Post-Game Talk: "Scheifele wins the draw, Ladd shoots it high!" And other ref stories. Jets fall 4-3.

[Bartho]

I missed the game winner but from what I saw Pavs gave up terrible goal and one one bad goal. The 2nd was on the whole team. Throw in some poor defensive play and utterly terrible reffing and you have a recepie for a disappointing loss.

Scheifele looked fantastic at least.

One would have to imagine Monty will get the start on Friday and if he does, I hope he plays well because I'm going to the game.

 

[Saitama]

Reffing was beyond awful and Pavs was doing his usual over-committing on shots. Seriously guy, you don't have to slide 20 feet out of your net on every save.

 

[broinwhyteridge]

So once again people pile on Pavelec when the defensive coverage didn't exactly do him favors. Maybe Montoya would have played better, maybe he wouldn't have. He isn't a godsend.

A shootertutor would be compared to 31.

 

[Andy6]

That's as bad as the Jets get under Maurice, and they lose by 1. It's going to happen - it's just too bad that it was probably preventable. And how did they come out so bad to start the third?

 

[Sweech]

Over committing on every shot isn't the Ds problem

No kidding.

He plays like he's 5'10" and it's infuriating. When you're that big you shouldn't have to come that far out or slide that far.

 

[Mathmew Purrrr Oh]

Stu and Troubs both +2 despite playing terrible

the small sample size/eye test whombo combo showing why +/- is garbage

 

[meedle]

He hasn't been good for a while, but he's still in the honeymoon period with this fanbase right now. People are looking at his points and that's it.

He is a rookie so he gets more lee-way than some others.

 

[Savagestevo]

Did you even see this game? Pavelec powersliding like a bad 80's Metal band's front man.

Pavelec wasn't good, neither was the defense. Trouba was bad, Bogosian was bad, Stuart was Stuart and the bottom pairing of course once again was so bad that they pretty much didn't play at all the last 10 minutes. Out of 6 defensemen I could say one had an okay game.

 

[KCjetsfan]

I'm gonna guess no one except maybe about 4 other people noticed Trouba was bad defensively?

sometimes i feel i'm the only one that sees the glaring holes in some of his performances. granted i also see incredible potential to be a dominating d-man, and he is only 19.

 

[Duke749]

He hasn't been good for a while, but he's still in the honeymoon period with this fanbase right now. People are looking at his points and that's it.

This game really stood out. He hadn't been playing well, but he was just straight bad tonight. Our defensive zone play as a whole was weak against an offensively challenged team.

 

[Channelcat]

Everyone played well tonight in my opinion.....except Pavs. You can't let in 4 (plus 1 dis) and still expect a win.

 

[KingBogo]

God Damn I wish we had tied it there. Montoya definitly starts the next one.

I'm not the best judge, but I thought Enstrom actually had a pretty good game today, I'd point fingers at NoGo his partner instead.

No need to point fingers at either, they were easily the best pairing.

 

[Jetsfan4life]

This topic was missing on headline.Pavelec is horrible.Come on coach why would you sit Montoya when he played the way he did the other night.This was a terrible game decision by our new coach.

 

[Duke749]

He is a rookie so he gets more lee-way than some others.

Still played bad.

 

[White Out 403*]

Pavelec wasn't good, neither was the defense. Trouba was bad, Bogosian was bad, Stuart was Stuart and the bottom pairing of course once again was so bad that they pretty much didn't play at all the last 10 minutes. Out of 6 defensemen I could say one had an okay game.

You don't consider limiting the opposition to 25 shots a good night defensively? Just curious,

 

[Sweech]

I'm gonna guess no one except maybe about 4 other people noticed Trouba was bad defensively?

Nah he's had a few games like that though. To be expected somewhat in his position though. Nothing he's done looks glaring to me.

Enstrom also struggled early, but I felt he got better as the game went on.

Solid enough game from Stu as well.

 

[Boreal]

Pavelec is a starter on a playoff team in my opinion. Of course, I'm thinking of the Ice Caps, but the point holds true.

 

[Romang67]

Just wanna point out, since it seems lost on some people. Just because Pavelec only faced 25 shots doesn't mean he lost us the game. Not all shots are of the same quality.

 

[Duke749]

Everyone played well tonight in my opinion.....except Pavs. You can't let in 4 (plus 1 dis) and still expect a win.

Ok, not even Res would say that. Seriously though. How the hell do you figure that?

 

[Mathmew Purrrr Oh]

This game really stood out. He hadn't been playing well, but he was just straight bad tonight. Our defensive zone play as a whole was weak against an offensively challenged team.

Stu was a HUGE part of that - the second goal was started with him hanging 8 out to dry

 

[Jet]

So once again people pile on Pavelec when the defensive coverage didn't exactly do him favors. Maybe Montoya would have played better, maybe he wouldn't have. He isn't a godsend.

17 Al Montoya WPG 16 13 9 4 1 438 33 2.22 405 .925
59 O Pavelec WPG 41 41 16 20 4 1202 118 2.97 1084 .902

..and that is before Ondrej's 4 GAA and .840 sv% in this game.

I do have faith that Maurice won't just blindly play Pavelec over and over though. I just hope that Monty grabs the bull by the horns. Wait, his line shows he has already.

 

[sipowicz]

This topic was missing on headline.Pavelec is horrible.Come on coach why would you sit Montoya when he played the way he did the other night.This was a terrible game decision by our new coach.

HAVE TO AGREE, new guy. monty earned and deserved the start, pavs was crap against the leafs

 

[Savagestevo]

Everyone played well tonight in my opinion.....except Pavs. You can't let in 4 (plus 1 dis) and still expect a win.

I didn't think anyone had an good game outside of Scheifele and maybe Wheeler, I don't know why everyone is piling this entire loss on Pavelec. I only ever thought the Jets could tie it up when Scheifele was on the ice(and even then, his line had Thorburn on it, the flurry at around the 3:00 mark actually ended because he passed it off the side of the net, not because the Preds stole it)

 

[Guilty Party]

#hockeytalks
good on ya winnipeg jets.

 

[SensibleGuy]

Just wanna point out, since it seems lost on some people. Just because Pavelec only faced 25 shots doesn't mean he lost us the game. Not all shots are of the same quality.

Pav's was pretty brutal tonight.