Speculation: Rumors/Speculation/Trade Talk - 2018-19 - Part IV

[saintunspecified]

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PS) When it comes to deadline trades, and yes, I've mentioned this player before, and I don't know what Trotz' opinion of and relationship to Marcus Johansson was in Washington before Johansson was moved for draft picks (I thought that was a salary dump; rumors out of Sweden are that he's "difficult" in the locker room), but I've been observing him with Jersey recently, where he's been filling in for Hall on the Hischier line and I've seen a lot of things that make me think he could gel very well with Barzal. He appears to be moving on all cylinders right now and is much more creative player than I had suspected. He can play either wing.

Johansson is a player I'd target if we get priced out of the big game market (likely) and the price is too high for Dzingel, who I prefer to Johansson because of Dzingel's explosiveness.

 

[TeamKidd]

If Lee pulls a Tavares I will officially be emotionally scarred for life

I happen to be in possession of one slightly used Minnesota North Star pajamas owned by none other than Mr Anders Lee.

 

[doublechili]

Adam Henrique enters TSN's trade board at #14.

https://www.tsn.ca/trade-bait-boyle-out-henrique-in-1.1253331

He's signed for 5 more years at $5.8 million per year and just turned 29. He's overpaid for this year's production. I wonder if he could be had for a reasonable price? And if so, do we want that contract?

I'm mentioning him primarily because he was drafted by Lou. And he can play C or wing.

 

[TeamKidd]

1. They are clearly not satisfied with the wingers playing with Barzal...
2. They WILL address that, unlike the SnowJob we had as GM prior.
3. itshouldbepanarinduh

 

[TeamKidd]

Adam Henrique enters TSN's trade board at #14.

https://www.tsn.ca/trade-bait-boyle-out-henrique-in-1.1253331

He's signed for 5 more years at $5.8 million per year and just turned 29. He's overpaid for this year's production. I wonder if he could be had for a reasonable price? And if so, do we want that contract?

I'm mentioning him primarily because he was drafted by Lou. And he can play C or wing.

Personally I dont really see the fit. Do we need any more middling wingers/centers? We need more skill and desperately need some goal scorers to help the PP and break open a game every once in a while....imo..

 

[doublechili]

Personally I dont really see the fit. Do we need any more middling wingers/centers? We need more skill and desperately need some goal scorers to help the PP and break open a game every once in a while....imo..

I'm probably in agreement. Unless the plan would be to trade for Henrique and then let Nelson walk (basically swapping them out at 2C). The question is whether that's a good "trade" and whether there is cap room left to go for the big fish this summer.

 

[TeamKidd]

serious question, does anyone think cizikas can play 2C for us? starting to remind me a lot of mike peca. If we can slot CC in 2C and get a more typical 4th line center (or have uncle Leo do it), then we'd have some serious cash to spend this offseason....

 

[Mr Misunderstood]

serious question, does anyone think cizikas can play 2C for us? starting to remind me a lot of mike peca. If we can slot CC in 2C and get a more typical 4th line center (or have uncle Leo do it), then we'd have some serious cash to spend this offseason....

I don't hate it, but for a team that already struggles to score goals, I don't think you can roll with a 2C who has a career high of 12 goals if you want to win Cups.

 

[PK Cronin]

Two simple reasons imo:
1. Lehner is on a show me contract and has found a drug regiment that treats his illness. Anybody with or around someone with mental illness knows how easy it is for meds to stop working. Body chemistry changes and mental illness is the type of thing that takes hardcore management to keep symptoms at bay. Maybe none of these guys are sold that Lehner's a long time solution. Great story and all, but I'm not sure I'm sold on him yet either. The cynic in me says let's see what he does with real full-time work.
2. He's a UFA. I know most of you just assume he's going to sign a longer contract with the Isles, but that's no guarantee. I don't mind the Isles inking him to a multi-year deal, but it's hardly set in stone. If I'm Lehner, I would have signed an extension yesterday knowing what I'm dealing with. He hasn't....which could mean he's concentrating on hockey, but there are at least two other possible scenarios out there to explain it (hasn't been offered a contract/has told his agent he's going to test UFA).

Yeah, but Jimmy Howard is also a free agent at the end of the season, and he's going to be 35 at the start of next season. He isn't a replacement for Lehner moving forward.

 

[seafoam]

I’d give up quite a bit for Kreider. He’d look great next to Barzal.

 

[saintunspecified]

He's signed for 5 more years at $5.8 million per year and just turned 29. He's overpaid for this year's production. I wonder if he could be had for a reasonable price? And if so, do we want that contract?

I think it's fair to say that Henrique is a 50 point per year player, and whether he's overpaid depends on how much one intends to pay Brock Nelson going forward. I gotta say, I feel better about Henrique and his contract than giving a 6 year deal to Brock Nelson.

