Proposal: Rumors and Proposals Thread | How Likely Are Trades Out of the North Division?

[AddyTheWrath]

RNH is historically a slow starter. I’m sure he’ll pick it up soon.

 

[LTIR]

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I didn’t know about this rule.

I wonder how long until Grosenick is ready to play.

There was something about this for Bear too.. Had he flown in from Kelowna he wouldnt have been available for camp. He drove instead and became available for first day of camp

 

[North]

Like I just said, Danault outproduced RNH at even strength last season, so how is that a downgrade regarding 5V5 play where the”line scoring” takes place? Considering RNH was strapped to Mcdavid also the fact Danault can out produce him on a much weaker team is insane.

No to mention Drai/Mcdavid would fare out produce the current setup the have at 5V5. And Danault, being arguably one of the best defensive C in the league, would greatly reduce them being scored on.

RNH has 2, 2!, even strength points this season having played 70 min with Mcdavid.

He likely commands 7M this offseason, the added savings in Danault would also allow you to sign more depth to not be a one line team..

Still seems like we’re leaving value on the table.

 

[LTIR]

Something I was thinking about...

What about a RNH for Danault swap?

Before people crucify me, Danault is a great 2 way center, something the Oilers definitely need. He’d come cheaper then RNH this offseason when they are both UFA, probably with decent term around 5M. Montreal has chosen a path with Kotkaniemi and Suzuki going forward in their top 6, I would imagine Dubois once the dust settles there as well or in place of Kotkaniemi , and Danault has voiced his displeasure as a 3C there this past offseason and rumored to have not had negotiations yet. Doubtful they can afford him considering they just handed out big deals to Gallagher and Anderson, and will be to Suzuki and Kotkaniemi.


RNH had 14 goals and 22 assists at even strength, so 36 even strength points last year. Danault had 12 goals and 30 assists, 42 Even strength points.

Why do it now? Neither player requires a quarantine being on Canadian teams, both teams can test drive the player before the offseason, and hopefully their is mutual interest in a long term deal for Danault, something you’d probably check in with prior to that trade. This would also allow the Oilers to put Draisaitl and Mcdavid back together. This would also allow Montreal another top 6 winger, rumored they had interest in Hoffman before he signed

A top 6 of

Draisaitl-Mcdavid-Kassian
Kahun-Danault-Yamamoto


Is a decent group and a better 2 way group, a high end offensive line and a good 2 way line, and I also think this would allow Yamamoto to get PP time in RNH’s spot, that is much deserved at this point.

Obviously, pending Kahun’s play, you would look for a different LW to play there as well this offseason if that didn’t work.

Am I crazy?

So u r the one spreading this crap on the mains?

There is reason why Nuge will be commanding twice as much as this phenom from Mtl

Looking at the box car numbers forcthe game tonight Danault has the lowest ice time in his entire team tonight and is a -1.

He is no ROR.

I will keep Nuge just for his PK alone.

 

[LTIR]

Still seems like we’re leaving value on the table.

Yup i would say a first rd pick or a Caufield. .

 

[Smartguy]

Still seems like we’re leaving value on the table.

How? RNH is a UFA this offseason, Danault is a UFA this offseason.

Danault is a selke calibre 2C, RNH is a high scoring, better on the wing, player who’s production has mostly come on the PP the last 2 seasons.

Do people forget that RNH was barely a 50 point C before getting to play wing with Mcdavid? The three seasons prior he had under 50 points.

The value you do think we lose would be easily offset in probably over 2M in savings on a new contract this offseason.

 

[North]

How? RNH is a UFA this offseason, Danault is a UFA this offseason.

Danault is a selke calibre 2C, RNH is a high scoring, better on the wing, player who’s production has mostly come on the PP the last 2 seasons.

Do people forget that RNH was barely a 50 point C before getting to play wing with Mcdavid? The three seasons prior he had under 50 points.

The value you do think we lose would be easily offset in probably over 2M in savings on a new contract this offseason.

I like Danault but I think RNH could bring back a pick or prospect along with him.

