Proposal: Rumours and Proposals Thread: Vermette being bought out?

[Aerrol]

I'm not selling those teams short, they weren't very good, if they didn't play eachother, they likely wouldn't have been out in the first round. The Panthers looked bad against the Islanders and the Islander were soundly beaten by Tampa.

Again, the higher end of East is pretty competitive, the depth in the conference simply isn't there. It's why Philly makes the playoffs this year and the Sens last year.

And the Wild looked pretty terrible to me this year. I'd put the Isles and Panthers in the same tier as them. So one less 'weak' team in the West in this year's playoffs. I think the Rangers and Wings are better than all of the above still too (this year, anyway). I think the depth difference exists, its just not that substantial. Certainly not to the point of 'better watch out getting that eastern player, they're going to crumble in the west!'.

As for Petrovic, we could use his shot I suppose, but I'd rather just keep Yak for forward depth than make another trade for a guy with no real offensive chops. Sign a cheap, meh option like Wiz instead. Cheap deal for Wideman, something like that. We have enough defensive dmen already.

 

[Robotdanceparty]

I think the Panthers had a bad playoffs, but would do just fine competing in the west. I think the west is slightly better still but I don't think it's a big divide at all. I also wouldn't be surprised to see the east be the better conference within a few years.

 

[Jumptheshark]

So it is more or less the oiler blogs talking anout PEtrovic and no one else

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

I think the Panthers had a bad playoffs, but would do just fine competing in the west. I think the west is slightly better still but I don't think it's a big divide at all. I also wouldn't be surprised to see the east be the better conference within a few years.

They were dominated by the Isles despite winning their division, they were a regular season team, when someone doesn't play them repeatedly, they don't get exposed.

 

[sportsdynasty]

Why would Florida want to trade Petrovic? Why would Florida want Yakupov in return?

 

[Robotdanceparty]

Why would Florida want to trade Petrovic? Why would Florida want Yakupov in return?

The only reason I could see for them wanting to trade him is because of expansion draft.

 

[Canovin]

The only reason I could see for them wanting to trade him is because of expansion draft.

If that's the case. Benson+ for Petro? We can find another Benson next year.

 

[MettleMcOiler]

Keep your profile pic please

Lol You got it!! But only if Yakupov stays XD

 

[MessierII]

If that's the case. Benson+ for Petro? We can find another Benson next year.

Benson >>>> Yak at this point at least to me.

 

[Canovin]

Benson >>>> Yak at this point at least to me.

Yak for Petro makes no sense for Florida if they are only moving Petro for an expansion exempted player. Which is why I mentioned Benson

 

[Canovin]

I know Sekera has a NMC. But I'd move him if he waives for Petrovic+ and then OS Lindholm 8M/yr. If you have the opportunity to lock your defense long term you do it.

Klef(4.1M), Larsson(4.2), Lindholm(8M), Davidson(1.5M), Petrovic(1M), Reinhart(1M).

That's 20M for defense.

 

[lakai17]

Florida did a lot the last 2 months adding Demers, Yandle, Sceviour. Flipping Gudbranson.

Adding goaltending depth in Reimer and Berra.

 

[Chaos2k7]

They were dominated by the Isles despite winning their division, they were a regular season team, when someone doesn't play them repeatedly, they don't get exposed.

You should have watched the series, or feel free to go to the Isles board and ask, Florida dominated NYI for 5 or 6 games, and their goalie outplayed Luongo.

 

[Narnia]

I know Sekera has a NMC. But I'd move him if he waives for Petrovic+ and then OS Lindholm 8M/yr. If you have the opportunity to lock your defense long term you do it.

Klef(4.1M), Larsson(4.2), Lindholm(8M), Davidson(1.5M), Petrovic(1M), Reinhart(1M).

That's 20M for defense.

I wouldn't. In what universe is Petrovic better than Sekera. Sekera is getting criminally underrated on this board.

 

[s7ark]

I know Sekera has a NMC. But I'd move him if he waives for Petrovic+ and then OS Lindholm 8M/yr. If you have the opportunity to lock your defense long term you do it.

Klef(4.1M), Larsson(4.2), Lindholm(8M), Davidson(1.5M), Petrovic(1M), Reinhart(1M).

That's 20M for defense.

Average age of 22.8 yo. I don't see any problems with that at all

 

[SupremeTeam16]

I don't think we see anymore trades before the season unless it's a can't pass it up kinda deal that comes along. Most likely we will see a veteran puck mover/PP specialist brought in like Wiz/Boyle/Seidenberg on a cheap short term deal or PTO, or possibly gamble on a guy with a year left like Wideman/Franson if they come dirt cheap by trade. Come the all star break they will have a better idea on Davidson as well as Nurse/Reinhart and they can evaluate if they need an upgrade and try to get good value from a team looking to shed a guy they fear losing in expansion or maybe they decide to stay put and wait till the dust settles after the expansion draft.

I'd wager they want to see if Davidson continues the way he was last season and also if any of Nurse/Reinhart/Oesterle can take a step forward this season. I think that #4 spot will be a platoon of Davidson/Fayne with maybe Reinhart or Nurse possibly making a case with a terrific camp and start to the season. They probably want to figure out as well who, if anyone can transition to the right or if they will have to put Sekera on the right with whoever wins that 4 spot.

 

[Mr Positive]

It seems odd to me that trade talk around Petrovic would heat up so far from the Barrie arbitration hearing. It's not that Barrie is a sure thing of course, but you never know if that situation can go sour. Even Stauffer mentioned that Chiarelli might wait until the hearing for the asking price to potentially go down on Barrie.

