fall further than we think they will and risers often rise further as well.

The Russian factor is all that will keep Kravtsov from being a top 10 pick imo and even then... all it takes is a single team to really like him and he could be picked much higher than most think he will go.

 

[ConnorMcMullet]

I've talked to a couple of Blackhawks fans on their forum, and they all said that there's no chance the hawks take a RHD with Jokiharu and Mitchell as established prospects already. They said it comes down to whether Bowman prefers Kotkaniemi or Smith (most fans want Kotka)... leaving a RD for us

 

[780il]

I've talked to a couple of Blackhawks fans on their forum, and they all said that there's no chance the hawks take a RHD with Jokiharu and Mitchell as established prospects already. They said it comes down to whether Bowman prefers Kotkaniemi or Smith (most fans want Kotka)... leaving a RD for us

I love the sound of that! Thanks Hawks!

 

[McDoused]

Have been listening to Stauffer a bit. Seems we were really high on Dobson but Stauffer says “No chance we get him now” and thinks Dobson will go as high as #4 (personally think Mtl will also look at him but that is me and not Stauffer).

Stauffer says for him their is a top 11. Will reveal his top 11 on Thursday show when he will be in Buf at the combine.

Also referenced not trading the pick unless it’s a slam dunk. Says doesn’t see Chia moving it unless it’s a good deal. Says he wouldn’t move it for Max Pac due his contract length.

Anyways guessing the Oilers are going to take Ty Smith. My hunch is when Stauffer lays out his top 11 the two guys will be Kotkaniemi and Smith (most obvious guys and ones we’ve all discussed here for a while).

Seen this schtick from him before. He’s probably talked to the scouts and/or Keith Gretzky. Gets a sense of what the team is thinking and then starts preparing everyone. Will be interesting to see who he starts pimping in the next few weeks.

It will start Thursday for anyone interested.

On a side note it’s a kind of a bummer about Dobson playing so well. Really wanted him here. Would have looked great in Oiler silks. That last win of the season is once again really going to bite us again for the draft. My two favourite players for months have been Hughes and Dobson and now both will be gone by the time we pick.

A part of me now wants the Oilers to trade up to get their guy

It's Thursday. Time to tune in to Stauffer and see what kind of garbage he is spewing. I always love how he thinks he knows who the Oilers are picking only to be surprised when they pick someone else.

 

[780il]

Bob just released his top 12:
Dahlin
Svechnikov
Zadina
Dobson
Tkachuk
Hughes
Boqvist
Kotkaniemi
Wahlstrom
Bouchard
Smith
Hayton

Bouchard at 10? Yes please.

 

[McDoused]

I've talked to a couple of Blackhawks fans on their forum, and they all said that there's no chance the hawks take a RHD with Jokiharu and Mitchell as established prospects already. They said it comes down to whether Bowman prefers Kotkaniemi or Smith (most fans want Kotka)... leaving a RD for us

Yes please. From all the rumours were hearing I wouldn't be surprised if the following happens:

Buf - Dahlin
Car - Svech
Mtl - Zadina
Ott - Tkachuk
Ari - Dobson
Det - Hughes
Van - Boqvist
Chi - Kotkaniemi
NYR - Wahlstrom
Edm - Bouchard

I would love Bouchard.

 

[FlameChampion]

Bob just released his top 12:
Dahlin
Svechnikov
Zadina
Dobson
Tkachuk
Hughes
Boqvist
Kotkaniemi
Wahlstrom
Bouchard
Smith
Hayton

Bouchard at 10? Yes please.

Is this Bob McKenzie? Nvm. Stauffer

 

[BarDownBobo]

Yes please. From all the rumours were hearing I wouldn't be surprised if the following happens:

Buf - Dahlin
Car - Svech
Mtl - Zadina
Ott - Tkachuk
Ari - Dobson
Det - Hughes
Van - Boqvist
Chi - Kotkaniemi
NYR - Wahlstrom
Edm - Bouchard

I would love Bouchard.

