Speculation: Taylor Hall - Contract discussion

[mtnet]

Discussed the disgust

 

[Foppa2118]

Could the Avs and Devils work something out around the following?

Hall + Greene for Zadorov + Newhook + Greer + Avs 1st

 

[Beetlebum]

He is a fraud, trade him. Doesn't stack up with some of the elite wingers this franchise has had.

 

[glenwo2]

sooo what did the discuss then?

The Weather?

 

[Unknown Caller]

Abramov and Davidson are worth very little. A mid 1st and Brendan Lemieux isn't much. Taylor Hall isn't in his prime.



It is extremely unlikely that Colorado would offer Byram without getting a significant prospect from NJ back. Like, Ty Smith big. They used a 4th overall pick on him a year ago. Even if they got Hall signed long-term, which I'm not sure they could do or would do, I don't think Colorado trades them Byram.

Taylor Hall isn't in his prime? He's 27 years old and producing at a 90-100 point pace the last 2 seasons, the best in his career by far. I'm not saying we should expect to get a top 10 prospect in hockey, but it's crazy the way some here devalue their own assets.

 

[Unknown Caller]

He is a fraud, trade him. Doesn't stack up with some of the elite wingers this franchise has had.

This couldn't be more wrong. We have one Hart trophy winner in franchise history.

 

[Emperoreddy]

The Weather?

They haven’t met yet. They are meeting Thursday.

 

[Auto Pilot]

they’re not adding picks along with the best defensive prospect in the nhl to get a few months of a guy who played less than half a season last year, fresh off of knee surgery

They are adding picks if they’re getting one of the best wingers in the game that has won an MVP just two seasons ago.

 

[Emperoreddy]

They are adding picks if they’re getting one of the best wingers in the game that has won an MVP just two seasons ago.

You are leaving out he missed 50 games only one season ago and is coming off knee surgery.

Also he is a pending UFA. That takes a huge bite out of the upsides of a return.

 

[Foppa2118]

It is extremely unlikely that Colorado would offer Byram without getting a significant prospect from NJ back. Like, Ty Smith big. They used a 4th overall pick on him a year ago. Even if they got Hall signed long-term, which I'm not sure they could do or would do, I don't think Colorado trades them Byram.

As an Av fan I think this is most likely true. The Avs aren't in a position to give up Byram after trading Barrie and it's taken them about 14 years to build a decent blue line. They'd need to structure a deal without Byram.

 

[Blackjack]

Abramov and Davidson are worth very little. A mid 1st and Brendan Lemieux isn't much. Taylor Hall isn't in his prime.

It is extremely unlikely that Colorado would offer Byram without getting a significant prospect from NJ back. Like, Ty Smith big.

I would do Hall + Smith for Byram. Colorado probably wouldn't.

 

[Emperoreddy]

I would do Hall + Smith for Byram. Colorado probably wouldn't.

That really doesn’t do much for us either though.

 

[Blackjack]

That really doesn’t do much for us either though.

If that's what you think then we probably have very different views about Ty Smith's ceiling. I think he can be a #3, maybe a #2. I think Byram will be a #1.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

this is a silly post

Please enlighten me as to what you think the Devils are going to get for Hall

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

Taylor Hall isn't in his prime? He's 27 years old and producing at a 90-100 point pace the last 2 seasons, the best in his career by far. I'm not saying we should expect to get a top 10 prospect in hockey, but it's crazy the way some here devalue their own assets.

he turns 28 next week and chances are he is not in his prime anymore, no.

 

[Bleedred]

This couldn't be more wrong. We have one Hart trophy winner in franchise history.

Some of that person's takes are quite interesting to say the least...

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

They are adding picks if they’re getting one of the best wingers in the game that has won an MVP just two seasons ago.

You can keep posting/believing that, but that doesn't make it true.

 

[Emperoreddy]

If that's what you think then we probably have very different views about Ty Smith's ceiling. I think he can be a #3, maybe a #2. I think Byram will be a #1.

Byram is the better prospect but not by enough that this deal makes sense. It still leaves us with only one high end D prospect on the left side, Hall is gone, and we didn’t get any 1st rounders either.

 

[The 29th Pick]

Please enlighten me as to what you think the Devils are going to get for Hall

thats just my point, nobody on here knows

 

[Emperoreddy]

We all have eyes. We can see Hall doesn’t look like the same player as the one that won the mvp (which also may have been an outlier year for him). He isn’t as explosive, he isn’t controlling play like he did. Maybe that will come with time, but coming off knee surgery, it has to be something to think about.

And if we see it, professional scouts absolutely see it. Yeah a GM could ignore that and offer something stupid, but that isn’t highly likely for a rental.

Of course that doesn’t mean he has no value. He is putting up points at a very good rate still. He should return something good

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

thats just my point, nobody on here knows

OK, sure.

But we have a pretty good idea we won't be getting arguably the best prospect outside the NHL.

 

[Blackjack]

OK, sure.

But we have a pretty good idea we won't be getting arguably the best prospect outside the NHL.

I agree, but I do think we have a chance to get a better-than-usual haul for Hall. The stars are kind of lining up on this one with the Avs missing two elite wingers and Tarasenko also being out you have two win-now clubs desperate for what we have, and you have all the other teams out west that want to keep him away from St. Louis and Colorado. A lot depends on how things shake out between now and February, but if Hall is producing more than a point per game and those needs are still there, it will be a bidding war.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

a few of the Blues fans offered Vince Dunn (and more) for a signed Hall

which I would be ALL over

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

Wrong thread

 

[Emperoreddy]

a few of the Blues fans offered Vince Dunn (and more) for a signed Hall

which I would be ALL over

They can afford him?