Confirmed with Link: Sens Hire Le Chiffre aka Guy Boucher, brings the Crawdaddy with him

[Boud]

So, according to the numbers at capfriendly the average contract length that coaches they have info on is 3.75 years, and that includes a couple 1 year show me deals, and Babcocks insanity deal.

Why is it that most GMs don't follow your theory?

I think that you're searching for justification of your preconceived beliefs; The safe play would have been to give the extra year to a known commodity. Not to go with an unknown. If Boudreau failed in year 2 or 3, you'd have a pretty good indication that it was a player personnel issue, and not a coaching one.

What Dorion did was far from the safe pick. He took a risk, and he's owning it like a champ.

Totally agree here. Great post.

I don't think anyone is mad about the Boucher hire, but there definitely is some disappointment that we didn't end up with Boudreau whether he was our first option or not.

The other thing I think is important to take into consideration is that we went with another coach with very limited experience, which is something that we've done for the past 9 years. This could be totally different, and Dorion seems confident about his decision, but in the end if it doesn't work with Boucher, Dorion will have a ton of critics going his way saying that the Sens once again hired a coach that had no experience. Crawford has experience, sure, but nobody knows maybe Boudreau would've wanted him as an assistant ... really we don't know about that so focusing on the HC at least it's a risky decision for Dorion.

If you hire Boudreau, who's the consensus best coach available by pretty much everyone in the hockey world, there isn't much that people can say because you actually got the best coach available with experience and all that comes with it.

Bold move by Dorion, definitely not the safe one as you say. I think there's positives to take out from this, we know at least that Dorion is bold and isn't scared to make his own decisions. Of course that's unless Boudreau's salary demands factored in the decision.

 

[Pancakes Pancakes]

Most GMs are given 3-5 years to give a plan and execute on it.

You give Boudreau 4 years at 3 million as your first move and it fails - that's pretty big.
Any owner is going to look at the GM and think "what?".

If Boucher fails in year 2 or 3 - you can move on.

I'm not saying Dorion and Melnyk were thinking "OMG Boudreau is so ****ing amazing and Boucher is a distant 2nd". I'm sure they really liked Boucher.
But Boudreau had by far the best resume of the options out there. Dorion and Melnyk harped on and on about how they wanted to get an experienced NHL head coach.

I'll repeat it again - I think Dorion went with a safer option (Boucher) in case things go wrong.

Dude, it's the opposite. The safe option was BB. He was seen as the best available option, who wanted to be here (allegedly) and whom every team would have signed if they had the opportunity. That is what you call the safe option.

Not, going against expectations, against what media and public are saying you should do, going with the guy who hasn't been coaching in the NHL. PD went his own way, against what almost everyone was expecting, stepped out of the BB comfort zone. That's what you call TAKING A RISK.

 

[Samsquanch]

Dude, it's the opposite. The safe option was BB. He was seen as the best available option, who wanted to be here (allegedly) and whom every team would have signed if they had the opportunity. That is what you call the safe option.

Not, going against expectations, against what media and public are saying you should do, going with the guy who hasn't been coaching in the NHL. PD went his own way, against what almost everyone was expecting, stepped out of the BB comfort zone. That's what you call TAKING A RISK.

Truth right here.

This is the most exciting part for me in all of this. Its shown me that our GM is not a puppet, he has a mind of his own, and he has the balls to do what he thinks is right.

That's very encouraging for us.

 

[slamigo]

Truth right here.

This is the most exciting part for me in all of this. Its shown me that our GM is not a puppet, he has a mind of his own, and he has the balls to do what he thinks is right.

That's very encouraging for us.

Well, it probably didn't hurt that Boucher would most likely cost way less than BB.

But I agree that the more I reflect, the happier I am with this decision. I'm really willing to give Boucher a chance and am excited to see how the team performs.

 

[PoutineSp00nZ]

Well, it probably didn't hurt that Boucher would most likely cost way less than BB.

But I agree that the more I reflect, the happier I am with this decision. I'm really willing to give Boucher a chance and am excited to see how the team performs.

I doubt that Crawford is getting paid peanuts to be an assistant. Probably not head coach money, but more than your average bear I'd wager.

 

[Iggy77]

Boucher was more impressive in his interview. Is that such a bad thing?
Maybe Bruce didn't want the job that badly if he didn't prepare a detailed five hour presentation.

Boucher set the bar high.

 

[Hale The Villain]

Boucher was more impressive in his interview. Is that such a bad thing?
Maybe Bruce didn't want the job that badly if he didn't prepare a detailed five hour presentation.

Boucher set the bar high.