Only after then should we really be considering a Petrovic trade. Then again, maybe it's Florida initiating a trade talk.

It's also possible that Chiarelli was serious when he said he was comfortable with the roster as it is. Let players show their stuff and create some competition for our lower players and prospects to show something, and maybe a PTO or two.

If we look brutal on the ice, then maybe think trade.

 

[SomeDudeOTI]

It seems odd to me that trade talk around Petrovic would heat up so far from the Barrie arbitration hearing. It's not that Barrie is a sure thing of course, but you never know if that situation can go sour. Even Stauffer mentioned that Chiarelli might wait until the hearing for the asking price to potentially go down on Barrie.

Only after then should we really be considering a Petrovic trade. Then again, maybe it's Florida initiating a trade talk.

It's also possible that Chiarelli was serious when he said he was comfortable with the roster as it is. Let players show their stuff and create some competition for our lower players and prospects to show something, and maybe a PTO or two.

If we look brutal on the ice, then maybe think trade.

If Colorado thought we were getting other offers the Barrie price might come down in a hurry.

In other news.. a young nhl rhd with potential for cheap wouldn't be a bad thing either.

 

[Canovin]

|I wouldn't. In what universe is Petrovic better than Sekera. Sekera is getting criminally underrated on this board.

Petrovic isn't better than Sekera. That wasn't the point. Moving Sekera and bringing in a cheaper contract will allow us to offer sheet Lindolm who I think is a 22yr old defensive stud. Petrovic is right there with Davidson with a lot room to grow. Sekera on the other hand is paid 5.5M who was supposed to play like a good #3 but played like a #5 most of the year. That has a lot of potential for disaster with his age and us having to extend McDavid, Drai and Pulju in the future.

Average age of 22.8 yo. I don't see any problems with that at all

That means 15 years of contention? Take out Reinhart and add in Wiz and Gryba and the defense doesn't look too bad going forward.

Lindholm-Larsson
Klef-Petro
Davidson-Wiz
Gryba

 

[Dazed and Confused]

At this point I don't think adding a guy like Petrovic (or Lindholm for that matter) really solves any issues with the defence. People are making a Davidson comparison, but even then this team already has 3(4?) guys that are close to Davidson's level and/or style, and that's not counting Davidson himself in that.

Plus this team already has Larrson and Fayne on the right side as shutdown-y guys, Petrovic isn't adding anything there, he's just bring more of the same. You'd be better off going after a lesser asset but one that brings a bit of diverisy in terms of skill set to the team. When the rest of your defence is already comprsised purely of 2 way and defencive defencemen, added more likely isn't going to change the results.

Get me a talented and creative defenceman, who a) knows what their doing (RE: experenced) and b) isn't a complete pansy (RE: Schultz), and I'll be happy.


In stort:
Better player overall: Lindholm/Petrovic >> Wisniewski, Wideman, Boyle
Who make this team better: Lindholm/Petrovic << Wisniewski, Wideman, Boyle

Or pay the piper and get Barrie or Shattenkirk. (though likely the worst option)

 

[t0nedeff]

Petrovic isn't better than Sekera. That wasn't the point. Moving Sekera and bringing in a cheaper contract will allow us to offer sheet Lindolm who I think is a 22yr old defensive stud. Petrovic is right there with Davidson with a lot room to grow. Sekera on the other hand is paid 5.5M who was supposed to play like a good #3 but played like a #5 most of the year. That has a lot of potential for disaster with his age and us having to extend McDavid, Drai and Pulju in the future.




That means 15 years of contention? Take out Reinhart and add in Wiz and Gryba and the defense doesn't look too bad going forward.

Lindholm-Larsson
Klef-Petro
Davidson-Wiz
Gryba

Yeah and if Anaheim decides to match and trade Vatanen off to keep him than what?
Back to 2 legit top 4 d men on the team and a bunch of unknowns.

 

[Kayen]

He started following Stauffer on twitter and vice versa

The reality is he's in town for a golf tournament and everybody read a little too far into it.

Still not a bad or unrealistic player to trade for

I wouldn't say just in town for a tourney, considering he's from here. Had a summer school class with the guy years ago in high school, and i've seen him kicking around town a few times already this offseason.

That said I like his game, and think he'd be a good add. For Yak? I don't know about that though. I don't want to part with Davidson at all.

 

[nabob]

Petrovic isn't better than Sekera. That wasn't the point. Moving Sekera and bringing in a cheaper contract will allow us to offer sheet Lindolm who I think is a 22yr old defensive stud. Petrovic is right there with Davidson with a lot room to grow. Sekera on the other hand is paid 5.5M who was supposed to play like a good #3 but played like a #5 most of the year. That has a lot of potential for disaster with his age and us having to extend McDavid, Drai and Pulju in the future.

Sekera did not play most of the season like a #5. That's a load of crap. But even then you're saying that Petrovic is at best a #6.

You're also ignoring the fact that Sekera has a NMC.

 

[McFlyingV]

You should have watched the series, or feel free to go to the Isles board and ask, Florida dominated NYI for 5 or 6 games, and their goalie outplayed Luongo.

It was a terrible series in the games I could actually stomach watching. Easily the most boring playoff series of this years playoffs, and both teams looked pretty bad.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

You should have watched the series, or feel free to go to the Isles board and ask, Florida dominated NYI for 5 or 6 games, and their goalie outplayed Luongo.

We saw the highlights, and no Florida didn't dominate. You don't dominate when you get outshot.