The people I really feel sorry for are the Canadian citizens who helped pay millions in grants and guaranteed loans and "tax adjustments" to keep this failing club in Ontario. What a waste.
Do you ever get tired of the same old spiel?
Plenty of teams would still love to be in Ottawa's situation.
Get back to us when Ottawa starts offering dirt-cheap tickets and only gets 10k fans at the games and only 2k people are watching on TV... then you'll have a point. Otherwise, this is pretty minor and certainly temporary.
False, and doesn't address the "tax adjustments" (read:subsidies) either.Yup. The Canadian tax payers that paid a grand total of zero towards this building of the CTC.
Meanwhile the Sens had to pay for the interchange
False, and doesn't address the "tax adjustments" (read:subsidies) either.
Paid for with federally backed/guaranteed loans when they were unable to secure funding. Let's not forget that bit. Adds colour to the black and white picture you're painting
Ottawa should have never had an NHL team. No more teams in Canada, we need to grow the game.
Ottawa Senators owner Eugene Melnyk says he will reduce capacity at the Canadian Tire Centre in hopes of increasing demand for season tickets. (Adrian Wyld/Canadian Press)
Ottawa Senators owner Eugene Melnyk believes less could mean more.
Tired of seeing too many empty seats, the NHL club has made the decision to reduce capacity at Canadian Tire Centre by 1,500 to about 17,000. Rows in the upper bowl have been covered with tarps.
"The attendance shifts have been dramatic over a period of two decades," Melnyk told reporters Thursday. "The whole trend now is less seats and more clubs and frankly smaller stadiums.
"When you look at things like a new stadium downtown, we're not going to build a 20,000-seat stadium. It will probably be closer to 15,000-17,000 in there."
Melnyk and team president Tom Anselmi wouldn't reveal season ticket numbers but the two are hopeful that by removing seats fans will feel the need to purchase season tickets with the potential of there being fewer tickets available on a walk-up basis.
There is snow there.... its a traditional market... Canada is a hotbed of Hockey interest... Hockey is so very popular in Canada they sell out virtually every game and have wait lists...
Or so we in the Sun Belt have been led to believe.
Yeah this doesn't make a lot of sense. Sure it looks bad when there's 2000 empty seats for a 2nd round PO game. But ignore the haters and just move on. Given the issues they already have in selling tickets (gov city, phoenix pay issues, crap arena location), I don't see how removing seats is going to help them in any way.
Well... not to mention that quite a bit of those bureaucrats/contractors do not really care about the Sens in the first place.
Ottawa should have never had an NHL team. No more teams in Canada, we need to grow the game.
Ottawa is a government town and quite honestly has trouble selling out anything, real estate here is as pricey as Toronto or Vancouver's, but unlike those two cities, most of the working stiffs have predictable if not down right pedestrian incomes. Those incomes do not support a whole lot of Senator games for a family four.
I'm in a group of 6 guys who buy 4 seasons tickets at the 200 level on the blueline which costs each individual $2500+ just for the seat and we work out which games we want and don't want, works out to seeing 25 or so games a year, or @100 bucks a game before you park, eat and drink
Uh..... they've already been there and done that. On numerous occasions.
Pedestrian implies they aren't paid well. True, government salaries are much lower than the private sector, but they're still quite high and income is comparable to Toronto and Vancouver.
Ottawa is a government town and quite honestly has trouble selling out anything, real estate here is as pricey as Toronto or Vancouver's, but unlike those two cities, most of the working stiffs have predictable if not down right pedestrian incomes. Those incomes do not support a whole lot of Senator games for a family four.
I'm in a group of 6 guys who buy 4 seasons tickets at the 200 level on the blueline which costs each individual $2500+ just for the seat and we work out which games we want and don't want, works out to seeing 25 or so games a year, or @100 bucks a game before you park, eat and drink
When the double standard stops I will! See the "dirt Cheap" tickets link below from 2014Do you ever get tired of the same old spiel?
Plenty of teams would still love to be in Ottawa's situation.
Get back to us when Ottawa starts offering dirt-cheap tickets and only gets 10k fans at the games and only 2k people are watching on TV... then you'll have a point. Otherwise, this is pretty minor and certainly temporary.
when were these dirt cheap ticket prices? Leafs fan in ottawa and i'd go to sens games if tickets were cheap enough.
If the dollar was even i bet 75% of us based teams would love to be in ottawa. (mod)
I don't understand why it was ever a "thing" that you put your stadium/arena out in the suburbs. Sure, land is cheaper but you've saying money in the short run at the expense of long term ticket revenue (even if you do well attendance wise, you could and should charge more for tickets in a downtown venue).
When the double standard stops I will! See the "dirt Cheap" tickets link below from 2014
They had even cheaper ticket deals last year but the link not longer works
It the Senators actually played in Ottawa
I don't understand why it was ever a "thing" that you put your stadium/arena out in the suburbs. Sure, land is cheaper but you've saying money in the short run at the expense of long term ticket revenue (even if you do well attendance wise, you could and should charge more for tickets in a downtown venue). Once/if they move to the LeBreton Flats they'll do better.
Ottawa is a government town and quite honestly has trouble selling out anything, real estate here is as pricey as Toronto or Vancouver's, but unlike those two cities, most of the working stiffs have predictable if not down right pedestrian incomes. Those incomes do not support a whole lot of Senator games for a family four.
If there were real fans in Ontario, they'd make the drive. Everyone has to drive to see a game. Just not enough real fans. Nothing against Ottawa fans, who I'm sure are very passionate, there just aren't enough of you. The market isn't viable. Can't wait 'til they finally contract this abomination.
There was one in the Coca-Cola section for 20 bucks last year. I am sure they will have some more "Dirt Cheap" ticket deals this season.The following year it was a ticket and BigMac meal for $35.