The 2013 Double-A Draft Thread

[ted2019]

Danville will set Their lines later.

 

[Hobnobs]

Vikings picks:

Grant Marshall, RW
Thomas Rundqvist, C
Thommy Abrahamsson, D

for now.. its new years and Im busy

 

[Rob Scuderi]

Tom Reid, D

Defensive defenseman extraordinaire who killed 50% of his teams' penalties in his 701 game career. Finished 10th in all-star team voting in 1972 with only 21 points. His career was cut short by a mysterious skin rash called the "gunk" that caused him pain every season. Later it was realized that Reid was allergic to the dye used in jerseys, and a number of athletes in other sports were similarly afflicted.

"Reid is that rare bird, a young fellow who emphasizes defence and works at it," says North Stars' coach xxx. "Nowadays a defenceman doesn't get much chance to hit, but Reid has fine anticipation and gets in his share of shots."

Reid agrees he enjoys scoring goals just like any other player. "But to me the ultimate in satisfaction is preventing a breakaway, overhauling a rival and taking the puck off him before he can draw a bead on our goalkeeper."

Bio from last year

George Allen LW/D

Rugged winger also dropped back to defense on occasion.

82 goals 115 assists 197 points in 339 GP

Thompson paired Rookies xxx and George Allen with Centre Cully Dahlstrom, which gave him a rugged combination and one which thrives on heavy going.

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=VB9kAAAAIBAJ&sjid=PnsNAAAAIBAJ&pg=3900,5010312&dq=george+allen+hockey&hl=en

The Chicago defense strengthened by the return of xxx from the United States coast guard service, will be drawn from xxx, George Allen, Eddie Wares, Joe Cooper, and Reg Hamilton.

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=XhM_AAAAIBAJ&sjid=JU8MAAAAIBAJ&pg=5115,2272606&dq=george+allen+hockey&hl=en

As in most of their recent games, it was Canadiens' fast-stepping trio of Billy Reay, xxx, and George Allen that carried the mail for the Montrealers. Allen and Reay collected the Canuck markers.

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=Cr1jAAAAIBAJ&sjid=RHoNAAAAIBAJ&pg=1376,2286982&dq=george+allen+hockey&hl=en

...and Left-wingers Doug Bentley, xxx, and George Allen. Those men played the kind of fast, aggressive hockey that made Chicago one of the league's "gold mines" last year, when 288,315 customers gave Chicago second place...

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=CIAuAAAAIBAJ&sjid=3ZgFAAAAIBAJ&pg=5314,4763238&dq=george+allen+hockey&hl=en

And I'll finish off with a playmaking winger for a top six spare, J.P. Dumont, RW

He has the most adjusted ES points of any post-expansion player left, and I believe he has the 10th most adjusted PP points as well.

He has vsX scores of 68, 61, 59, 58, 53, 49, 41 for a six year sum of 348 which is better than both of my top six RWs and very good for this draft.

 

[BubbaBoot]

Damn, I was hoping to get Rundqvist and Dumont in the single-A Draft.

 

[Hedberg]

The Muskies select LW/C Dave Hannan

5'11, 170 lbs
Shoots L

1988, 1996 Stanley Cup Champion

114 G, 191 A, 305 Pts in 841 NHL GP

Joe Pelletier:

Dave Hannan was an average player in many respects. Yet he was one of the most valuable and unheralded players on every team he ever played on.

"Hanner" was an average skater and puckhandler. He liked to play a physical game but because of his size limitations, he wasn't the most effective hitter out there. Yet he played bigger than he actually was. Hannan was a good faceoff man and penalty killer, with a knack for defensive anticipation.

D Marc-Edouard Vlasic

6'1, 205 lbs
Shoots Left

29 G, 125 A, 154 Pts in 558 NHL GP

Hockey News:

Rarely makes mistakes in the defensive zone. Displays a mature game with the right attitude and is capable of playing in any game situation. Is plenty mobile. Quality puck-moving, big-minute defenseman.

and D Yuri Shatalov

5'8, 178 lbs
Shoots Right

1974 World Championship Gold Medal

Chidlovski

Yuri Shatalov was a steady Russian elite league blueliner of the 1970s. Style wise, he was rather a reliable solid player in his own zone than a spectacular offensive defenseman. He wasn't a slick skater or a speedy zone-to-zone runnner. Shatalov's specialty was mostly physical play and shot-blocking during the opponents' attacks. He was quiet often assigned to neutralize specific players of the opponents' team.