I could be wrong. I know Danault is highly regarded for his defensive abilities but I just think the value is slightly off.

 

[LTIR]

I like Danault but I think RNH could bring back a pick or prospect along with him.

I could be wrong. I know Danault is highly regarded for his defensive abilities but I just think the value is slightly off.

I guess getting 1 vote for selke and 1 second vote for Selke makes one a selke caliber player. The guy finished 6th in voting well over a 1000 votes behind the winner.
I guess if Matthews can be talk about as selke caliber player for getting 1 first vote from some homer then Danault is one as well.

Ill take Nuge's defensive play of Danault

 

[Smartguy]

I guess getting 1 vote for selke and 1 second vote for Selke makes one a selke caliber player. The guy finished 6th in voting well over a 1000 votes behind the winner.
I guess if Matthews can be talk about as selke caliber player for getting 1 first vote from some homer then Danault is one as well.

Ill take Nuge's defensive play of Danault

Why do you just get super upset instead of actually having a discussion?

Provide some stats then? Anything other then just being a bias fan. The fact you claim RNH is better defensive player is laughable

Here’s a good article from the NHL’s website just how solid Danault is and why he’s a top 2 way C in the NHL.

Danault: Among the best at his profession

Regardless if it was Via trade or not the Oilers should definitely consider pursuing Danault if he does hit UFA

 

[McDNicks17]

Danault is a far better defensive player.

There's really no argument.

 

[LTIR]

Why do you just get super upset instead of actually having a discussion?

Provide some stats then? Anything other then just being a bias fan.

Here’s a good article from the NHL’s website just how solid Danault is and why he’s a top 2 way C in the NHL.

Danault: Among the best at his profession

Regardless if it was Via trade or not the Oilers should definitely consider pursuing Danault if he does hit UFA

Lets look at stats after 2 periods of play tonight.

Lowest TOI on team, 29% on the dot, tripping penalty, -1 despite being up 6-2.

If Nuge is set on testing the market we take our 1st + prospect + some cap back and go shopping in the offseason. Nuge is top 5 in the league for avg TOI per game for forwards. He is easily our best PKer up front.

 

[DropTheGloves]

I wonder if getting their crap pushed in will make Benning panic and look for a quick injection of "heart" and "grit"? If so, our good friend Zack Kassian could probably help them out. Would only cost Tanner Pearson.

 

[Paralyzer008]

I can see Holland working the phones right now.

I wonder if they've considered moving a D-man to the Penguins with their very desperate situation, depending on return.

I also would think with the taxi squad situation about to get crowded if they try hard to move Jujhar for a pick or a project player - would have to be a player coming back contract-wise as nobody claimed him, showing he's not worth it for free.

 

[McDNicks17]

RNH has one season where he's a + since his sophomore year. He has more 44% xGF seasons than +50% seasons in that same time frame.

Playing lots of minutes and getting absolutely filled in while doing it doesn't make a player good defensively.

Danault is a guy that actually has elite results to back his reputation.

 

[LTIR]

RNH has one season where he's a + since his sophomore year. He has more 44% xGF seasons than +50% seasons in that same time frame.

Playing lots of minutes and getting absolutely filled in while doing it doesn't make a player good defensively.

Danault is a guy that actually has elite results to back his reputation.

Maybe factor in the team and the number of lotto finishes and coaches.
Drai has had only 2 + seasons as well.
Imagine McD finding out that we traded Nuge for another pending UFA Danault because selke votes.

 

[LTIR]

I can see Holland working the phones right now.

I wonder if they've considered moving a D-man to the Penguins with their very desperate situation, depending on return.

I also would think with the taxi squad situation about to get crowded if they try hard to move Jujhar for a pick or a project player - would have to be a player coming back contract-wise as nobody claimed him, showing he's not worth it for free.

Holland should inquire about the guy who played 3:55 tonight for Columbus. He would look great on the top line.

 

[DropTheGloves]

I can see Holland working the phones right now.

