Proposal: RNH + EDM 2018 1st(+?) for Dumba and Zucker

[Bazeek]

If you get Dumba for less than 50 mil over 8 years that is a bargain.

It's the sort of contract where the AAV probably goes up if we want more term, so you could be right about that.

 

[Vancouver Canucks]

lol what?

I'm in doubt.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

I think you're overestimating how much we don't want to think about retooling

Dumba's very good and I think his best years are ahead of him, he's just not the best player on the team right now. His contract may creep north of $6m, but it seems like it'll be possible to sign him for less than that. I don't have a good list of comparables in front of me to argue the point, though.

Best I could find was Ristolainen. Signed 6 x $5.4m (7.4% of the cap at the time) after a 9 goal, 41 point season. Difference is he was 2 years younger though, extension was right off the ELC.

 

[yababy]

If you get Dumba for less than 50 mil over 8 years that is a bargain.

Wild already have a 7.5M guy. Can't afford to pay any more than about 5.5m for any other Dman

 

[Bazeek]

Best I could find was Ristolainen. Signed 6 x $5.4m (7.4% of the cap at the time) after a 9 goal, 41 point season. Difference is he was 2 years younger though, extension was right off the ELC.

Yeah, the fact that he's coming off a bridge makes it trickier. Parayko signed for $5.5m, but I think he was also coming off an ELC.

 

[Bazeek]

Wild already have a 7.5M guy. Can't afford to pay any more than about 5.5m for any other Dman

We've been paying Spurgeon $5.5m for the past 2 years, but Dumba at $5.5m-$6.5m is a bridge too far?

 

[yababy]

Suter is 34 next year and coming off a major injury.

Suter has a full NMC and 7 more years at 7.5M.
That's a contract that's going to bury the Wild

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Suter has a full NMC and 7 more years at 7.5M.
That's a contract that's going to bury the Wild

And, barring future health issues, he'll be no worse than a really, really good #3D at any point during those 7 more years.

 

[ref88]

Wild already have a 7.5M guy. Can't afford to pay any more than about 5.5m for any other Dman

Nah, especially given that state of the cap that 7.5m guy is on a bargain contract.

 

[ref88]

Suter has a full NMC and 7 more years at 7.5M.
That's a contract that's going to bury the Wild

Pretty sure every team in the NHL would be lining up to sign Suter to a 7 yr 7.5m deal today.

 

[Bazeek]

Pretty sure every team in the NHL would be lining up to sign Suter to a 7 yr 7.5m deal today.

Dunno if I'd go that far, but Suter's on the short list of guys I don't mind paying $7.5m for until he's 40.

 

[ref88]

Dunno if I'd go that far, but Suter's on the short list of guys I don't mind paying $7.5m for until he's 40.

You Wild fans are incredibly modest.. Very refreshing, thank you for that.

 

[yababy]

Pretty sure every team in the NHL would be lining up to sign Suter to a 7 yr 7.5m deal today.

From ages 34 to 41?
Reality check time

 

[ref88]

From ages 34 to 41?
Reality check time

I don't get it.

 

[yababy]

I don't get it.

how many defencemen in the history of the NHL were worth a big contract to age 40?
Chelios, Chara.
Suter could drop off the map next year or the year after. Poof, just like that he's a 1M player.

His contract alone is the reason why the Wild need to restructure their back end before they can sign Dumba.
One of Suter, Spurgeon or Brodin have to go. And, if the Wild a rebuilding I think it should be Suter if you can find a patsy to take him.

 

[Bruce Granville]

how many defencemen in the history of the NHL were worth a big contract to age 40?
Chelios, Chara.
Suter could drop off the map next year or the year after. Poof, just like that he's a 1M player.

His contract alone is the reason why the Wild need to restructure their back end before they can sign Dumba.
One of Suter, Spurgeon or Brodin have to go. And, if the Wild a rebuilding I think it should be Suter if you can find a patsy to take him.

You have no idea, what Suter's game is, right?

 

[ref88]

how many defencemen in the history of the NHL were worth a big contract to age 40?
Chelios, Chara.
Suter could drop off the map next year or the year after. Poof, just like that he's a 1M player.

His contract alone is the reason why the Wild need to restructure their back end before they can sign Dumba.
One of Suter, Spurgeon or Brodin have to go. And, if the Wild a rebuilding I think it should be Suter if you can find a patsy to take him.

you are a bit out to lunch there bud. Wid trade a top 5 dman...real smart

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

how many defencemen in the history of the NHL were worth a big contract to age 40?
Chelios, Chara.
Suter could drop off the map next year or the year after. Poof, just like that he's a 1M player.

His contract alone is the reason why the Wild need to restructure their back end before they can sign Dumba.
One of Suter, Spurgeon or Brodin have to go. And, if the Wild a rebuilding I think it should be Suter if you can find a patsy to take him.

How does this not apply to any player, any age, anywhere?

 

[Digitalbooya]

So Dumba is a fantastic untouchable player worth way more than any of those guys...until it's time to pay him. Then he's only worth 5 mil.

Dumba is the Wild's best player. Think about that for a moment and then maybe you'll go a bit easier on Wild fans. Would you give up your teams best player?

The Wild paid their best offense creator only $5.75m/yr. It’s certainly possible and we will be sure to use Oiler fans’ arguments for why it should be under $6m. But that’s for a contract and not trading the player. Be sure you know the difference of the situations.

 

[ThePhoenixx]

The Wild paid their best offense creator only $5.75m/yr. It’s certainly possible and we will be sure to use Oiler fans’ arguments for why it should be under $6m. But that’s for a contract and not trading the player. Be sure you know the difference of the situations.

In this thread, not a single Oiler fan disparaged Dumba. Everyone wanted him.

Maybe a couple other fans of other teams.

I thought we were talking value. If Dumba is valuable, then he should be paid or traded as such. Remember, a 6 million dollar contract today = a 3 million dollar contract post lockout.

 

[thadd]

Strome is a third or fourth-liner at best. He can't produce points a great deal.

He produces more than well enough for a 3rd line at this point, he played on our bottom 6 and he produced quite well considering who he was playing with. Moves the puck well on the PP but nobody knew out to finish on the PP this year.

 

[zar]

how many defencemen in the history of the NHL were worth a big contract to age 40?
Chelios, Chara.
Suter could drop off the map next year or the year after. Poof, just like that he's a 1M player.

His contract alone is the reason why the Wild need to restructure their back end before they can sign Dumba.
One of Suter, Spurgeon or Brodin have to go. And, if the Wild a rebuilding I think it should be Suter if you can find a patsy to take him.

I am sure he'll just contract some skin disease in those last few years when his salary is $2M, $1M and $1M.

 

[elnewby]

Suter could still be an effective player until 40(barring injury, but he's been very healthy minus a freak incident this year). He's basically built for it. The guy has a superhuman amount of stamina, and his game allows him to take very, very few hits.

 

[TwiztedHeat]

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[TwiztedHeat]

Both Oiler pieces are > either Wild piece

Holy f*** is this stupid.