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[Lunatik]

I think you're right. Another lockout is probably inevitable. I think both parties will opt out though.

iirc just the NHLPA can opt out and they have to notify the NHL by Sept 15th, 2019 if they are going to do so.

 

[Calculon]

[FIELDSET="Next Lockout"]This CBA is a 10-year agreement, but both can choose to opt out after 8 years. The NHL will have first crack to do so by Sept. 1, 2019. If they decline, the NHLPA can decide to opt out by Sept. 19, 2019. The 10-year deal expires Sept. 15, 2022. Start your lockout war chests.[/FIELDSET]

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Another lockout is a virtual guarantee (simply put, it's ownership+Bettman's best tool to get what they want) but neither side will want the stigma of being the ones that initiated it early. So six more years of hockey until the next shortened or missed season.

 

[Lunatik]

[FIELDSET="Next Lockout"]This CBA is a 10-year agreement, but both can choose to opt out after 8 years. The NHL will have first crack to do so by Sept. 1, 2019. If they decline, the NHLPA can decide to opt out by Sept. 19, 2019. The 10-year deal expires Sept. 15, 2022. Start your lockout war chests.[/FIELDSET]

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Another lockout is a virtual guarantee (simply put, it's ownership+Bettman's best tool to get what they want) but neither side will want the stigma of being the ones that initiated it early. So six more years of hockey until the next shortened or missed season.

thanks Calc

 

[Bouma Fett*]

If it happens early, I think it's going to be the owners. The PA will wait for it to expire.

The owners will want to do something to ban the "buyout proof" contracts that they've been giving out with the excessive signing bonuses. That's going to be one of their big things in the next lockout I believe

 

[Lunatik]

If it happens early, I think it's going to be the owners. The PA will wait for it to expire.

The owners will want to do something to ban the "buyout proof" contracts that they've been giving out with the excessive signing bonuses. That's going to be one of their big things in the next lockout I believe

and the players will want either a higher percentage of HRR or new items to count as HRR. Don't kid yourself the players union are every bit as much greedy pieces of **** as the owners.

 

[Dertell]

If it happens early, I think it's going to be the owners. The PA will wait for it to expire

The owners will want to do something to ban the "buyout proof" contracts that they've been giving out with the excessive signing bonuses. That's going to be one of their big things in the next lockout I believe

Why not just not hand out those deals instead? Honest question.

 

[Kahvi]

Why not just not hand out those deals instead? Honest question.

It's called negotiations

In a way, GM's are fighting each other within the rules of the current CBA. Some of the rules are not good for the owners, so they want to improve the situation. A single GM cant just decide to not give signing bonuses, because others will as that will help them to sign UFA's.

 

[Unlimited Chequing]

iirc just the NHLPA can opt out and they have to notify the NHL by Sept 15th, 2019 if they are going to do so.

[FIELDSET="Next Lockout"]This CBA is a 10-year agreement, but both can choose to opt out after 8 years. The NHL will have first crack to do so by Sept. 1, 2019. If they decline, the NHLPA can decide to opt out by Sept. 19, 2019. The 10-year deal expires Sept. 15, 2022. Start your lockout war chests.[/FIELDSET]

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Another lockout is a virtual guarantee (simply put, it's ownership+Bettman's best tool to get what they want) but neither side will want the stigma of being the ones that initiated it early. So six more years of hockey until the next shortened or missed season.

So what exactly does "opt out" mean with regards to the CBA?

 

[Anglesmith]

So what exactly does "opt out" mean with regards to the CBA?

Presumably that the agreement is terminated, and until a new one is reached, the league is locked out.

 

[Lunatik]

So what exactly does "opt out" mean with regards to the CBA?

If either Side lots out then on Sept. 15, 2020 the CBA will expire.

Now this doesn't 100% mean there will be a l,ockout because they can work under the old rules until an agreement is reached. But since 1994 (baseball players union went on strike in the final month of the season and cost them the World Series) no league will trust a players union to play without a VBA, especially the NHL since the weasel running the NHLPA now is the one that ran the baseball union in 1994.

TL;DR - it's doesn't guarantee a lockout but makes it 99.99% likely

 

[Pirate King Luffy]

It's called negotiations

In a way, GM's are fighting each other within the rules of the current CBA. Some of the rules are not good for the owners, so they want to improve the situation. A single GM cant just decide to not give signing bonuses, because others will as that will help them to sign UFA's.

Yeah, but owners have the final say. They are shooting themselves in the foot.

 

[Kahvi]

Yeah, but owners have the final say. They are shooting themselves in the foot.

Yes, but that's because signing bonuses are included in the CBA and players want them. Owners don't want to give them, but sometimes they don't have a choice. That's why they probably want to get rid of them through new CBA.

 

[Bouma Fett*]

29 owners could say they won't give them. Then one will do it in order to get the player they want signed. Then other owners will have to offer them to be able to sign players, etc

One gm will always take advantage.