Speculation: Roster Building Thread Part VIII: Autumn in New York

[Ori]

I know it`s pre-season, but a great moment for Chytil for sure!

 

[QJL]

Would love to see this lineup based on what I've seen so far.

Kreider - Zibanejad - Buchnevich
Nash - Miller - Vesey
Chytil - Hayes - Zuccarello
Grabner - Desharnais - Andersson
Puempel
(Fast)

McDonagh - Shattenkirk
Skjei - DeAngelo
Smith - Pionk
Staal
Bereglazov

Lundqvist
Pavelec

 

[NYR]

Stretch passing is less about completing passes than it is threatening to complete passes and forcing the opposition to adjust their disposition, leaving more openings.

I'm going to have to disagree.

There's nothing wrong with stretching out an opposing defence if possible but as far as passing goes, a stretch pass has no business in this game unless there's a bad line change and on occasion the PP/PK IMO.

It's a silly high risk maneuver that's just waiting to get picked off by any fast team in the league as witnessed in the last NYR-Pens Series.

It's no bueno.

Short crisp passes with speed and support is the way baby!

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Would love to see this lineup based on what I've seen so far.

Kreider - Zibanejad - Buchnevich
Nash - Miller - Vesey
Chytil - Hayes - Zuccarello
Grabner - Desharnais - Andersson
Puempel
(Fast)

McDonagh - Shattenkirk
Skjei - DeAngelo
Smith - Pionk
Staal
Bereglazov

Lundqvist
Pavelec

Can't have a rookie on the fourth line.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Can't have a rookie on the fourth line.

You can if you give him ice time in other areas (PK,PP.)

But that won't happen here.


I'd like to see Andersson get a game with Zucc. Their games should mesh well together.

 

[Machinehead]

If Desharnais works out, Gorton deserves a ton of credit for his guts and vision.

Literally nobody else is willing to give small players a chance at bottom six roles.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

If Desharnais works out, Gorton deserves a ton of credit for his guts and vision.

Literally nobody else is willing to give small players a chance at bottom six roles.

I never understood the hate for DD in Montreal. On the 4th line in his current role he is basically Dom Moore-level good.

 

[Nickmo82]

I never understood the hate for DD in Montreal. On the 4th line in his current role he is basically Dom Moore-level good.

Wasn't he seeing first line minutes there?

 

[Ola]

Great report everyone!

You have him replacing AV as coach, too, right?

I don't for a second believe in Chytil as a playing coach. I know a of a team that had a playing coach last season, he is a pretty talented PMD but has like a body built of beer at 5'10 240 lbs (this is low level Swedish hockey). This guy played himself all the time, and everyone else was like "XXXXXX what are you doing?", but he didn't listen.

I am sure Chytil would do the same; "Hey Nash, stay on the bench next shift I am up for it!"

BTW I checked the main board and was surprised to not see any "Chytil>>>>Hirscher"-threads, when are they coming?

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Wasn't he seeing first line minutes there?

Yes, but is that his fault? We have had Fast in the top-6 and people were complaining about that as well. It's not the player's fault he is put into that position. Just like it isn't Drury's fault he was offered that massive contract by Sather back in the day. Can't blame a guy for signing a multi-million dollar contract and can't blame a guy for trying his best.

I always liked DD in a bottom-6 role.

 

[Ola]

If Desharnais works out, Gorton deserves a ton of credit for his guts and vision.

Literally nobody else is willing to give small players a chance at bottom six roles.

I think it can work, but not with any type of linemates. And as things are shaping up now, and especially before Fast is back, I am not quite sure which linemates DD would get?

With that said -- just looking at any game, the best shifts are always the shifts where a team attack with speed and skill. Always. So why not play that style as often as possible? Sure there are arguments against that approach too, but having skill and speed on the depth line will probably be more common going forward.

 

[Krams]

I don't really understand the heaping praise for Desharnais. He looked like a bottom six guy who brings good energy. About what I was expecting.

 

[BBKers]

I don't really understand the heaping praise for Desharnais. He looked like a bottom six guy who brings good energy. About what I was expecting.

I think he was better than expected by most - but few people expected not much if anything from him. Does not make him the second coming of Mario but makes the signing easier to understand. Just one game so far, Lets not jump the Gun or anything but i was pleasently surprised in a very small sample size.

 

[Ghost of jas]

I don't really understand the heaping praise for Desharnais. He looked like a bottom six guy who brings good energy. About what I was expecting.

He was effective last night, and looks like he could be a positive addition. It looks like a smart signing. Roll out a 4th line of Grabner/DD/Fast, and you have the makings of an elite 4th line that you can deploy on a regular basis and probaly don't have to shelter.

 

[ManUtdTobbe]

I thought DD looked good, a 4th liner that can skate and has hands, can move up the lineup if we're struck with injuries.

 

[RangerBoy]

Gorton told Brooks the Rangers are sending Chytil to the Czech Republic IF the Rangers don't keep him around at the start of the season. He looked really good. Most of the times you don't notice the 18 year old prospect. There's this Bruins blogger who used to scout for the Redline Report. He believes teams will be kicking themselves for not taking Chytil before #21. Kirk Luedeke. He compared the selection to the Bruins selection of Krejci and Pasternak in his New England Journal Hockey draft preview. The latter was #25 in 2014. His play in camp forced the Bruins to keep him in 14-15. I have the screenshot on my MacBook at home. How do I post it later tonight? Zibanejad,Chytil and Andersson. The Rangers can be really strong down the middle for a long time in a year or two. That's how to build a team for long term success. Gorton said last week trying to acquire centers and D is very difficult. He added three young centers in two summers. Hopefully at least one of the young D can establish himself as a legit NHL D. Pionk and ADA. Skate,shoot and move the puck. The Rangers have tried to acquire Barrie(13-14),Honka(summer of 2015) and Vatanen(13-14). Pionk and ADA fit that mold.

 

[Irishguy42]

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[egelband]

Will Lakatos get to play in the preseason? He seems intriguing.

 

[East Coast Bias]

Can't have a rookie on the fourth line.

Because of limited playing time, or responsibility?

 

[Avery16]

If Chytil makes third line, then Nash should get moved

 

[Gardner McKay]

If Chytil makes third line, then Nash should get moved

Why? On a team that has cup aspirations, why the hell would you trade Nash? Because he has an expiring contract and we are so bereft of young talent that the 2nd round pick is going to make a huge difference in a few years? Please.

You keep Nash. You keep Nash. You keep Nash.

 

[E-Train]

Will Lakatos get to play in the preseason? He seems intriguing.

No. He's already playing in Europe and therefore did not attend training camp.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Will Lakatos get to play in the preseason? He seems intriguing.

He is in Liberec.

 

[RangerBoy]

 

[nyr2k2]

Will Lakatos get to play in the preseason? He seems intriguing.

Nah, he's like five games into his Euro team's season. He's over there for the year. Same for guys like Sjalin, Reunanen and (ugh) Bernhardt. And Shestyorkin, of course.