Value of: Scoring FWD to Anaheim

[Zegs2sendhelp]

I really think Anaheim and Montreal should hook up after the expansion draft . We will be willing to over pay on lindholm and provide some quality players and futures for your rebuild .

I’m guessing what Montreal fans think is overpaying isn’t close to what Anaheim would want in an over payment.

 

[Mrfenn92]

When Armia is healthy, I would consider Armia for a 1st. We can also talk sign/trade but if you want permission to have an extension in place before the trade, Price goes up

I feel the Habs can live without Armia with Perry in his spot right now. And not sure we can afford to keep him after this season

@HabsAddict

Apologies from me had my Habs handle wrong

 

[HabsAddict]

@HabsAddict

Apologies from me had my Habs handle wrong

Accepted.

Also kudos that you went through to find the original poster and apologize.

BTW.....Armia is a physical beast but he's got sub par shooting and average vision. He's got exactly the same size as Josh Anderson but a fraction ov the offence. But....he can pot 20 if given the right line mates.

So what is his value? For us, 2.5 million as a 3rd/4th liner. On a trade without a contract, his value is higher to us then a trade for a 3rd. Someone values him enough and wants to sign him long term, we need a second to offset the playoff value to us.

If we were non playoff team then to us, his value is lower.

Trades are not straight lines.....

 

[Mrfenn92]

Accepted.

Also kudos that you went through to find the original poster and apologize.

BTW.....Armia is a physical beast but he's got sub par shooting and average vision. He's got exactly the same size as Josh Anderson but a fraction ov the offence. But....he can pot 20 if given the right line mates.

So what is his value? For us, 2.5 million as a 3rd/4th liner. On a trade without a contract, his value is higher to us then a trade for a 3rd. Someone values him enough and wants to sign him long term, we need a second to offset the playoff value to us.

If we were non playoff team then to us, his value is lower.

Trades are not straight lines.....

Man enough to admit my Mistakes
Cheers

 

[go4hockey]

When Armia is healthy, I would consider Armia for a 1st. We can also talk sign/trade but if you want permission to have an extension in place before the trade, Price goes up

I feel the Habs can live without Armia with Perry in his spot right now. And not sure we can afford to keep him after this season

no team is sending a 1st for Armia and for sure not a team that is rebuilding and will have a high 1st. But dream on I guess

 

[rockinghockey]

Henrique and Silver are bad contracts. Never understood why the GM just didn’t let them walk. ANA should be trading all their vets for picks and just get as many picks as possible. Rackell take what you can for him maybe a team might give you a late first as he hasn’t produced anything the last few years. Fowler would be your best bet for a good return just do it and rebuild.

 

[Techcoockie]

Why would the Ducks trade Rakell if the are looking for a scoring forward? Heck... if Rakell was really available... the Oilers would be interested.

Oilers being interested and the Oilers actually doing something is 2 totally different thing.

 

[Techcoockie]

no team is sending a 1st for Armia and for sure not a team that is rebuilding and will have a high 1st. But dream on I guess

Armia is worth a late first, simply due to his puck proitection skills and size.

Look at what Colemen got in return...

 

[bernmeister]

Trouba out 4-6 wks

what is status of Manson?

 

[lwvs84]

Trouba out 4-6 wks

what is status of Manson?

Last we heard, he was going to be out 6 weeks. That was about 4+ weeks ago I think? He should be back in the next week and a half to two weeks assuming no setbacks.

 

[WhatTheDuck]

Trouba out 4-6 wks

what is status of Manson?

The latest update on his recovery from an oblique injury was a week ago. Apparently he's right on track with the timeline set out for his recovery (six weeks) and should be ready to go around the start of March.

 

[McJedi]

Scoring forward? There is this guy Zegras. He’s interesting.

 

[bernmeister]

The latest update on his recovery from an oblique injury was a week ago. Apparently he's right on track with the timeline set out for his recovery (six weeks) and should be ready to go around the start of March.

thanks for prompt courtesy reply
means while potentially useful thru next season, not good for immediate help as to Trouba down. comparable timetables.

Was hoping for a Buch + Strome package w/Manson possible $ the other way. NY would need futures -- pref picks -- for core of balance other way.

