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no we are not.. I know its in jest but we wont.. and if we take him at 5-7 not that bad
If we take him at 5-7 it means Bouchard, Dobson, Wahlstrom, Bokk, Veleno, Smith, Hughes are all on the board still. No thanks
no we are not.. I know its in jest but we wont.. and if we take him at 5-7 not that bad
Hey our prospects made a top 50 list this year .,. Just forwards though
Top Prospects: The Forwards
Does anybody else think that our AHL team is so void of talent for developing the prospects that they are being funneled into bottom 6 specialists .. Do young players with talent not have to be surrounded by more talented AHL players to develop or hone that part of their skillset? If the guy playing next to you has a hard time playing any kind of possession game , but is really good at picking up a puck a center ice and firing it in the Ozone and chasing it. I am starting to think that the lack of skill down there is actually doing a disservice to our prospects.
McGuire again today mentioned Colin White.. and I can see him shaking his head on how he is being developed.
lol Selleck will be ahead of them on the depth chartIt's a big concern for me how the promising prospects are being used in the AHL. Next season it's a no-brainer to have Brown and Batherson on the first line and give them lots of ice-time but that seems doubtful if KK is still in charge.
How we develop players is awful.
I cannot say for sure as to the reason, but the game before Chlapik took a penalty with 6 minutes left in the game... The Sens ended up losing that close game ... KK mentioned untimely penalties and something about coming from the same players in his post game... maybe its just a coincidence.Pretty sure Chlapik ended up playing that game though. But to even consider healthy scratching him is mind boggling
Yup, there’s some awful management going down there. We should be looking at how Tampa develops players in Syracuse. There’s no way you can tell me Cirelli and Stephens are better prospects than White & Chlapik, yet they are producing great and leading the team.Pretty sure Chlapik ended up playing that game though. But to even consider healthy scratching him is mind boggling
Yea exactly. I really wanted us to look into Brisebois(Syracuse Gm) instead of promoting Dorion from within.Yup, there’s some awful management going down there. We should be looking at how Tampa develops players in Syracuse. There’s no way you can tell me Cirelli and Stephens are better prospects than White & Chlapik, yet they are producing great and leading the team.
Hey our prospects made a top 50 list this year .,. Just forwards though
Top Prospects: The Forwards
Does anybody else think that our AHL team is so void of talent for developing the prospects that they are being funneled into bottom 6 specialists .. Do young players with talent not have to be surrounded by more talented AHL players to develop or hone that part of their skillset? If the guy playing next to you has a hard time playing any kind of possession game , but is really good at picking up a puck a center ice and firing it in the Ozone and chasing it. I am starting to think that the lack of skill down there is actually doing a disservice to our prospects.
McGuire again today mentioned Colin White.. and I can see him shaking his head on how he is being developed.
It's a big concern for me how the promising prospects are being used in the AHL. Next season it's a no-brainer to have Brown and Batherson on the first line and give them lots of ice-time but that seems doubtful if KK is still in charge.
Hey our prospects made a top 50 list this year .,. Just forwards though
Top Prospects: The Forwards
Does anybody else think that our AHL team is so void of talent for developing the prospects that they are being funneled into bottom 6 specialists .. Do young players with talent not have to be surrounded by more talented AHL players to develop or hone that part of their skillset? If the guy playing next to you has a hard time playing any kind of possession game , but is really good at picking up a puck a center ice and firing it in the Ozone and chasing it. I am starting to think that the lack of skill down there is actually doing a disservice to our prospects.
McGuire again today mentioned Colin White.. and I can see him shaking his head on how he is being developed.
Where would you have them on that list? White is 39, Chlapik 47th. Not sure I'd have either Formenton or Batherson ahead of them, particuarly if you weight NHL readiness heavilyNo Batherson? No Formenton?
No Batherson? No Formenton?
Where their talent ends up is usually up to the player that decides that, isn't it? If certain players have the talent to move up in the lineup or to get more minutes they have to show they deserve it. I don't think it's right either to put players in positions where they could fail pretty badly either, for example expecting Brown or Batherson to carry Belleville next season sounds unrealistic.
IMO we have a few top six prospects coming & a few bottom six players in Belleville. Ottawa needs both & where or how they develop while important should be left to the professionals to best gauge that. Is it more important that the minor league team has a successful season or that the prospects are developing in a successful manner?
IMO Paul & Gagne are probably 4th line players with 3rd line potential. White, Perron, Luchuk, Kelly, Formenton & Chlapik are probably 3rd line players with 2nd line potential. Brown & Batherson are prbably 2nd line potential with top line potential & we may get another top six forward in this upcoming draft.
??? - Brown - Batherson
Perron - White - Kelly
Formenton - Chlapik - Luchuk
??? - Paul - Gagne
Chabot in almost everybody's opinion is a top pairing defenceman, while Pokka, Wolanin & Lajoe is have 2nd pairing potential. Englund, Jaros & Harpur are probably 3rd pairinf defencemen with 2nd pairing potential. Again a little bit of everything which is good depth.
Chabot - Pokka
Lajoie - Jaros
Englund - Harpur/Wollanin
In net, they have Hogberg as probably a good backup with #1 potential & Gustvasson who is being talked about as a future #1 goalie. Dreidger & maybe one of the other guys could be a good callup.
Gustvasson - Hogberg/Dreidger
They seem to have depth at every position in the organization but what they haven't done at the minor league level is have some collective success in a while. While they are not meshing as a team, individually their are a lot of good stories happening with the prospects.