How prepared do you think Boudreau was going to be? A week ago the man was coaching his team in a game 7.

Boucher had plenty of time to prepare, as a result of being fired by his Swiss league team months ago.

If Boucher wasn't more impressive in his interview than what would that say about how much he wanted the job?

Said it before and I'll say it again, hiring Boucher over Boudreau because he had a better interview was beyond stupid. Dorion made a mistake passing on the more experienced and qualified candidate in favour of the inexperienced, riskier and lesser coach, that happened to have performed better in a job interview, as a result of having much more time to prepare.

 

[PoutineSp00nZ]

How prepared do you think Boudreau was going to be? A week ago the man was coaching his team in a game 7.

Boucher had plenty of time to prepare, as a result of being fired by his Swiss league team months ago.

If Boucher wasn't more impressive in his interview than what would that say about how much he wanted the job?

Said it before and I'll say it again, hiring Boucher over Boudreau because he had a better interview was beyond stupid. Dorion made a mistake passing on the more experienced and qualified candidate in favour of the inexperienced, riskier and lesser coach, that happened to have performed better in a job interview, as a result of having much more time to prepare.

Thinking that Boucher was hired simply because he impressed more in his interview is also beyond stupid

 

[Hale The Villain]

Thinking that Boucher was hired simply because he impressed more in his interview is also beyond stupid

Well surely it wasn't his impressive coaching record that did the trick. Boucher has only 3 NHL seasons under his belt, and only one of those seasons did he make the playoffs. The last 3 seasons he coached in the Swiss league, which is probably the 5th or 6th best league in the world, and didn't have much success there either. His Swiss team actually fired him and then went on to win the championship. Not exactly an impressive resume.

Right from the get-go Dorion stated that they wanted an experienced coach, which made a lot of sense given that we have had 6 different coaches in the last decade. Then he goes out and hires the least experienced coach on the market.

Dorion gave the job to the best interviewee, not the best coach.

 

[PoutineSp00nZ]

Well surely it wasn't his impressive coaching record that did the trick. Boucher has only 3 NHL seasons under his belt, and only one of those seasons did he make the playoffs. The last 3 seasons he coached in the Swiss league, which is probably the 5th or 6th best league in the world, and didn't have much success there either. His Swiss team actually fired him and then went on to win the championship. Not exactly an impressive resume.

Right from the get-go Dorion stated that they wanted an experienced coach, which made a lot of sense given that we have had 6 different coaches in the last decade. Then he goes out and hires the least experienced coach on the market.

Dorion gave the job to the best interviewee, not the best coach.

Or maybe they liked the system he was going to bring in, the people he'd bring with him. His track record, while limited, shows that he did some impressive things with a young tampa team with major holes. Nevermind what he's done in Europe.

You might disagree with the decision, but to suggest he got the job because he charmed Dorian is asinine.

 

[Super Cake]

While Dorion did say he wanted an experienced guy, he also said that he would consider a guy with less experience.

Boucher is our coach. Get over it. I am already over it and look forward to next season.

And it is way too early to suggest Dorion made a mistake. As i said before, Boudreau might be the best coach available, but he might not be the best coach for this team.

 

[Erik Alfredsson]

While Dorion did say he wanted an experienced guy, he also said that he would consider a guy with less experience.

Boucher is our coach. Get over it. I am already over it and look forward to next season.

And it is way too early to suggest Dorion made a mistake. As i said before, Boudreau might be the best coach available, but he might not be the best coach for this team.

Well said. People need to give Boucher a fair chance here and I don't know why people assume the Sens didn't make the right call here. Boucher might prove himself to be a very good coach in Ottawa.

 

[Samsquanch]

Thinking that Boucher was hired simply because he impressed more in his interview is also beyond stupid

this is how I see it

 

[albator71]

I agree lets move on!!! I am very happy with Boucher as our coach, him and Crawford will do a great job I'm sure. If Boudreau is such a great coach why does it get fire everywhere he goes? He last on average 5 years and Boudreau has reach the 3rd round of the playoffs only 1 time in 8 years, so i think Boudreau is living on his reputation during the regular season because in the playoffs he has done nothing. That's all I have to say about Boudreau, I will not talk about him anymore, I will focus all my attention on the Sens and our new coaching staff. GO SENS GO!!!

 

[Micklebot]

Well surely it wasn't his impressive coaching record that did the trick. Boucher has only 3 NHL seasons under his belt, and only one of those seasons did he make the playoffs. The last 3 seasons he coached in the Swiss league, which is probably the 5th or 6th best league in the world, and didn't have much success there either. His Swiss team actually fired him and then went on to win the championship. Not exactly an impressive resume.

