Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part LX

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

Ray Bourque 2.0 ha

Patrick Roy 2.0.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

So, there's little chance the team will do anything else today, right? I mean, I have to believe they give the King his own day, even if they do agree on a move with someone else...

 

[rangers1314]

I missed this, can you summarize what he said?

@Edge mentioned yesterday morning that Vegas has reached out Monday night and yesterday morning regarding ADA.

 

[bleedblue94]

I would bet you Lundqvist lost the locker room a little bit over the past couple seasons

Legend, and obviously respected in the locker room. But he wasn't good this year. And its hard to take someone seriously who should really just be worried about their own game.

And this may also bleed into why they traded Staal instead of just waiting it out one more year. These guys have been huge locker room presences, but when their play slips so dramatically AND you have a fresh group of elite players taking the reins it becomes a little disjointed. This may also play into why the team hasn't named a captain in the past couple years. Internally you know there was a leadership changeover happening just through the attrition of the roster, but you don't want to make that a public issue or display. Funny enough, CK is now the bridge from era to era and the changeover of the leadership group in the room. I'm hurting today bc of an end of an era, but I understand it completely.

 

[Kovalev27]

So, there's little chance the team will do anything else today, right? I mean, I have to believe they give the King his own day, even if they do agree on a move with someone else...

correct

 

[NYSPORTS]

Thanks

 

[Leetch3]

$12M+ in dead cap space due to buyouts is ... something. You could say they don’t need the space because they’re not contenders next year anyway. You could also say they’re not contenders next year because they can’t use the space.

as opposed to all the cap space we would have had by keeping hank at his full salary as a 3rd goalie and fox being stuck in hartford behind shattenkirk to avoid dead space?

 

[motopanekeku]

Great, now who are the accountability guys in that room?

Zib, Kreider, Fast, Trouba, Panarin, maybe even DeAngelo. If you mean who are the declining veterans on unwieldy contracts? No one.

Wait until the team is in position to make a run. I'm sure we'll see a grizzly vet or two on the team. Who knows maybe even on a decent contract.

 

[bleedblue94]

@Edge mentioned yesterday morning that Vegas has reached out Monday night and yesterday morning regarding ADA.

Oh thanks, I knew that, I had a brain fart and read desert and thought coyotes

 

[Kovalev27]

Good points here

imo this is Mika’s team now. I expect Trouba to wear a letter along with Kreider.

 

[bleedblue94]

Patrick Roy 2.0.

Roy was already a cup champ from 93, The twilight season in Colorado for a first cup is very much a Bourque thing.

 

[Trxjw]

From 31 Thoughts that's relevant to what we've discussed here before:

8. No confirmation from team and/or agents, but word is Carolina was willing to look at eight years, $7.5 million per year on an Andrei Svechnikov extension. That’s not low, but the player is willing to bet on himself to do even better, which is why this might end up being a bridge deal — for now.

Could be indicative of what a Kakko 2nd contract might look like following a breakout 2nd season. Something to keep an eye on.

11. On the Instigators radio show, Buffalo GM Kevyn Adams told Andrew Peters and Craig Rivet: “People make phone calls and ask about players every day. My job is to listen…. We have no intention and we’re not looking to do anything with Jack Eichel.”

The Sabres paid Eichel a $7.5-million bonus this season. Seventy-five per cent of his 2020–21 salary is paid. It is absolutely senseless for them to make an Eichel trade for this reason. But if things don’t get better, we are going to revisit this topic next spring.

All the Eichel news.

17. Washington is trying to move money to keep Brenden Dillon.

Possible FA target linked to the Rangers.

21. Calgary is checking in on every available goalie. I think the Flames talked with Columbus, too, but that’s cooled down. Depending on what’s available, they could do a big revamp of their blue line. When talking about Taylor Hall with New Jersey, Noah Hanifin’s name was discussed.

Everyone's favorite team to discuss and alleged Brady Skjei redux.

22. I also wonder if the Coyotes test the market on Clayton Keller.

Always a crowd pleaser.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

Roy was already a cup champ from 93, The twilight season in Colorado for a first cup is very much a Bourque thing.

Well, you went with the not yet a Cup champ going for a Cup; I went with the aging goalie great synonymous with his franchise going to a new team for one last shot at glory.

 

[Leetch3]

I figured he would know what teams are interested but this kind of makes it sound like he doesn't know yet and will see what offers are there.

