Confirmed with Link: Talbot Traded to Senators for Filip Gustavsson

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on your job, if your boss hires your replacement should you be happy? no Fn way
OR, if they hired someone and said, "whoever does a better job, gets the job" the other will be on call. Seems like a more appropriate analogy.
 

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on your job, if your boss hires your replacement should you be happy? no Fn way
If you see it as you being replaced...that should be a signal you're not doing your job well enough and if you want to keep it...do better.
Competition is not a bad thing.
 

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After how everything went down the last several months, I don't see how it's not more like "hey we're hiring this guy, he's gonna have a lot more leash than you to make mistakes, he's also gonna be the de facto starter when push comes to shove regardless of work performance, because I like him more from working together at a previous company, if you don't like it I don't care"
 

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After how everything went down the last several months, I don't see how it's not more like "hey we're hiring this guy, he's gonna have a lot more leash than you to make mistakes, he's also gonna be the de facto starter when push comes to shove regardless of work performance, because I like him more from working together at a previous company, if you don't like it I don't care"
Like I said...life's not fair. Fleury had a pedigree...Talbot doesn't.
 

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Lol at all of you trying to analogize signing a platoon goalie with an every day job.
 

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I'm pretty ambivalent to the whole personal side of this saga. Do I believe Talbot was done a little dirty? Kind of .... but kind of not. He was atrocious for an extended period prior to MAF being brought in. BUT MAF wasn't any better. The problem with this whole situation is that the players agent is, basically, an extension of the players mouth. The conflict escalated by Talbots agent = drama escalated by Talbot. I don't blame Talbot for being angry and insulted, but I also don't blame BG for shipping him out.

All things aside... it's going to be rough the next couple years. Doesn't matter if it's MAF, Talbot, Gus, or Wallstedt in net so I guess I don't really care. I wish Talbot all the best though, no ill will from me.
 

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I'm pretty ambivalent to the whole personal side of this saga. Do I believe Talbot was done a little dirty? Kind of .... but kind of not. He was atrocious for an extended period prior to MAF being brought in. BUT MAF wasn't any better. The problem with this whole situation is that the players agent is, basically, an extension of the players mouth. The conflict escalated by Talbots agent = drama escalated by Talbot. I don't blame Talbot for being angry and insulted, but I also don't blame BG for shipping him out.

All things aside... it's going to be rough the next couple years. Doesn't matter if it's MAF, Talbot, Gus, or Wallstedt in net so I guess I don't really care. I wish Talbot all the best though, no ill will from me.
Yeah, I don't really get the consternation either. Everyone acted in their own interests and more or less got what they wanted :dunno: Is it just because Guerin said "shit"?
 
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My buddy told me he read that Talbot's agent approached Guerin during the draft, on the draft floor which initially started this whole thing. This led to the agent to tweet that Guerin had a lot of thinking to do.
 

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Yeah, I don't really get the consternation either. Everyone acted in their own interests and more or less got what they wanted :dunno: Is it just because Guerin said "shit"?
It's because he said shit, its because he choose his buddy over Talbot, and because's its BG.

...forgetting Talbot had a cold run which is why we went after Fleury in the first place...
 

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It's because he said shit, its because he choose his buddy over Talbot, and because's its BG.

...forgetting Talbot had a cold run which is why we went after Fleury in the first place...
Which all just sounds like typical background drama to me. The difference is that the dopey agent decided to pull a Walsh and slap it on Twitter, so Guerin had to respond in kind.

I don't know, maybe I'm wrong. Just seems like a lot more light than heat with this one.
 
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It's because he said shit, its because he choose his buddy over Talbot, and because's its BG.

...forgetting Talbot had a cold run which is why we went after Fleury in the first place...
Right. Me personally, I'm resigned to the fact that it's going to be rough until that dead cap is gone (really hoping BG had a long term plan to come out swinging once it's done).... if I have to watch a mediocre wild playing bubble playoff hockey... I'd rather watch a mediocre Wild team with MAF in net, dude has the "pedigree" and charisma to spare. Talbot wouldn't have made a difference
 

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Which all just sounds like typical background drama to me. The difference is that the dopey agent decided to pull a Walsh and slap it on Twitter, so Guerin had to respond in kind.

I don't know, maybe I'm wrong. Just seems like a lot more light than heat with this one.
I have exp on the agent side, not in hockey, but related. And yeah, this type of drama is extremely mild. It's basically what you send in emails as a normal part of the conversation.
 
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I have exp on the agent side, not in hockey, but related. And yeah, this type of drama is extremely mild. It's basically what you send in emails as a normal part of the conversation.
BUT he decided to put it out in the public, which was essentially calling GMBG out. IMHO, that's a no-no unless you're trying to force a hand.
 

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At the same time, I really would have not minded a year of a MAF /Talbot tandem. OH well

BUT he decided to put it out in the public, which was essentially calling GMBG out. IMHO, that's a no-no unless you're trying to force a hand.
Exactly... unless he was angling for a trade, that was f***ing insane.

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Exactly... unless he was angling for a trade, that was f***ing insane.

I think that's pretty clearly what he was trying to do. His client is in a contract year and it very well could be the last contract he ever gets. Playing backup to Fleury isn't doing Talbot any favors.
 

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I think that's pretty clearly what he was trying to do. His client is in a contract year and it very well could be the last contract he ever gets. Playing backup to Fleury isn't doing Talbot any favors.
I agree. But then, like bazeek said, everyone ultimately got what they wanted.
 

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Yeah, and prior to the Flower trade... he was utterly TERRIBLE for a long stretch, as was KK behind him. A goaltending move NEEDED to be made to improve the team. The team did improve, and Talbot got a wakeup call. Maybe if he didn't play like utter crap leading up to the trade deadline, the Fleury trade never happens.

Sorry, there is no defense for Talbot here... he wasn't anything special.

Meh... how about none of the above? None of them are a long term starter answer IMO. KK was terrible leading up to his being traded. I had given up on his long term prospects as a starter.
Talbot had a dip after the ASG. But he also went 6-0-0 or something, the last games BEFOFORE the MAF trade. So he did not need the competition.
 

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Talbot had a dip after the ASG. But he also went 6-0-0 or something, the last games BEFOFORE the MAF trade. So he did not need the competition.
His play was terrible, the wins were not because of him, they were in spite of him. After Fluery was picked up, his play did a complete 180
 

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