Value of: Sami Vatanen

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Perry wont waive

Didn't he just have a kid? lol doubt he takes a chance of moving to veags

 

[tomd]

Perry wont waive

You can have that belief and state it as such but you can't make a definitive statement like you did. I can give at least 3 reasons why he might do it so isn't out of the question. I did say it was a long shot and you just should have simply acknowledged that it is

 

[firstemperor]

Vatanen+ for Palat

Can the Ducks even protect Palat in the ED? What are the implications

 

[Ducks in a row]

You can have that belief and state it as such but you can't make a definitive statement like you did. I can give at least 3 reasons why he might do it isn't out of the question. I did say it was a long shot and you just should have simply acknowledged that it is

Sure I can't say for sure but the odds are against him waiving. No way do I see him wanting to risk playing for expansion Las Vegas team over remaining in Anaheim. This isn't a Bieksa situation that you know no way would Las Vegas take you.

 

[Eric Sachs]

The expansion draft is all about GM's being creative. One option for Murray is to give LV a 2nd for agreeing not to take An exposed Vatanen. Another is for him to get Perry and Bieksa to waive their NMC'S for the ED then go 4-4-1 with Cogliano the odd man out. Very low chance that LV would take either Perry or Bieksa. A long shot to be sure but something creative is going to happen. It always does

Vegas will take Perry in a heartbeat. He would likely be their best, if not one of their best, forwards.. you have to realize that their options up front are fairly limited due to the depth of the protection slots.

 

[tomd]

Sure I can't say for sure but the odds are against him waiving. No way do I see him wanting to risk playing for expansion Las Vegas team over remaining in Anaheim. This isn't a Bieksa situation that you know no way would Las Vegas take you.

Perry would be correct in assuming that there is no way LV takes on his massive salary for the remaining years. Why would they especially considering he might be on the verge of a massive decline. Then there is the rumor that he isn't happy in Anaheim and may welcome a change of scenery. Playing in vegas gives him an instant 13% pay increase since they have no state income tax. Finally, knowing he won't get selected he helps the team by allowing them to kee the roster intact and not lose a Vatanen or Silverberg for nothing

 

[tomd]

Vegas will take Perry in a heartbeat. He would likely be their best, if not one of their best, forwards.. you have to realize that their options up front are fairly limited due to the depth of the protection slots.

Have you seen his contract and his declining productivity? He is close to being one of the worst contracts in the league. Not to mention he is 32 years old and his skating is a real liability now and going forward. And you think Vegas takes that?

 

[WhatTheDuck]

Can the Ducks even protect Palat in the ED? What are the implications

Yes, he would be one of 7 forwards protected.

 

[Ducks in a row]

Perry would be correct in assuming that there is no way LV takes on his massive salary for the remaioyears. Why would they especially considering he might be on the verge of a massive decline. Then there is the rumor that he isn't happy in Anaheim and may welcome a change of scenery. Playing in vegas gives him an instant 13% pay increase since they have no state income tax. Finally, knowing he won't get selected he helps the team by allowing them to kee the roster intact and not lose a Vatanen or Silverberg from nothing

Perry is a big name especially compared to any forwards they would have. He would provide veteran leadership to the team. He would help them reach the cap floor. He had 1 bad season and he could rebound. I wouldn't want to risk being taken by Las Vegas if I was him.

 

[tomd]

Perry is a big name especially compared to any forwards they would have. He would provide veteran leadership to the team. He would help them reach the cap floor. He had 1 bad season and he could rebound. I wouldn't want to risk being taken by Las Vegas if I was him.

Fair concerns but I gave you the flip side as well. I said it was a long shot but don't be surprised if something like that happens. Crazy things happen with the expansion draft. Let me also say that Perry would not be a fan draw and LV could get 5 veteran leaders for the price of him alone. I don't think they would relish paying 8 million for a 15 goal scorer

 

[Ducks in a row]

Fair concerns but I gave you the flip side as well. I said it was a long shot but don't be surprised if something like that happens. Crazy things happen with the expansion draft

Sure it is possible but it would surprise me if it actually happened.

 

[VoluntaryDom]

Didn't he just have a kid? lol doubt he takes a chance of moving to veags

you just don't want to change your username

 

[DANTHEMAN1967]

Vegas will take Perry in a heartbeat. He would likely be their best, if not one of their best, forwards.. you have to realize that their options up front are fairly limited due to the depth of the protection slots.

He is already experiencing a substantial drop off in his production (19 goals) so I don't see LV choosing him and his $8.6 million salary for four more years.

 

[VanJack]

Vatanen and Lindholm both need shoulder surgery for torn labrums.... not at all likely they'll be healthy enough to start the season in the fall....so it's buyer beware.

 

[Mr Hockey]

I guess Vatanen and Lindholm still have to be protected in the ex-draft?

 

[dracom]

I guess Vatanen and Lindholm still have to be protected in the ex-draft?

Lindholm, yes.

Vats, no.

 

[mouser]

Perry wont waive

Agreed, it's silly to think he would.

 

[Liferleafer]

you just don't want to change your username

Getz2JVR has a nice ring to it....





I kid I kid.....

 

[Ciao]

Vats is a nice piece but he isn't what the Leafs need. I do hope they pass on him entirely.

The Leafs really need a stud. Vatanen is not a stud and will not satisfy that need.

The only thing he brings is being right handed. Otherwise, the Leafs already have plenty of similar talent to work with.

There's really no need to overpay for another guy.

No need to clog up the roster for the younger and newer players under development either.

Plus, it's always a gamble coming off surgery.

Strong pass on Vatanen.

 

[broman]

I don't understand the "should Perry waive" question? Just because "big salary+little production+too many D=should waive" applies to Bieksa, doesn't mean that the same narrative is instantly applicable to every underperforming Duck. Let alone a franchise player, albeit a declining one. The logic just doesn't add up. Won't happen, guaranteed.

 

[broman]

Perry may eventually be traded, Kessel-style. But I guarantee he won't waive for Vegas. Besides the Ducks don't need him to. The current issue is with D, which is why we're speculating Vatanen.

 

[jcbeze]

I guess Vatanen and Lindholm still have to be protected in the ex-draft?

Neither player is exempt due to their injuries, if that's what you meant

 

[Vexed]

If Perry waives and is exposed there is no way Vegas doesn't take him on a free, contract be damned. Marketability is a huge factor plus you'll have him without a NTC yourself so he becomes trade bait with retention for a team that shouldn't be near the ceiling.

 

[BB88]

Vats is a nice piece but he isn't what the Leafs need. I do hope they pass on him entirely.

The Leafs really need a stud. Vatanen is not a stud and will not satisfy that need.

The only thing he brings is being right handed. Otherwise, the Leafs already have plenty of similar talent to work with.

There's really no need to overpay for another guy.

No need to clog up the roster for the younger and newer players under development either.

Plus, it's always a gamble coming off surgery.

Strong pass on Vatanen.

You're not going to get that without giving up one of the big 3.

If Perry waives and is exposed there is no way Vegas doesn't take him on a free, contract be damned. Marketability is a huge factor plus you'll have him without a NTC yourself so he becomes trade bait with retention for a team that shouldn't be near the ceiling.

Yep, the forward market is so weak that they'd take Perry without thinking if given the chance.

 

[Trapper]

You're not going to get that without giving up one of the big 3.



Yep, the forward market is so weak that they'd take Perry without thinking if given the choice.

I would move one if the right D was available. (Not Matthews).
Who did you have in mind?