Joe Pelletier:

Yuri Shatalov was a defensive defenseman who is one of the few Soviet players during the "robotic" era who could have his style of play described as "full of heart." He was often used against the other team's top players because of his defensive play and his first-step quickness.

Shatalov was captain of the Soviet club team Krylja Sovetov, but never became a regular on the national team.

Perhaps he never became a regular on the national team following an unusual event in Soviet hockey that occurred in 1973. Shatalov attacked an opponent on the ice. It was a routine thing in Canadian hockey, but very much frowned upon in Soviet hockey.

 

[seventieslord]

Wow, so many players today I am glad to see selected! Here’s a top-10, in order:

Dineen
Reid
Dumont
Witt
Vlasic
Moreau
Brannen
Allen
Hill

I’ll select a guy who was 3rd, 4th and 5th in goalie all-star voting and statistically similar to Ed Giacomin diring their time together in New York: Gilles Villemure, G

I’ll also take Coddy Winters, D/F, who was a superstar against lesser competition in the USA from 1908 to 1925. He was a superb all-around player at his level, and

Lastly, I’ll select Parker MacDonald, LW/C, who has the best percentage scores left for any pre-expansion forward. Basically a stat-based pick who I think was more or less one-dimensional, I only expect him to provide some offense when needed due to injury.

 

[VanIslander]

Four of us still need to update our roster post with a complete roster of 25, including line-up formation and captains (one 'C' and two 'A').

Here are the six that are done already:

COMPLETED ROSTERS:


Seattle Ironmen

coaches Vsevolod Bobrov & Boris Kulagin

Aaron Broten - Christian Bordeleau - Danny Lawson
Steamer Maxwell (A) - Jiri Novak - Jan Klapac
Val Fonteyne - Claude Lapointe - Kevin McClelland
Gord Pettinger - Jack Brannen - Dainius Zubrus
Don Gallinger, Rudi Ball

Ron Plumb - Curt Giles (A)
Jack Armytage (C) - Gary Doak
Luke Richardson - Rocket Power
Brendan Witt

Gary Smith
Joe Daley


Erie Panthers

coach Bob Berry

Red Green - Derek Roy - Brian Mullen (A)
Walt Poddubny - Brian Bradley - Evgeny Zimin
Stan Jonathan - Forbes Kennedy (C) - Gerry Couture
Greg Gilbert - Sergei Brylin - Shirley Davidson
Mike Corrigan, Bill Derlago

Mike McEwen - Pierre Bouchard (A)
Norm Maciver - Ruslan Salei
Alfred Kuchevsky - Joel Quenneville
Jimmy Fowler, Todd Gill

Jake Forbes
Jocelyn Thibault


Boston AA Unicorns

coaches Vladimir Ruzicka & Ike Hildebrand

Jorgen Pettersson - Raimo Helminen (C) - Nathan Horton
Tom McCarthy - Jim Harrison - Jim Lorentz
Pascal Dupuis - Jim McFadden - Martin Erat
Antti Laaksonen - Antoine Vermette (A) - Larry Regan
Yury Krylov, Edmond Bouchard

Lalli Partinen (A) - Arnold Kadlec
Timo Jutila - Abbie Newell
Bobby Genge - Ken Klee
Paul Laus

Jorma Valtonen
Petr Briza


Edmonton Oil Kings

coaches Gerry Cheevers & Jacques Plante

Matti Hagman - Carey Wilson (A) - Alex Radulov
Danny Lewicki - Gerry Meehan (A) - Ales Hemsky
Ryane Clowe - Brooks Laich - Eddie Wares
Jack McIntyre - Jay McClement - George Laraque
Fido Purpur, Martin Hanzal

Brooks Orpik - Dan Girardi
Marc Staal - Rick Lanz
Petteri Nummelin - Wilf Louglin
Joe Matte

Ron Grahame
Eddie Giroux


Lindsay Muskies

coach Cooney Weiland

Réal Chevrefils - Dutch Gainor - Alexei Morozov (C)
Bob Berry - Oliver Seibert - Gary Leeman
Adam Brown - Earl Ingarfield (A) - Joe Pavelski
Jean-Guy Gendron - Larry Popein - Pentti Lund
Archie Briden - Dave Hannan