I think it is way too much to ask to rookies to carry the team as their top line players. Is it more important for the AHL team to have success every season or to develop players so that when they get to the NHL, they are well prepared to be more successful there? Development should be more important than team success at the AHL level, otherwise why wouldn't they just sign the best AHL players, if that was more important.
Hmm that move looks familiar...
IMO they take this yr's pick if it is in the top 10 & it look like it will be. They will have an entire yr to try & get another 1st rd pick for next yr & considering what could transpire this summer they could get one by trading Karlsson or Pageau or Ceci next season. They are in a good spot right now to get a good player so they should take it now & let's see what happens between now & the next draft.
Well they have Karlsson who is already considered the best defenceman in the NHL & they are in second last place. It will take more than one defenceman & who knows how he will turn out. There are a number of good young players who could help this franchise in the top 10 & hopefully with good scouting the Sens get a very good player or the BPA.
“Every game is tough, almost every guy down here plays like Max McCormick. You can’t hide. Young guys need that.”
Well its obvious that he means that a lot of guys play a harder brand of hockey in the AHL and you can't be sheltered down there.Warrenspiece: Looking at a future Stone contract, checking in on Colin White, and how about them Panthers?
Interesting quote from how KK sees it ...
Now is he saying that for every team ? I don't think so.. no way he'd say that about guys like Sprong and Guenzel (from last year) .. or Kapanen or Gourde for example .. He has to be talking about the Sens,..right?... So is that what we want? A team full of Max McCormicks .. He's the measuring stick? ..
He gets to be a big fish in a little pond and it’s not like he’s dominating down here,” said Kleinendorst. “Every game is tough, almost every guy down here plays like Max McCormick. You can’t hide. Young guys need that.”
“He gets to be a big fish in a little pond and it’s not like he’s dominating down here,” said Kleinendorst. “Every game is tough, almost every guy down here plays like Max McCormick. You can’t hide. Young guys need that.”
In terms of under the radar performers, Kleinendorst is high on stay-at-home defenceman Patrick Sieloff. Don’t be surprised if Sieloff, 23, receives a late-season call-up to the NHL.
On the one hand, I am distrustful of the minor league development system that allows guys like Chlapik to be scratched and Gagne buried in the depth chart. However, how much has changed since Hoffman and Stone graduated? I really feel those guys were seasoned properly before entering the league, and I'm not sure if any of the staff were radically different back then.
9 | Matt Puempel | LW | L | 6-1 | 205 | Jan 24, 1993 | Essex, ON |
10 | Buddy Robinson | RW | R | 6-6 | 232 | Sep 30, 1991 | Bellmawr, NJ |
11 | Danny Hobbs | F | R | 6-0 | 200 | Jun 21, 1989 | Shawville, QC |
15 | Cole Schneider | LW | L | 6-1 | 200 | Aug 26, 1990 | Williamsville, NY |
16 | Mark Stone | RW | R | 6-3 | 203 | May 13, 1992 | Winnipeg, MB |
20 | Andre Petersson | RW | R | 5-9 | 177 | Sep 11, 1990 | Olofstrom, Sweden |
22 | David Dziurzynski | LW | L | 6-3 | 228 | Oct 6, 1989 | Lloydminster, AB |
23 | Corey Cowick | LW | L | 6-3 | 214 | Aug 1, 1989 | Gloucester, ON |
24 | Stephane Da Costa | C | R | 5-11 | 185 | Jul 11, 1989 | Paris, France |
36 | Wacey Hamilton | C | L | 5-11 | 184 | Sep 10, 1990 | Cochrane, AB |
37 | Darren Kramer | LW | L | 6-1 | 210 | Nov 19, 1991 | Peace River, AB |
57 | Derek Grant | C | L | 6-3 | 205 | Apr 20, 1990 | Abbotsford, BC |
17 | Garrett Thompson | C | R | 6-2 | 191 | Mar 7, 1990 | Traverse City, MI |
18 | Shane Prince | LW | L | 5-11 | 193 | Nov 16, 1992 | Spencerport, NY |
19 | Jim O'Brien | C | R | 6-2 | 221 | Jan 29, 1989 | Maplewood, MN |
21 | Ryan Dzingel | F | R | 6-0 | 196 | Mar 9, 1992 | Wheaton, IL |
25 | Vincent Dunn | F | L | 5-11 | 195 | Sep 14, 1995 | Hull, QC |
27 | Mike Hoffman | LW | L | 5-11 | 176 | Nov 24, 1989 | Kitchener, ON |
41 | Jakub Culek | LW | L | 6-3 | 187 | Sep 7, 1992 | Plzen, Czech Rep. |
44 | Jean-Gabriel Pageau | C | R | 5-9 | 171 | Nov 11, 1992 | Ottawa, ON |
45 | Ludwig Karlsson | F | L | 6-3 | 190 | Jan 6, 1991 | Stockholm, SWE |
93 | Mika Zibanejad | C | R | 6-2 | 200 | Apr 18, 1993 | Huddinge, Sweden |
As is a yearly tradition, we release mini-reports on the top 40 college free agents. Here is the first set. (done alphabetically)
Top 2018 College Hockey Free Agents - Last Word on Hockey
Top 2018 College Hockey Free Agents, Part Two - Last Word on Hockey
Top 2018 College Hockey Free Agents Part Three - Last Word on Hockey