While trading for Henrique isn't a perfect short-term solution, it could solve a problem for the next 3-4 years. It all depends on the cost. (Why would Anaheim want to trade him?)

 

[seafoam]

Adam Henrique enters TSN's trade board at #14.

https://www.tsn.ca/trade-bait-boyle-out-henrique-in-1.1253331

He's signed for 5 more years at $5.8 million per year and just turned 29. He's overpaid for this year's production. I wonder if he could be had for a reasonable price? And if so, do we want that contract?

I'm mentioning him primarily because he was drafted by Lou. And he can play C or wing.

I can see it as a possibility. Provides insurance down the middle if they decide to move on from Nelson and can’t bring in another center.

Everyone’s looking overpaid in that system at the moment.

 

[periferal]

Why would the isles be interested in jimmy howard

1. We're assuming that Pagnotta has his facts straight. Since no leaks are coming from the Islanders, that means any rumors he's posting have to be coming from someone else or "chatter" amongst league sources. Who knows if correct and how rumors might get muddled. Also Pagnotta could be just projecting what seems like a fit.
2. Assuming he is on target, the reason to look at Howard could be more of a summer thing since he is a UFA. Also Quick is on the list and he's still a legit #1 goalie with (4) more years on his contract at 5.8M, so if Lou let's Lehner go, Quick would be a longer-term solution in goal.

 

[12Dog]

I think it's fair to say that Henrique is a 50 point per year player, and whether he's overpaid depends on how much one intends to pay Brock Nelson going forward. I gotta say, I feel better about Henrique and his contract than giving a 6 year deal to Brock Nelson.

While trading for Henrique isn't a perfect short-term solution, it could solve a problem for the next 3-4 years. It all depends on the cost. (Why would Anaheim want to trade him?)

Get Henrique, then trade Nelson as a rental to recoup some of the assets you gave up to get Henrique.

 

[RWWallpaper]

Apologies if he’s already been discussed but what about Brandon Saad? Seems as if they are looking to move him and I’ve always loved his game…

 

[12Dog]

1. We're assuming that Pagnotta has his facts straight. Since no leaks are coming from the Islanders, that means any rumors he's posting have to be coming from someone else or "chatter" amongst league sources. Who knows if correct and how rumors might get muddled. Also Pagnotta could be just projecting what seems like a fit.
2. Assuming he is on target, the reason to look at Howard could be more of a summer thing since he is a UFA. Also Quick is on the list and he's still a legit #1 goalie with (4) more years on his contract at 5.8M, so if Lou let's Lehner go, Quick would be a longer-term solution in goal.

Quick?
4 more years for a 33 year old who seems to have groin issues?
And give up assets to get him?
Pass

 

[leeroggy]

I'm probably in agreement. Unless the plan would be to trade for Henrique and then let Nelson walk (basically swapping them out at 2C). The question is whether that's a good "trade" and whether there is cap room left to go for the big fish this summer.

I just posted this on the Trade Board in the Minnesota Fire Sale thread:

Brodin and Coyle for Beauvillier, Pelech, Ho-Sang and our 1st.

I'm seriously beginning to wonder if Beau can EVER build a strong enough frame to be a Top 6 forward consistently. Coyle adds protection to Nelson not being signed and Brodin makes our LD very deep. Then you can concentrate on adding bottom 6 scoring over the summer.

 

[DalGoal4Cups]

 

[seafoam]

Apologies if he’s already been discussed but what about Brandon Saad? Seems as if they are looking to move him and I’ve always loved his game…

Probably starts with Beauvillier.

 

[ThreeLeftSkates]

I’d give up quite a bit for Kreider. He’d look great next to Barzal.

Um, no. The Ranger stench does not wash off easily, and they would want Barzal for him.

 

[ThreeLeftSkates]

I'm seriously beginning to wonder if Beau can EVER build a strong enough frame to be a Top 6 forward consistently. Coyle adds protection to Nelson not being signed and Brodin makes our LD very deep. Then you can concentrate on adding bottom 6 scoring over the summer.

Beau is 21. Not quite ready for the glue factory.

 

[DalGoal4Cups]

Um, no. The Ranger stench does not wash off easily, and they would want Barzal for him.

The thought of an ex Ranger wearing my beloved Islanders sweater makes me physically ill. Only a Stanley cup could make that taste go away.

 

[leeroggy]

Beau is 21. Not quite ready for the glue factory.

There's enough space between the two views to drive a truck through . . . who the hell said ready for the glue factory?

He certainly should be considered tradable to improve the team.

 

[Strummergas]

I'd take Mika or Hayes. The rest can go scratch.

 

[GrandmaSlices51631]

I’m actually intrigued by Dzingel. He is a rental but I think we’d have a good chance of resigning him. Then we could send Beau to Bridgeport where he belongs