 

[voxel]

Oilers being interested and the Oilers actually doing something is 2 totally different thing.

Last deadline, Holland trade two 2nds for AA and a pick for Mike Green. In the past we traded Hall for Larsson (and Eberle for Strome).... so shakeups aren't unexpected.

However the team needs a bonafide #1 goalie. Scoring is a super nice luxury.

 

[Unbiased Fan]

Good luck finding a better asset than Armia in the trade market. What do you have on the table to trade with? Armia has been a 20 goal pace over the last 3 seasons. You looking for a 25+ or 30+ guy? Good luck with that

They could probably get Taylor Hall for the price you’re asking for Armia. Armia is worth a 2nd tops.

 

[Unbiased Fan]

Fine. Good luck finding a 25+ goal guy in season on the trade market

Taylor Hall, JVR, Pavel Buchnevich, JT Miller, Phil Kessel, Etc......

 

[Gliff]

Henrique and Silver are bad contracts. Never understood why the GM just didn’t let them walk. ANA should be trading all their vets for picks and just get as many picks as possible. Rackell take what you can for him maybe a team might give you a late first as he hasn’t produced anything the last few years. Fowler would be your best bet for a good return just do it and rebuild.

You clearly do not know the Ducks situation.

Neither are bad contracts. Silfverberg is a 20-25 goal middle six winger with a stud 2-way game.
I have no problem at all paying him what he is making.
Henrique literally just had the best offensive season of his career on an anemic Ducks offense. He is maybe overpaid by 850k.

Armia is worth a late first, simply due to his puck proitection skills and size.

Look at what Colemen got in return...

Shit, I hope he gets a first as a rental. Because as a seller, the Ducks can get a ton of value for their players.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Tyler Johnson

It would be a cold day in hell, Before Tyler Johnson would waive for Anaheim. Just the high California taxes alone would kill him.

 

[patriotfan]

Anaheim needs scoring help, missed out on Dubois and Kapanen, who's available ?

would they move their goalie gibson to get forwards, maybe leafs can help

 

[dracom]

would they move their goalie gibson to get forwards, maybe leafs can help

no. then we start losing games 6-3 instead of losing them 2-1 or winning them 2-0.

 

[belair]

Oilers being interested and the Oilers actually doing something is 2 totally different thing.

The Oilers don't need scoring forwards. They need a young guy that can be an effective third liner.

On the other hand, if Anaheim is shopping Gibson, I'd probably start looking at Carolina's prospects because their package is going to better than anyone else's.

Jake Bean ++

 

[WhatTheDuck]

The Oilers don't need scoring forwards. They need a young guy that can be an effective third liner.

On the other hand, if Anaheim is shopping Gibson, I'd probably start looking at Carolina's prospects because their package is going to better than anyone else's.

Jake Bean ++

Is this a joke? Why on earth would Anaheim ever consider that? Bean is no where remotely close to a good enough centerpiece, and a LHD is the absolute last thing Anaheim needs at all.

 

[belair]

Is this a joke? Why on earth would Anaheim ever consider that? Bean is no where remotely close to a good enough centerpiece, and a LHD is the absolute last thing Anaheim needs at all.

I'm thinking one of Carolina's top F prospects, Bean and a high pick. So no, not a joke. More of a 'Carolina has a ridiculously loaded prospect cabinet and could outbid any team without hurting their core' suggestion.

 

[WhatTheDuck]

I'm thinking one of Carolina's top F prospects, Bean and a high pick. So no, not a joke. More of a 'Carolina has a ridiculously loaded prospect cabinet and could outbid any team without hurting their core' suggestion.

When you say Bean ++ it is assumed you are suggesting him as the best piece, which would result in laughter and a hang up.

Do you guys realize how little desire a team has to move their franchise player who is signed to a very team friendly long term deal, and who they have absolutely no reason to trade barring an offer too good to refuse? Sorry but bringing up Bean suggests you haven't put a slight bit of thought into this from Anaheim's perspective.

 

[Leonardo87]

Scoring forward? There is this guy Zegras. He’s interesting.

Ducks need more than just Zegras if they are serious in competing. They need a 1C or top line winger, which is why they were big on Dubois.