I'm guessing Boqvist and Bouchard will be swapped here. Bouchard is a safe pick who's very close to NHL ready, which will make teams value him higher. Boqvist has a higher ceiling, but he's got a lot more risk that he might never turn out and he's minumum 3 years away likely.

 

[ConnorMcNugesaitl]

I've seen some Wings fans say they think the Wings are very high on Bouchard. I could see Dobson falling to their pick so moving down if they think they'd still get Bouchard would make sense.

Were people really that high on Dobson based on the Memorial Cup? Maybe I wasn't paying that much attention because he didn't really wow me to the point where he would shoot up my rankings if I had him ranked.

I don't really have any of them ranked because I haven't seen very much of these kids at all now that hockey streams was eliminated and MIC stopped broadcasting them.

 

[Debonair]

I remember Halls draft year the 2 big dman that fell were Cam Fowler and Brandon Gormley - they were ranked top 10, maybe even top 5, and fell to 12 and 13 respectively. Of course only 1 of them turned out, that happens. The point is I can see something similar happening here - and the Oilers having their pick of a couple D

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Yes please. From all the rumours were hearing I wouldn't be surprised if the following happens:

Buf - Dahlin
Car - Svech
Mtl - Zadina
Ott - Tkachuk
Ari - Dobson
Det - Hughes
Van - Boqvist
Chi - Kotkaniemi
NYR - Wahlstrom
Edm - Bouchard

I would love Bouchard.

That would be amazing.

 

[McDoused]

I'm guessing Boqvist and Bouchard will be swapped here. Bouchard is a safe pick who's very close to NHL ready, which will make teams value him higher. Boqvist has a higher ceiling, but he's got a lot more risk that he might never turn out and he's minumum 3 years away likely.

With Vancouver loving the swedes and rumoured to be liking Boqvist and Dobson/ I would be surprised if they took Bouchard.

I've seen some Wings fans say they think the Wings are very high on Bouchard. I could see Dobson falling to their pick so moving down if they think they'd still get Bouchard would make sense.

Were people really that high on Dobson based on the Memorial Cup? Maybe I wasn't paying that much attention because he didn't really wow me to the point where he would shoot up my rankings if I had him ranked.

I don't really have any of them ranked because I haven't seen very much of these kids at all now that hockey streams was eliminated and MIC stopped broadcasting them.

I still thing the wings take the guy right in their back yard. And yes people are going crazy for Dobson right now (which is why I have him going 5).

 

[ConnorMcNugesaitl]

I remember Halls draft year the 2 big dman that fell were Cam Fowler and Brandon Gormley - they were ranked top 10, maybe even top 5, and fell to 12 and 13 respectively. Of course only 1 of them turned out, that happens. The point is I can see something similar happening here - and the Oilers having their pick of a couple D

I remember yelling at the TV wanting the Oilers to trade to nab Fowler as he was falling.

In hindsight they probably didn't have anything worth trading for that pick. Of course in hindsight pretty much anything they could've given Dallas would've been better for Dallas than using their pick.

 

[PKSpecialist]

I've seen some Wings fans say they think the Wings are very high on Bouchard. I could see Dobson falling to their pick so moving down if they think they'd still get Bouchard would make sense.

Were people really that high on Dobson based on the Memorial Cup? Maybe I wasn't paying that much attention because he didn't really wow me to the point where he would shoot up my rankings if I had him ranked.

I don't really have any of them ranked because I haven't seen very much of these kids at all now that hockey streams was eliminated and MIC stopped broadcasting them.

For me the Memorial Cup was confirmation. I had him at 4 before the event... I have him at 3 now. I would pick him before Zadina. I’m that certain now that his skills will translate. I struggled with the debate between him and Boqvist as the second best defender of the draft based on upside before, but it’s an easy one now.

