Prospect Info: Senators Prospects Watch 2017/2018

Discussion in 'Ottawa Senators' started by starling, Oct 5, 2017.

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Which 2017 prospect will break out this season?

Poll closed Nov 5, 2017.
  1. Bowers

    7.0%
  2. Formenton

    38.6%
  3. Batherson

    42.1%
  4. Kelly

    3.5%
  5. Other

    8.8%
  1. starling

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    New season, new thread.
    All non-NHL/AHL prospect updates are here.


    HF RankProspectPositionDraft year#TeamLinks
    3Logan BrownLW201611Kitchener Rangers, OHLhockeydb
    eliteprospects
    ohl
    13Alex FormentonLW201747London Knights, OHLhockeydb
    eliteprospects
    ohl
    14Christian WolaninD2015107University of North Dakota, NCAAhockeydb
    eliteprospects
    collegehockeyinc
    17Drake BathersonC2017121Blainville-Boisbriand Armada, QMJHLhockeydb
    eliteprospects
    qmjhl
    19Markus NurmiRW2016163TPS, Liigahockeydb
    eliteprospects
    liiga
    20Miles GendronD201470University of Connecticut, NCAAhockeydb
    eliteprospects
    collegehockeyinc
    21Filip AhlLW2015109Örebro HK, SHL
    Örebro HK J20, SuperElit
    hockeydb
    eliteprospects
    shl
    22Jordan HollettG2017183Medicine Hat Tigers, WHLhockeydb
    eliteprospects
    whl
    24Joel DaccordG2015199Arizona State University, NCAAhockeydb
    eliteprospects
    collegehockeyinc
    25Kelly SummersD2014189Clarkson University, NCAAhockeydb
    eliteprospects
    collegehockeyinc
    26Todd BurgessRW2016103RPI, NCAAhockeydb
    eliteprospects
    collegehockeyinc
    -Parker KellyC2017-Prince Albert Raiders, WHLhockeydb
    eliteprospects
    whl
    -Aaron LuchukC2017-Barrie Colts, OHLhockeydb
    eliteprospects
    ohl
     
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    Kelly again.... more text book dzone coverage
     
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    Looks like Nurmi can shoot
     
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    Batherson with the only goal again. Looks like no one else is capable to score on this Eagles team.
     
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    Batherson's icetime and confidence are going to go thru the roof
     
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    Our offence (Cape Bretons) starts and ends with Drake. The only time we have sustained puck control is when he's on the ice. Clearly a difference maker at major junior. Great for his development. Half his time on the ice he seems to have the puck on his stick.
     
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    Batherson is very legit.

    This isn't a Filip Ahl situation where some thought he was becoming a legit guy because of his start in Regina last year.

    Batherson was an old rookie in the CHL last year. 18 year olds starting their 1st CHL season are rarely, if ever legit NHL prospects. It's rare enough for 17 year old rookies.

    Ryan Johansen is a guy who fits that bill. He was a 17 year old rookie in Portland. He jumped up the rankings and quickly became a guy who was showing very projectile assets. He, however, did this in his rookie/draft season (as I said, not common but does happen every year).

    Batherson, on the other hand, spent his NHL draft year as a mediocre player in the Maritime league, something many, many nobodies do every year. This is a league where me and my friends played at the same age and did as well or better statistically.

    His jump to viable NHL prospect has been huge, not just statistically, but looking at his projectables. He has the size, skating, I.Q and skills to be able to fit into any teams future.

    I don't know Drake at all, but I know his father well, and he comes from a very good family. His dad will help him become the best player he can be, and teach him how to be a professional in every sense of the word.

    I have zero worries about Batherson, he is a gamer.
     
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    So....how did it happen? How did Batherson suddenly make that jump? Did he do something different over the summer?
     
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    Maturation? Abnormal development curve?

    I don't have the answer to that. But one thing I'm certain of, to go from being a mediocre player in one of the worst Junior A leagues in Canada at 17, to a ppg player in the QMJHL at 18, to a very legitimate pro prospect at 19 is not something that happens often. These types are usually the guys that end up undrafted free agents in the NCAA, their development later is much longer and less significant.

    Zack Smith was drafted as a 19 year old WHL player. He was in his 4th WHL season before he had his breakout, which is typical of many guys in the CHL, it's a 19 year olds league. Batherson came in as an 18 year old rookie and showed massive improvements from his 17 year old MJAHL season. Now, in his 19 year old season, he seems to made massive strides again. That bodes very well in a prospect.
     
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    According to some scouting reports I was reading after the draft, he grew something like 4 inches. Going from 5'9 to 6'1 probably changes your ability to win puck battles.
     
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    Yup and your reach gets pretty broader as well.
     
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    If you look back he was always skilled. Finished second in Nova Scotia major midget scoring his second year in the league which after that season he got drafted to the Q but it's one thing to put up points and be a skill guy when your a little player in a little league.

    His first go round in camp at Cape Breton he was still a little kid trying to play that midget game in major junior. Doesn't translate to success. His next year he came back bigger and stronger and was willing to go to the dirty areas but still had that little guy skill and vision.
     
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    Wasn't that Formenton who grew like a weed? Or did Batherson do it too?

    Reason I ask, is to figure out if there's a 'eureka' moment here...something to look for with kids passed over in the draft, or perhaps a possible change that can be made to help other prospects. If something works for one kid to dramatically improve his game (if he made a change in training/coaching/systems of some sort), then there might be a way to implement the same thing with other kids.

    And it's just a darn good story, too.
     
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    Clearly far too early to read too much in to these early returns but damn...the Senators may have just had one of those drafts that propels a team up the rankings in a few years...just having the depth of players from drafting alone is huge.
     
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    Is batherson playing center? right from dev camp the guy looked so good.
     
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    Another 2nd year eligible draft pick from 2017 having a good start
     
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    Bratherson is soooo creative. We need more of that.

    What's more is that he quite clearly wants to be THE guy.
     
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    ALEKSI HEPONIEMI
    Heponiemi having a great start as well. Another 2nd round draft pick
     
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    Formenton was this summer. Batherson was last summer.
     

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