Sharks roster discussion

[TomasHertlsRooster]

This is in direct response to LZ, I'm not going to bother quoting the post since it's super long and right above me.

What is the time frame for that data? It's probably not fair to use PPG as the defining number in a comparison against a team whose specialty is drafting elite defensemen.
For example, Ryan Ellis was drafted one year after Tommy Wingels, they have almost similar GP and PPG, yet one is an elite top pairing defenseman and the other is a replacement level 3rd liner.

Regarding all your other points, they're ridiculous. You're saying I can't fault DW for passing on these specific players. Im not saying he had to draft one of these specific guys. I'm saying that he is not drafting players of THIS CALIBER. You asked me to compare him to other GMs. These are GMs of the teams that made it far last year. They are consistently getting players of this caliber in the later rounds. We are not. That is not luck. You can't just say DW is great at drafting and then say he is just unlucky when somebody explains to you why he is not a great drafter.

 

[do0glas]

If jumbo is basically on one leg his ice time has to reflect that.

 

[Lebanezer]

 

[Lebanezer]

 

[Fistfullofbeer]

Kurz had the lineup the Sharks used for Mondays practice in his article.

Kevin Labanc – Joe Thornton – Joe Pavelski
Tomas Hertl – Logan Couture – Mikkel Boedker
Joonas Donskoi – Chris Tierney – Timo Meier
Melker Karlsson – Ryan Carpenter – Jannik Hansen

I am actually fine with that though I would prefer if Boedker and Donskoi switch places.

 

[rangerssharks414]

Kurz had the lineup the Sharks used for Mondays practice in his article.

Kevin Labanc – Joe Thornton – Joe Pavelski
Tomas Hertl – Logan Couture – Mikkel Boedker
Joonas Donskoi – Chris Tierney – Timo Meier
Melker Karlsson – Ryan Carpenter – Jannik Hansen

I am actually fine with that though I would prefer if Boedker and Donskoi switch places.

I'd rather have Couture on the wing and Hertl at center.

 

[Fistfullofbeer]

I'd rather have Couture on the wing and Hertl at center.

I would too but I consider that interchangeable.

 

[Mattb124]

Other than the top line, that is a total mishmash.

 

[Juxtaposer]

Why am I just hearing that Paul Martin had surgery this summer? Was I just not paying attention or did they just never tell us?

 

[rangerssharks414]

Why am I just hearing that Paul Martin had surgery this summer? Was I just not paying attention or did they just never tell us?

That's the first time that I heard about it.

 

[Coily]

I feel like during training camp Pashelka or Kurz said something about it.

 

[Led Zappa]

Why am I just hearing that Paul Martin had surgery this summer? Was I just not paying attention or did they just never tell us?

Many injuries go unreported. Some still have never come out publicly. That's why it's hard for me to argue sometimes about how injured our team is/was, since it can't be posted here, which is probably good in the overall sense. Too much BS would be flying around.

 

[hohosaregood]

I feel like during training camp Pashelka or Kurz said something about it.

They definitely did.

 

[Juxtaposer]

I feel like during training camp Pashelka or Kurz said something about it.

I musta just missed it.

On a completely unrelated note, Joakim Ryan did not have surgery last summer. Just sayin'.

 

[Nighthock]

On a completely unrelated note, Joakim Ryan did not have surgery last summer. Just sayin'.

Ah... I see what ya did there

 

[weastern bias]

Meier-Tierney-Donskoi sounds like a total disaster of a third line

And Boedker is still in the top six (and presumably on the 1st PP unit), I don't like that lineup

 

[hohosaregood]

Meier-Tierney-Donskoi sounds like a total disaster of a third line

And Boedker is still in the top six (and presumably on the 1st PP unit), I don't like that lineup

Meier-Tierney-Donskoi worked out pretty well last year. Agree on Boedker.

 

[Lebanezer]

Meier-Tierney-Donskoi sounds like a total disaster of a third line

And Boedker is still in the top six (and presumably on the 1st PP unit), I don't like that lineup

I'd really like to move on from Boedker, Hansen, Ward and Martin. Besides the overall savings, there are players that can do exactly what those 4 do either in the press box or with the Barracuda. Joakim Ryan can play with Burns, Carpenter and Sorensen can step in and help the PK and overall speed, and Goodrow can certainly play on the 4th line. One thing that has always bothered me about DW is how he calls the league a "copycat league," but he's always one evolutionary step behind.

 

[Internazionale]

Not much to be said about those 4 lines because our forward group is a total crapshoot. No consistency at all so far in 2 games. I want to see Heed on the back end. Galchenyuk has been demoted to the 4th line in Montreal apparently.

 

[Lebanezer]

Not much to be said about those 4 lines because our forward group is a total crapshoot. No consistency at all so far in 2 games. I want to see Heed on the back end. Galchenyuk has been demoted to the 4th line in Montreal apparently.

I would gladly take Galchenyuk. Maybe Montreal wants Hansen and a 1st.

 

[spintheblackcircle]

I would gladly take Galchenyuk. Maybe Montreal wants Hansen and a 1st.

the Sharks first could be a top 5 this year...do not trade it for anything

 

[Lebanezer]

the Sharks first could be a top 5 this year...do not trade it for anything

Conditional and lottery protected of course.

 

[Coily]

Why would Montreal want Hansen?

 

[Lebanezer]

Why would Montreal want Hansen?

To replace Galchenyuk on the wing? I don’t know why Bergevin does anything.

 

[hohosaregood]

Man, the Canadien fans would be so mad about a lottery protected pick.