I wonder if they've considered moving a D-man to the Penguins with their very desperate situation, depending on return.

I'd love to get Rust here, but do we have an expendable D they'd accept in exchange? I have trouble seeing a fit.

I also would think with the taxi squad situation about to get crowded if they try hard to move Jujhar for a pick or a project player - would have to be a player coming back contract-wise as nobody claimed him, showing he's not worth it for free.

The Canucks have to be looking for a shakeup. With Jujhar being a hometown boy and a (supposed) tough customer I can see Benning putting a target on his name. Hasn't worked for the last six grinders they've gone out and acquired, but who knows. If we can steal a decent winger from them in return I'd be open to it.

 

[asa]

Oilers should be so desperate for skill that I would claim Pirri and play in the 1st line with Nuge and McDavid. He is so much like Hoffman, with a real opportunity he could post decent numbers. Good offensive instincts and wicked shot. Kassian does nothing to have any sort of difference.

Kassian NHL career 0.34 PPG
Pirri NHL career 0.44 PPG

When Pirri got some kind of chance he had 12-6-18 in 31 games with Vegas.

Edit. And it is sad that you could find an upgrade to your 1st line from waivers. Even if he is crappy at defending he would at least be useful in offensive zone.

I think this would be a good move. Have thought for a few years piri would relish if given a chance
Problem is inthink we are at 49 contracts

 

[DropTheGloves]

Holland should inquire about the guy who played 3:55 tonight for Columbus. He would look great on the top line.

RNH (signed) and Jones, which maybe increases the likelihood they can extend Seth. They'd probably ask for more but too bad, I don't see a lot of other top two centers on the market right now. Worst-case PLD-McDavid-Kassian becomes a thing, best case PLD can run his own line and we put the cheat code back together 5-on-5.

 

[Paralyzer008]

I'd love to get Rust here, but do we have an expendable D they'd accept in exchange? I have trouble seeing a fit.



The Canucks have to be looking for a shakeup. With Jujhar being a hometown boy and a (supposed) tough customer I can see Benning putting a target on his name. Hasn't worked for the last six grinders they've gone out and acquired, but who knows. If we can steal a decent winger from them in return I'd be open to it.

I keep thinking about Jujhar for Engvall being the shake-up deal with Toronto, but the money for both teams is so tight that maybe it has to be exact salary in and out.

 

[McDNicks17]

Maybe factor in the team and the number of lotto finishes and coaches.
Drai has had only 2 + seasons as well.
Imagine McD finding out that we traded Nuge for another pending UFA Danault because selke votes.

I'm pretty sure McDavid wouldn't mind adding someone who just had back-to-back elite defensive seasons while outscoring everyone on the Oilers at 5v5 not named McDrai.

MacKinnon just said Danault is the hardest player in the league to play against. Sounds like the type of player the Oilers could use.

 

[shoop]

I also would think with the taxi squad situation about to get crowded if they try hard to move Jujhar for a pick or a project player - would have to be a player coming back contract-wise as nobody claimed him, showing he's not worth it for free.

Yeah. He's only a $125K cap hit on the taxi squad. Keep him around as insurance. In a pinch call him up to the league. Lots of guys being out of the lineup at the same time is the only way I see Khaira playing for the Oilers again.

Not a great situation. But Holland would have to pay a team to take Khaira at this point. He is not really an NHLer now, if he ever was. But with all the uncertainty of this season if he doesn't play in the league again this year he might be a PTO guy or just hang 'em up. 220 games played at least gets him a bit of a pension.

 

[LTIR]

I believe Virtanen is in the doghouse again.

Khaira+Chiasson for Virtanen?

 

[FanOfSadTeam]

Who thought the PLD/Pulju/Kekalainen story would turn out like this?

Now imagine if Pulju suddenly started playing like he was projected to.

And I'd trade Nuge+ for PLD easily, but with all the pouting he's doing on the ice... I'm not so sure it'd be a good idea in the long term.

 

[Magnum23]

Is Ennis likely done soon, Tippet dosen't seem to be a fan