Sony PS4 #10: The Return of the Ugly Cover

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aleshemsky83

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Really weird. I still have the original I got when the got the system. Other than the R3 being worn down I have had no issues. Bought another one a year ago and that one is perfect.
I still have the original controller too but the battery was junk from day one. Lasts 2-3 hours at most.

New one lasts much longer (though still not long enough)
 

syz

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Only problem with my original DS4 is that apparently R2 doesn't go all the way down, but I only ever noticed it because I couldn't go full speed on a sparrow in Destiny anymore. Other games don't seem to do anything with that.
 

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I’m fighting the desire to start a PS VR thread. The Christmas discount looks to be a permanent pricing scheme now.

Anyone have any opinions? Reviews? Yay nay? Best games to buy?
 

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I’m fighting the desire to start a PS VR thread. The Christmas discount looks to be a permanent pricing scheme now.

Anyone have any opinions? Reviews? Yay nay? Best games to buy?

I have one. Played SuperShot and its one of my favorite games VR or Not. Was crazy fun. Ill be honest though, other games in general have been abit disappointing. I have Moss which people loved. It's not bad but isn't sticking. Eve is OK. PS Worlds is really fun but can be repetitive.

I find myself using it 99% of the time as a screen. My wife is on the couch watching her show, I have the PSVR hooked up and Im playing Fortnite on the screen shown in the PSVR. While not the 1080P of the TV, it is still really good
 

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Hi all,

Im just about ready to pull the trigger on a Playstation. Is it worth it to buy a Pro?

I dont have a 4K TV and do not plan on getting one in the near future. I only care about gameplay performance. Is the upgraded performance worth the additional $150? Like, in a game such as Monster Hunter, is there a significant problem with framerate on the standard PS4? Is every game from here on out going to need a Pro to run adequately?

Convince me one way or the other. That extra money for the Pro could go towards games.

Aside ~ Are there any rumblings of PS5 coming? Should I just wait? I want to get at least two years of meaningful use from this system.

Thanks
 

aleshemsky83

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Its not worth it if you don't have a 4k tv plain and simple. Most games don't even turn the settings up so you're literally just paying for slightly better antialiasing if you don't have a 4k tv

The overwhelming majority of games also don't offer improved frame rates in terms of going from 30 fps to 60. I think the surge is the only notable game that does that off the top of my head.
 

Big McLargehuge

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Hi all,

Im just about ready to pull the trigger on a Playstation. Is it worth it to buy a Pro?

I dont have a 4K TV and do not plan on getting one in the near future. I only care about gameplay performance. Is the upgraded performance worth the additional $150? Like, in a game such as Monster Hunter, is there a significant problem with framerate on the standard PS4? Is every game from here on out going to need a Pro to run adequately?

Convince me one way or the other. That extra money for the Pro could go towards games.

Aside ~ Are there any rumblings of PS5 coming? Should I just wait? I want to get at least two years of meaningful use from this system.

Thanks

Without a 4K TV, or plans to upgrade soon, there's really no reason to get a Pro over the base model. We're closer to the launch of the PS5 than the PS4 to be sure, but I'd be shocked if we see anything firmly pointing to the PS5 until next year's E3. I'd bet you'll get your 2 years out of it.
 

Warden of the North

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Thanks for the advice.

I had thought there were more concerns about new release game performing poorly on the base system. Thats my biggest fear.
 

aleshemsky83

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Thanks for the advice.

I had thought there were more concerns about new release game performing poorly on the base system. Thats my biggest fear.
Most games run fine, few notable games that run poorly are deus ex and just cause 3, but most of the time if a game runs poorly on the base model it's gonna run poorly on the pro too anyways.
 

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So I just beat the Casino palace and my mind is blown right now. I always had suspicion that it was -redacted-, I even found it suspicion during the part where Mona wanted -redacted- way back in the story, though I admit I totally forgot about that part until now. Just the group knowing that something was up and planned accordingly. Awesome twist thus far...
 

Commander Clueless

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Hi all,

Im just about ready to pull the trigger on a Playstation. Is it worth it to buy a Pro?