 

[LaffyTaffyNYR]

Lot of people harping on the 13m in dead cap space this season. We have 23m in space which is plenty to sign all of our RFAs, then still enough to do a little shopping come October 9th if we so choose. This doesn't take into account any prospective trades. When we have more than 1/3 of our roster on ELCs and 23m in cap space, the dead cap space for 1 season has hardly any effect on us at all. Sure we can't go out and sign a big UFA fish, but are there even any out there that fit our makeup?

This, also 23M cap is alot to work with. If a trade comes along the Rangers like for a LHD or 2C etc, they simply don't sign or they trade ADA and/or Strome. Its alot of dead cap for a year but I doubt it hinders anything the Rangers do.

 

[Leetch3]

From 31 Thoughts that's relevant to what we've discussed here before:



Could be indicative of what a Kakko 2nd contract might look like following a breakout 2nd season. Something to keep an eye on.



All the Eichel news.



Possible FA target linked to the Rangers.



Everyone's favorite team to discuss and alleged Brady Skjei redux.



Always a crowd pleaser.

That would be a fantastic deal for carolina...kid is a stud

 

[Kovalev27]

I still think as I’ve said he will retire. He may very well want to see if there’s someone out there willing to trust him with the starting net but in the end I don’t think that will happen. And when it doesn’t maybe then he calls it a career.

 

[Trxjw]

That would be a fantastic deal for carolina...kid is a stud

Agreed. Can see they're trying to put the `Aho is better so you can't make more` squeeze on him before they run into a Toronto-esque situation.

 

[Beer League Sniper]

Lot of people harping on the 13m in dead cap space this season. We have 23m in space which is plenty to sign all of our RFAs, then still enough to do a little shopping come October 9th if we so choose. This doesn't take into account any prospective trades. When we have more than 1/3 of our roster on ELCs and 23m in cap space, the dead cap space for 1 season has hardly any effect on us at all. Sure we can't go out and sign a big UFA fish, but are there even any out there that fit our makeup?

In two years time, I hope we can be where COL is right now. A team that is almost there, super young, and with a ton of cap space available to help get them over the top. We need to be really smart about how we use our cap space right now. Stay away from long-term commitments unless the deal is too good to pass up. I expect some bargain bin shopping to help bolster the lineup a bit and obtain the necessary exposures needed for the expansion draft. Maybe you pull the trigger on a bigger deal, but cap in needs to equal cap out (again, unless the deal is too good to pass up).

I'm not worried about the dead cap this season. Not in the least. Most of it has been added since "the letter," so clearly this was part of the plan to use the space when we weren't going to need it. It's part of the rebuild.

 

[GAGLine]

I think what we are going to see is Gorton making other trades to fill the gaps in the roster. The space we have now means we don't have to worry about saving cap in future deals. We can bring back equal cap, or even slightly more, if we don't intend to re-sign Fast.

 

[Gospel of Prospal]

Good points here

imo this is Mika’s team now. I expect Trouba to wear a letter along with Kreider.

It's Mika and Panarin's team right now, but it's going to be Laf and Kakko's team in the future

 

[bigdog16]

And this may also bleed into why they traded Staal instead of just waiting it out one more year. These guys have been huge locker room presences, but when their play slips so dramatically AND you have a fresh group of elite players taking the reins it becomes a little disjointed. This may also play into why the team hasn't named a captain in the past couple years. Internally you know there was a leadership changeover happening just through the attrition of the roster, but you don't want to make that a public issue or display. Funny enough, CK is now the bridge from era to era and the changeover of the leadership group in the room. I'm hurting today bc of an end of an era, but I understand it completely.

Very well put. You explained exactly what I was thinking better than I could

 

[NYR Viper]

I could see Gorton keying in on not just Fast, but at least 1 other veteran bottom-6 player. Whether that be via trade or UFA. I think the organization knows they must improve that portion of the team and throwing out:
Lafreniere, Chytil, Gauthier, Howden and Lemieux
in the bottom-6 every night is probably not the right path if the team wants to be successful.

 

[RangersFan1994]

31 Thoughts: With Stanley Cup awarded, NHL faces new questions - Sportsnet.ca

Dillon might not make it to UFA

 

[Boris Zubov]

Morning @Edge - any news on more phone calls from the desert?

Not the news you're looking for, but I plan on calling my sister from the desert today. It's her 50th birthday.

Yes please, I vote to ban the idiot.

You'll have to be more specific around here, Mr Swearengen,