Paul Cavallini - Nikolai Makarov
Larry Cahan (A) - Ilya Byakin
Harry Smith - John Mayasich
Marc-Édouard Vlasic - Yuri Shatalov

Roman Cechmanek
Ilya Bryzgalov


Balgonie North Stars

coach Ron Wilson

Pete Horeck - Viktor Polupanov - Mike Ryder
Eric Vail - Vladimir Golikov - Alexander Martynyuk
John Marks - Shawn Horcoff (A) - Keith McCreary (C)
Darcy Rota - Steve Ott (A) - Floyd Smith
Parker MacDonald, Murray Armstrong

Keith Carney - Yuri Fedorov
Roy Rickey - Rod Flett
Terry Carkner - Rick Lapointe
Gerry Hart, Cody Winters

Herb Collins
Gilles Villemure



​

 

[VanIslander]

Six teams have completed roster posts. Four more need to be completed asap.

Hobnobs still has two picks to make up (including a coach), jkrx needs to assemble lines, Rob Scuderi needs to put his last few picks on his post and indicate captaincy, ted1971 needs to indicate captaincy.

Regular season ranking votes are to be sent to Sturminator on Monday.

 

[ResilientBeast]

Fixed my captaincy issue

 

[jkrx]

Coach: Bengt-Ã…ke Gustafsson

Alex Frolov - Juha Widing – Bobby Ryan
Pat Hickey - Jörgen Jönsson (C) - Andrei Kovalenko
Curt Bennett - Chris Kelly – Lew Morrison
Ethan Moreau (A) – Scott Thornton – Gerry James
Dave Lowry – Max Kaminsky – Hans Öberg

Herbert Russell (A) – Brian Benning
Joe Cirella – Gary Nylund
Shawn Chambers – Frank Martin
Stig Salming

Jimmy Foster
Antti Niemi

 

[Rob Scuderi]

Pittsburgh Pirates

Coach Bob Pulford

Oren Frood - Jude Drouin - Tommy Williams
Tord Lundstrom - Andy McDonald - Glenn Brydson
Brent Ashton - Mike Sillinger - Jason Blake
Ken Smith - Jarret Stoll - Tom Fitzgerald (A)
Extra: Mats Ahlberg, J.P. Dumont, George Allen (call also fill on defense)

Dave Lewis (C) - Toni Lydman
Joni Pitkanen - Sylvain Lefebvre (A)
Tom Reid - Frank Mathers
Extra: Filip Kuba

Urpo Ylonen
Andy Aitkenhead

 

[Hobnobs]

Igor Dmitriev, Coach
Valeri Bure, RW

 

[Hobnobs]

Raoul Le Mats Swedish Vikings

Ilkka Sinisalo - Guy Charron - Mariusz Czerkawski (A)
Fredrik Modin - Roland Eriksson - Keith Jones
Sergio Momesso - Valtteri Filppula - Wayne Presley
Chris Nilan - Frans Nielsen - Grant Marshall
Thomas Rundqvist, Valeri Bure

Fred Higginbotham - Jeff Norton (A)
Bryan Marchment - Willie Huber (C)
Paul Baxter - Danny Markov
Mats Waltin, Thommy Abrahamsson

Byron Dafoe
Sergei Bobrovsky

Coach: Igor Dmitriev​

 

[VanIslander]

All of our teams ready for regular season competition.

COMPLETED ROSTERS:


Seattle Ironmen

coaches Vsevolod Bobrov & Boris Kulagin

Aaron Broten - Christian Bordeleau - Danny Lawson
Steamer Maxwell (A) - Jiri Novak - Jan Klapac
Val Fonteyne - Claude Lapointe - Kevin McClelland
Gord Pettinger - Jack Brannen - Dainius Zubrus
Don Gallinger, Rudi Ball

Ron Plumb - Curt Giles (A)
Jack Armytage (C) - Gary Doak
Luke Richardson - Rocket Power
Brendan Witt

Gary Smith
Joe Daley


Erie Panthers

coach Bob Berry

Red Green - Derek Roy - Brian Mullen (A)
Walt Poddubny - Brian Bradley - Evgeny Zimin
Stan Jonathan - Forbes Kennedy (C) - Gerry Couture
Greg Gilbert - Sergei Brylin - Shirley Davidson
Mike Corrigan, Bill Derlago