I dont have a 4K TV and do not plan on getting one in the near future. I only care about gameplay performance. Is the upgraded performance worth the additional $150? Like, in a game such as Monster Hunter, is there a significant problem with framerate on the standard PS4? Is every game from here on out going to need a Pro to run adequately?

Convince me one way or the other. That extra money for the Pro could go towards games.

Aside ~ Are there any rumblings of PS5 coming? Should I just wait? I want to get at least two years of meaningful use from this system.

Thanks

Might go a little against the grain here:

$150 difference is significant, but there is still a difference without worrying about the "resolution mode". Many games will give you a higher frame rate, while others that have trouble maintaining frame rate (seems to be more frequent these days for titles that aren't first party) will sell less of a drop.

For me, this was worth it. I have a 4K TV, but almost never used the resolution mode. To be honest, I didn't notice much of a difference with 4K on the Pro...although I don't have HDR.


In short, is it worth the extra cash? If you're picky about frame rates like me, yes. If you're a normal person or you mostly play first party titles or easier to run titles like indies or something like Persona 5, save yourself the cash.


As for the PS5, there are only wild rumours. I don't think it's a worry yet, but maybe in the next couple years.
 

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I think Spider-Man is a boring character but I may get the game because it’s the team that made Sunset Overdrive. And that game is incredible.
Spider-Man has some of the best villains in all of the Marvel universe let alone the chance of Venom being in the game. If Spider-Man is boring, which I don't entirely disagree with, the bad guys and how glorious the game looks should make up for it.
 
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aleshemsky83

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So those God of War reviews..
Lots of perfect or almost perfect scores. I'm curious to see what makes it so innovative because the gameplay looks very similar to hellblade, even the kid warning you about attacks from behind is very reminiscent of hellblade.

I'm thinking they really wowed with the story and the reviewers didn't want to spoil it.
 

syz

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I didn't hear anything good about Hellblade's combat so I doubt God of War would be getting these scores if it was similar.
 

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Probably a stupid question, but I'm betting the CE and Stone Mason editions are worth their price considering they are probably mediocre pieces of things in it?
 

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Does this gen have the biggest gap between Sony vs. MS? Just look at what each company has put out, and it's not even close really. MS needs to step up their game big time.
 

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Honestly, I don't remember the last time MS had a game like this that gets reviewed this high. Forza maybe? But those are generally the same from year to year.
 

syz

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The most interesting things MS has had over the last few years have been indie games. Inside (not exclusive anymore), Ori, and Cuphead. In terms of big exclusives they've just been making bad bets. Scalebound got cancelled. Crackdown 3 has been in development hell. Sea of Thieves turned out poorly. PUBG was the biggest thing ever, but then as soon as Microsoft invested in it Fortnite started to eat its lunch. They've got Forza, Gears, and Halo, as usual, but those aren't as big as they used to be. They doubled down on hardware because they heard the narrative about how the PS4 was the stronger console for a few years there but I don't think the One X or the Pro have been supported well enough to get anybody to switch just so they can get a higher resolution for multiplatform games.

Meanwhile almost everything Sony does is working out. They're letting their studios do new stuff instead of just having the Killzone team make another Killzone, or just making another formulaic God of War, and it's usually working out for them. Plus they're getting some of the best 3rd party support out of Japan they've ever had, which MS still isn't investing in because they probably know they're never going to get that market anyways.
 

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Does this gen have the biggest gap between Sony vs. MS? Just look at what each company has put out, and it's not even close really. MS needs to step up their game big time.

See my posts above. 2017 killed me as a MS only console owner. The exclusives have just fallen off the map. Im buying a PS4.

The last PS I owned was PS2. Time to go back
 

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I have both an XBOX and PS4 and it's hilarious how many good quality games the PS4 is rattling out compared to the zero from Xbox. Can;t wait for God of War
 

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So I just beat the Casino palace and my mind is blown right now. I always had suspicion that it was -redacted-, I even found it suspicion during the part where Mona wanted -redacted- way back in the story, though I admit I totally forgot about that part until now. Just the group knowing that something was up and planned accordingly. Awesome twist thus far...
I planned on beating the boss and then going to bed after....i think i stayed up for 2 hours playing more. Thats one of my favourit video game twists ever
 
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