Right from the get-go Dorion stated that they wanted an experienced coach, which made a lot of sense given that we have had 6 different coaches in the last decade. Then he goes out and hires the least experienced coach on the market.

Dorion gave the job to the best interviewee, not the best coach.

So when Boudreau was hired by Washington ~10 years ago, did they screw up by not hiring the best coach because he didn't have the experience other candidates did? When the Ducks hired Babcock, did they hire an inferior coach because coaches with better resumes were available? How about when the Blues gave Bowman his first gig?

Sometimes the best coach doesn't have the best resume. You might be right, you might be wrong, I just think it's too early to pass judgement. One guy has an extensive record with cup contender quality rosters that thrived in the regular season but struggled in the playoffs. The other has on great year with a pretty poor roster, and another season and a half where they failed to live up to expectations that were probably set too high due to overachieving the year prior. Not exactly similar situations.

 

[HavlatMach9]

Dorion gave the job to the best interviewee, not the best coach.

he gave the job to whomever he thought would be best for the team

 

[Baby Ryan]

I wonder who the second assistant will be.

Unless there already is one meaning I'm completely lost.

 

[FolignoQuantumLeap]

I would love to sign Sheldon Keef as our other assistant just to spite Toronto and steal a promising young talent. Could be a nice mix of new and old school between him and Crawford.

 

[HispanicAtTheDisco]

I wonder who the second assistant will be.

Unless there already is one meaning I'm completely lost.

Melnyk is going to stop being a meddling owner and instead become a meddling assistant coach.

 

[Senscore]

Crawdaddy?

 

[Pierre from Orleans]

I just hope he backs up what he has said so far. We've heard this story before with Cameron in how that he would make players accountable and that didn't turn out very well.

 

[Senateurs]

Interview with the French Broadcast team.

A lot of the same things he said in the 208 interviews he did since Monday but he expanded on the “accelerated Power play”

He wants to change the mindset on the PP. Most teams will take their time and slow things down because they have 2 mins. When it doesn’t work, the other team gains momentum from the kill.

Instead you up the tempo, try to score or gain momentum off of it.

He also addressed two things that I’ve been complaining about that for years now.

- Our RH vs LH ratio on the PP
- The fact that we don’t have the one-time option with Karlsson.

He puts a lot of importance on who is RH or LH.
Karlsson is too much of a feeder, he needs someone to feed him pucks for one timers




http://uniquefm.ca/infos-unique/nous-travaillerons-dabord-sur-la-defensive

 

[Upgrayedd]

Perhaps it has already been discussed but I don't believe that terms have really been released but does anyone else think that with the recent hiring's, the budget for non players has now been increased? I have to assume having Bouch and Crow and whoever else they pick up on staff may be more expensive then say hiring a Boudreau and his potential lesser known staff. I understand that our guys likely aren't both getting big head coaching sized pay days but I am guessing Crawford isn't exactly the cheapest associate/assistant option and the combined $ total of the staff may be in the upper half of the league's staff's.

Also late to the party but what's the history behind the "Le Chiffre" nickname

 

[BonkTastic]

Also late to the party but what's the history behind the "Le Chiffre" nickname

He looks eerily similar to Mads Mikkelsen's portrayal of the Bond Villain "Le Chiffre", from the movie Casino Royale.

Also: facial scars.

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

Dude, it's the opposite. The safe option was BB. He was seen as the best available option, who wanted to be here (allegedly) and whom every team would have signed if they had the opportunity. That is what you call the safe option.

Not, going against expectations, against what media and public are saying you should do, going with the guy who hasn't been coaching in the NHL. PD went his own way, against what almost everyone was expecting, stepped out of the BB comfort zone. That's what you call TAKING A RISK.

What if....there was no safe option?

The more I think of it, the less appealing Boudreau looks. Dude is basically the coach version of a UFA looking for the last big payday before retirement. He was a good coach for a long time, but the way the league is changing, who knows if Boudreau would've done for us.

Boucher is somewhat unproven, and is a risk as well. But, it's mitigated somewhat by Crawford (hopefully).

Either choice was a risk. Same with Yeo or Hartley....or anyone else.

Well said. People need to give Boucher a fair chance here and I don't know why people assume the Sens didn't make the right call here. Boucher might prove himself to be a very good coach in Ottawa.

Feels like most folks are on board with Boucher.

I'm happy. I still miss Paulrus, but Boucher is going to be better than Cameron. I'm really interested to see the Boucher-Crawford interaction behind the bench. It could be just like when Roger Neilson started using video as a teaching tool back in the day....it could be so successful, it causes a coaching revolution in the NHL.