Mike McEwen - Pierre Bouchard (A)
Norm Maciver - Ruslan Salei
Alfred Kuchevsky - Joel Quenneville
Jimmy Fowler, Todd Gill

Jake Forbes
Jocelyn Thibault


Boston AA Unicorns

coaches Vladimir Ruzicka & Ike Hildebrand

Jorgen Pettersson - Raimo Helminen (C) - Nathan Horton
Tom McCarthy - Jim Harrison - Jim Lorentz
Pascal Dupuis - Jim McFadden - Martin Erat
Antti Laaksonen - Antoine Vermette (A) - Larry Regan
Yury Krylov, Edmond Bouchard

Lalli Partinen (A) - Arnold Kadlec
Timo Jutila - Abbie Newell
Bobby Genge - Ken Klee
Paul Laus

Jorma Valtonen
Petr Briza


Edmonton Oil Kings

coaches Gerry Cheevers & Jacques Plante

Matti Hagman - Carey Wilson (A) - Alex Radulov
Danny Lewicki - Gerry Meehan (C) - Ales Hemsky
Ryane Clowe - Brooks Laich - Eddie Wares
Jack McIntyre - Jay McClement - George Laraque
Fido Purpur, Martin Hanzal

Brooks Orpik (A) - Dan Girardi
Marc Staal - Rick Lanz
Petteri Nummelin - Wilf Louglin
Joe Matte

Ron Grahame
Eddie Giroux


Lindsay Muskies

coach Cooney Weiland

Réal Chevrefils - Dutch Gainor - Alexei Morozov (C)
Bob Berry - Oliver Seibert - Gary Leeman
Adam Brown - Earl Ingarfield (A) - Joe Pavelski
Jean-Guy Gendron - Larry Popein - Pentti Lund
Archie Briden, Dave Hannan

Paul Cavallini - Nikolai Makarov
Larry Cahan (A) - Ilya Byakin
Harry Smith - John Mayasich
Marc-Édouard Vlasic - Yuri Shatalov

Roman Cechmanek
Ilya Bryzgalov


Balgonie North Stars

coach Ron Wilson

Pete Horeck - Viktor Polupanov - Mike Ryder
Eric Vail - Vladimir Golikov - Alexander Martynyuk
John Marks - Shawn Horcoff (A) - Keith McCreary (C)
Darcy Rota - Steve Ott (A) - Floyd Smith
Parker MacDonald, Murray Armstrong

Keith Carney - Yuri Fedorov
Roy Rickey - Rod Flett
Terry Carkner - Rick Lapointe
Gerry Hart, Cody Winters

Herb Collins
Gilles Villemure


Quinte Red Devils

coach Bengt-Ã…ke Gustafsson

Alex Frolov - Juha Widing – Bobby Ryan
Pat Hickey - Jörgen Jönsson (C) - Andrei Kovalenko
Curt Bennett - Chris Kelly – Lew Morrison
Ethan Moreau (A) – Scott Thornton – Gerry James
Dave Lowry, Max Kaminsky, Hans Öberg

Herbert Russell (A) – Brian Benning
Joe Cirella – Gary Nylund
Shawn Chambers – Frank Martin
Stig Salming

Jimmy Foster
Antti Niemi


Pittsburgh Pirates

coach Bob Pulford

Oren Frood - Jude Drouin - Tommy Williams
Tord Lundstrom - Andy McDonald - Glenn Brydson
Brent Ashton - Mike Sillinger - Jason Blake
Ken Smith - Jarret Stoll - Tom Fitzgerald (A)
Mats Ahlberg, George Allen, J.P. Dumont

Dave Lewis (C) - Toni Lydman
Joni Pitkanen - Sylvain Lefebvre (A)
Tom Reid - Frank Mathers
Filip Kuba

Urpo Ylonen
Andy Aitkenhead


Raoul Le Mats Swedish Vikings

coach Igor Dmitriev

Ilkka Sinisalo - Guy Charron - Mariusz Czerkawski (A)
Fredrik Modin - Roland Eriksson - Keith Jones
Sergio Momesso - Valtteri Filppula - Wayne Presley
Chris Nilan - Frans Nielsen - Grant Marshall
Thomas Rundqvist