 

[McDNicks17]

I remember Halls draft year the 2 big dman that fell were Cam Fowler and Brandon Gormley - they were ranked top 10, maybe even top 5, and fell to 12 and 13 respectively. Of course only 1 of them turned out, that happens. The point is I can see something similar happening here - and the Oilers having their pick of a couple D

I think it's less likely this year.

That year had tons of forward talent and a (then thought to be) elite goalie prospect in that range. I don't think there's any Skinners or Granlunds to push a defenseman out of the top10 this year.

Maybe NYR takes another McIlrath or Lias Andersson though. Who knows.

 

[BarDownBobo]

With Vancouver loving the swedes and rumoured to be liking Boqvist and Dobson/ I would be surprised if they took Bouchard.



I still thing the wings take the guy right in their back yard. And yes people are going crazy for Dobson right now (which is why I have him going 5).

I think there's a few things that could make the Nucks look at Bouchard. I believe him and Juolevi were partners last year before Juolevi went back to Finland, and there's pressure from management for a quick turnaround so a dman who could be a player for them in 19/20 if not this coming year could be a lot more appealing. It'll be an interesting draft for sure, I'm confident one of the 4 dmen will be there at 10 but I keep flip flopping as to which one it'll be.

 

[McDoused]

I think there's a few things that could make the Nucks look at Bouchard. I believe him and Juolevi were partners last year before Juolevi went back to Finland, and there's pressure from management for a quick turnaround so a dman who could be a player for them in 19/20 if not this coming year could be a lot more appealing. It'll be an interesting draft for sure, I'm confident one of the 4 dmen will be there at 10 but I keep flip flopping as to which one it'll be.

If Boqvist falls that's good too. I think people put too much stock into CHL playoffs. Look at Reinhart with the Oil Kings. Evan Bouchard lead his team in production as a defenseman. His 87 points were 33 points higher than the next player on his team and 62 points higher than the next defenseman. His offensive numbers are just insane. They are higher than Drew Doughty, Alex Pietrangelo, Mikhail Sergachev, etc. I don't think I've seen a dman produce as much as him in his draft year since Ryan Ellis.

 

[Delicious Pancakes]

For me the Memorial Cup was confirmation. I had him at 4 before the event... I have him at 3 now. I would pick him before Zadina. I’m that certain now that his skills will translate. I struggled with the debate between him and Boqvist as the second best defender of the draft based on upside before, but it’s an easy one now.

I still have Boqvist and Dobson as 3a and 3b. I was really hoping Dobson would fall to 10 but that appears unlikely now given how people have responded to his Mem. Cup showing. It's funny because the only Acadie-Bathurst game I was able to see was the AB vs. Hamilton game and I was disappointed in his defensive play that night, yet now he's moving up peoples' lists.

 

[McTonyBrar]

Okay guys lets say all the picks Oilers want out of the top 10 are gone. Who would you take out of the 11-20? (I know everyone will most likely say Kotkaniemi but lets say he was never in the draft)

 

[BoldNewLettuce]

Okay guys lets say all the picks Oilers want out of the top 10 are gone. Who would you take out of the 11-20? (I know everyone will most likely say Kotkaniemi but lets say he was never in the draft)

So

Dahlin
Svech
Zadina
Dobson
Hughes
Wahlstrom
Bouchard
Kotkaniemi
Boqvist
Tkachuk

Are all Gone?

Somehow?

Vegas?

In that case farabee or smith.....or the bold pick....dellandrea.

Lets go bold.

Ty Dellandrea

 

[McTonyBrar]

So

Dahlin
Svech
Zadina
Dobson
Hughes
Wahlstrom
Bouchard
Kotkaniemi
Boqvist
Tkachuk

Are all Gone?

Somehow?

Vegas?

In that case farabee or smith.....or the bold pick....dellandrea.

Lets go bold.

Ty Dellandrea

Where would you rank Bode Wilde? That's someone I'd look at

 

[BoldNewLettuce]

Where would you rank Bode Wilde? That's someone I'd look at

Right below "fantastic name"