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FLAMES666 · Jun 25, 2015

Yes stay away from ROR @7.5 million who is a legit top 6 forward who hasn't reached his prime, yet pay a 3rd line forward 4+ million. If we sign Frolik to that its just plane ****ty.

Lunatik · Jun 25, 2015

Anglesmith said:
He hits, he skates, he goes to the dirty areas, he scores. What's not to like? Jones at his best is as good or better, but I don't think Frolik is a downgrade at all, especially when you factor in consistency. I had Frolik on Team Intangibles last season, so I was watching him quite a bit.

That said, if someone offers him over $5M, I'd let them have him.

So we add another $4+ million RW that is only marginally better than Jones and won't be as good as Colborne? That's a waste of cap space unless Jones is being moved.

And if someone is dumb enough to sign Frolik to that, they should also be dumb enough to trade for Jones @ 4 million.

CraigsList · Jun 25, 2015

FLAMES666 said:
Yes stay away from ROR @7.5 million who is a legit top 6 forward who hasn't reached his prime, yet pay a 3rd line forward 4+ million. If we sign Frolik to that its just plane ****ty.

Wasn't Hudler a third line winger in Detroit? What if we get the same results with Frolik when given a better opportunity to succeed? Additionally, you're paying assets for a player that only cares about money. Paying assets and then having to offer a long, long contract with more $ isn't a good idea when we still have Monahan, Gaudreau and Giordano to re-sign.

CraigsList · Jun 25, 2015

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=1222563&highlight=hudler

Looks like a lot of you weren't happy or not sure what to think with the Hudler signing, and look how that has turned out.

pckstpr31 · Jun 25, 2015

What would the general consensus be on Eric Fehr? Seems like he's going to test free agency.

Johnny GODreau · Jun 25, 2015

pckstpr31 said:
What would the general consensus be on Eric Fehr? Seems like he's going to test free agency.

I wouldn't mind him. Apparently plays better as a Center than Winger. He along with Beagle would be solid for RH Bottom 6'ers.

FLAMES666 · Jun 25, 2015

ForeverFlameFan said:
Wasn't Hudler a third line winger in Detroit? What if we get the same results with Frolik when given a better opportunity to succeed? Additionally, you're paying assets for a player that only cares about money. Paying assets and then having to offer a long, long contract with more $ isn't a good idea when we still have Monahan, Gaudreau and Giordano to re-sign.

Frolik getting 4+ million means he doesn't care about money?? If he didn't he would have returned to Winnipeg. Thinking he becomes the next Hudler his extremely optimistic.

CraigsList · Jun 25, 2015

FLAMES666 said:
Frolik getting 4+ million means he doesn't care about money?? If he didn't he would have returned to Winnipeg. Thinking he becomes the next Hudler his extremely optimistic.

I said what if, of course it was optimism. I'm just stating that surely you'd see a lot more positive results from Frolik if given 2nd line ice time. And I'd much rather pay a player 4.5m x 4 years than a player 7.5m x 8 years when we have plenty of others to re-sign.

FLAMES666 · Jun 25, 2015

ForeverFlameFan said:
I said what if, of course it was optimism. I'm just stating that surely you'd see a lot more positive results from Frolik if given 2nd line ice time. And I'd much rather pay a player 4.5m x 4 years than a player 7.5m x 8 years when we have plenty of others to re-sign.

I disagree I would rather pay ROR more money to have a legit top 6 forward then a overpay a 3rd liner and expect him to perform like a top 6 player.

Bouma Fett* · Jun 25, 2015

Not to mention ROR has value if we ever needed the space we could easily move him at 7.5. And he's already shown in the past he would like to play for the Flames

Calculon · Jun 25, 2015

Looks like Treliving still has a lot to learn about being a GM. You'd think Burke would have helped him here.

Anglesmith · Jun 25, 2015

What?

Lunatik · Jun 25, 2015

ForeverFlameFan said:
Wasn't Hudler a third line winger in Detroit? What if we get the same results with Frolik when given a better opportunity to succeed? Additionally, you're paying assets for a player that only cares about money. Paying assets and then having to offer a long, long contract with more $ isn't a good idea when we still have Monahan, Gaudreau and Giordano to re-sign.

Hudler was a 3rd liner behind stars. Frolik was a 3rd liner behind Stempniak, I get you are trying to put a positive spin on him but let's be realistic.

CraigsList · Jun 25, 2015

100 Third Graders said:
Hudler was a 3rd liner behind stars. Frolik was a 3rd liner behind Stempniak, I get you are trying to put a positive spin on him but let's be realistic.

Regardless, he's still an upgrade than both Colborne and Jones.

mcpw · Jun 25, 2015

100 Third Graders said:
Hudler was a 3rd liner behind stars. Frolik was a 3rd liner behind Stempniak, I get you are trying to put a positive spin on him but let's be realistic.

After we acquired Stempniak, Frolik played exclusively on the first line with Ladd and Little, while Wheeler played behind him on the second line.
Stempniak didn't play a single minute in our top6.

Anglesmith · Jun 25, 2015

100 Third Graders said:
Hudler was a 3rd liner behind stars. Frolik was a 3rd liner behind Stempniak, I get you are trying to put a positive spin on him but let's be realistic.

Yeah, as the Jets fan above confirms, that's not true. Frolik was a top 6 forward last season after he got hot mid-way through the season on the third line.

Lunatik · Jun 25, 2015

Anglesmith said:
Yeah, as the Jets fan above confirms, that's not true. Frolik was a top 6 forward last season after he got hot mid-way through the season on the third line.

I shouldn't have assumed FFF was right :laugh:

Either way, I don't think he is an upgrade on Jones and Colborne is going to be quite a bit better. Not to mention it pushes Poirier down to about 7th on the RW depth chart. It makes no sense to pick up Frolik unless Jones is being moved in another deal.

Anglesmith · Jun 25, 2015

You're probably right. We should use those UFA dollars to sign Jan Hejda.

Johnny GODreau · Jun 25, 2015

Anglesmith said:
You're probably right. We should use those UFA dollars to sign Jan Hejda.

Why Hejda? :laugh:

Anglesmith · Jun 25, 2015

Johnny GODreau said:
Why Hejda?

For the glory of Satan, of course. And because I think our biggest need is on defence. I think Hejda would improve our team tremendously.

Tkachuk Norris · Jun 25, 2015

We should stay away from FA.

Calculon · Jun 25, 2015

Wouldn't mind seeing Treliving kick a few tires at Beleskey. Some, really big, heavy tires; that should scare him off. Burke would probably get more range though.

Calculon · Jun 25, 2015

It begins

Looks like ROR is definitely being traded now.

CraigsList · Jun 25, 2015

The Avs must have talked to Soderberg and want to get a signing done before July 1st. Good trade for the Avs.

OvermanKingGainer · Jun 25, 2015

the only free agent I'd want to sign this year is Tim Erixon if Toronto doesn't qualify him.

Just so we can waive him after training camp.

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