Fred Higginbotham - Jeff Norton (A)
Bryan Marchment - Willie Huber (C)
Paul Baxter - Danny Markov
Mats Waltin, Thommy Abrahamsson

Byron Dafoe
Sergei Bobrovsky


Danville Dashers

coach Bill Dineen

Alexander Skvortsov - Andre Savard - Tom Webster
Derek King - Brendan Morrison- Willy Lindstrom
Chuck Lefley - Sergei Shepelev - Mel Hill
Ted Donato (A) - Dean McAmmond - Ian Laperriere (C)
Adam Creighton, Art Throop, Chris Neil

Bryan Berard - Barry Long
Billy Stuart - Garth Boesch
Anton Volchenkov - Douglas Murray (A)
Genrihk Sidorenkov

Nikolai Puchkov
Al Smith

​

Send your rankings (1st to 10th with your own team 1st) to Sturminator on Monday. Until then, reflect on the teams.

 

[BubbaBoot]

Potential Problem:

ResilientBeast picked Valeri Bure in today's single-A draft about 12:28 p.m.

HobNobs also picked him in today's double-AA draft about 5:24 p.m.

Who lays claim to him?

 

[tony d]

Should be HobNobs. ResilientBeast did pick him first but he picked him in a later draft than HobNobs.

 

[TheDevilMadeMe]

Potential Problem:

ResilientBeast picked Valeri Bure in today's single-A draft about 12:28 p.m.

HobNobs also picked him in today's double-AA draft about 5:24 p.m.

Who lays claim to him?

This is a new one.

 

[VanIslander]

The problem is most easily solved by having one of them volunteer to re-pick. They both have some claim, and it's my fault for not delaying the Single-A draft until after the late picks were all made in the Double-A draft.

 

[seventieslord]

Should be HobNobs. ResilientBeast did pick him first but he picked him in a later draft than HobNobs.

If that's the case, then where does one draw the line? Someone who is not done their team could poach any of our A draft picks right now. In theory anyone could do it with an add/drop. If we're silly enough to have two drafts going at once, then first guy to take him gets him. Valeri Bure belongs to beast.

 

[VanIslander]

No one has add/dropped nor asked about it. So, it's easy to make a rule before that happens: If anyone really wants to make an add/drop before Monday's regular season voting then do so by Sunday night at midnight, and none of the Single-A draft picks made before that add/drop are eligible. That solves that.

 

[ResilientBeast]

No one has add/dropped nor asked about it. So, it's easy to make a rule before that happens: If anyone really wants to make an add/drop before Monday's regular season voting then do so by Sunday night at midnight, and none of the Single-A draft picks made before that add/drop are eligible. That solves that.

So what does this mean for the current situation?

 

[VanIslander]

If we're silly enough to have two drafts going at once, then first guy to take him gets him. Valeri Bure belongs to beast.

1. The Double-A draft was officially finished but Hobnobs had two picks he had missed.
2. ResilientBeast made his Single-A pick BEFORE Hobnobs made his late Double-A pick.
3. It's a bigger loss to lose a first liner in the Single-A than a last extra forward in the Double-A.

so,...

ResilientBeast will receive Valeri Bure. My apologies to Hobnobs for not delaying the Single-A draft until after he made the late, missed picks.

 

[seventieslord]

I agree it's completely on hobnobs for not completing his team on time. But let's be honest, this happens in every mld, AAA, and AA. At this point we should expect it. It's not usually a problem, though, because we haven't ever gone and started another draft by the time the stragglers finish up.

 

[BubbaBoot]

I agree it's completely on hobnobs for not completing his team on time. But let's be honest, this happens in every mld, AAA, and AA. At this point we should expect it. It's not usually a problem, though, because we haven't ever gone and started another draft by the time the stragglers finish up.

Doesn't Hobs live in Sweden? About a 5 or 6 hr time difference, making it a little tougher for him to pick?

 

[VanIslander]

Doesn't Hobs live in Sweden? About a 5 or 6 hr time difference, making it a little tougher for him to pick?

I live in South Korea and stay up until MIDNIGHT local time (10am eastern 14 hours earlier eastern). I also emphasize on the boards and in PMs to PM a shortlist if one cannot pick.

I had twice apologized for my role in this. No more. Let's move on...