Player Discussion Rick Nash

[Irishguy42]

Also they can't because Nash has to be protected anyways.

Unless he agrees to waive, ofc. Just want to make sure that caveat is known.

That being said, Nash is on this team next year unless he gets traded.

 

[Doctor King Schultz]

How bad is a tweaked groin usually?

 

[RangerBlues]

Unless he agrees to waive, ofc. Just want to make sure that caveat is known.

That being said, Nash is on this team next year unless he gets traded.

How bad is a tweaked groin usually?

For Rick Nash
2-3 months

 

[Irishguy42]

How bad is a tweaked groin usually?

They're going to know how severe it is tomorrow.

 

[Algernop Kreider]

Why does Nash need to be protected? He already waived the NTC to come here.

 

[Thirty One]

Why does Nash need to be protected? He already waived the NTC to come here.

Because stuff and things.

 

[Chaels Arms]

He had a rush down the right wing tonight where he skated faster then I've seen him skate in a Rangers uniform. I didn't even realize it was him because it just looked strange seeing #61 in the Rangers uni skating at warp speed. Hope he's back soon, guy was playing really well.

 

[Doctor King Schultz]

Why does Nash need to be protected? He already waived the NTC to come here.

The Rangers chose to honor his NTC when he was traded.

 

[Algernop Kreider]

The Rangers chose to honor his NTC when he was traded.

That's not how it works. It's just a verbal agreement, and while I certainly don't think the Rangers should break that agreement, it's up for interpretation whether that agreement should cover expansion drafts.

That said, the only answer I can come up with is that since his NTC is only a limited one (12-team list), he didn't technically waive it before coming to NY.

 

[pld459666]

That's not how it works. It's just a verbal agreement, and while I certainly don't think the Rangers should break that agreement, it's up for interpretation whether that agreement should cover expansion drafts.

That said, the only answer I can come up with is that since his NTC is only a limited one (12-team list), he didn't technically waive it before coming to NY.

Incorrect.

Players that have NTC's that choose to waive do not waive it completely. The acquiring team can choose to honor the clause before the deal is done so the player knows what his future looks like.

Some players won't waive if the acquiring team won't honor the clause post transaction.

And no, it's not verbal.

 

[Crease]

As far as I understand things, the Columbus-NYR trade in no way implicated Nash's current limited-NTC, which didn't vest until 2015. The Rangers had no option but to honor it under the CBA.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

As far as I understand things, the Columbus-NYR trade in no way implicated Nash's current limited-NTC, which didn't vest until 2015. The Rangers had no option but to honor it under the CBA.

He had a NMC until 2015 and a NTC the rest of the contract. Under the old CBA, teams had the opportunity to not honor the future clauses in case of a trade. But it can be part of the negotiations. If Nash said he will only waive to go to NYR, if they honor his clause after the trade, there is nothing the Rangers can do if they really want him

 

[Irishguy42]

Teams have to honor clauses that are already active at the time of the trade, even if waived, IIRC. It's only future un-active clauses that teams can choose to not honor.

That was the whole thing with Subban and him being traded or not. He had an NMC that was to become active on July 1, 2016. So it was either Montreal hold onto him and then have to deal with his NMC in the future, or trade him before it became active and force some other team to deal with it/not honor it. In this case, Nashville decided not to honor it, so he no longer has an NMC (or any clause) on his contract.

Nash has an NMC on his contract through the whole deal, per CapFriendly. He had an upcoming MNTC starting in '15-'16, which Sather decided to honor when the trade was made.

 

[Crease]

He had a NMC until 2015 and a NTC the rest of the contract. Under the old CBA, teams had the opportunity to not honor the future clauses in case of a trade. But it can be part of the negotiations. If Nash said he will only waive to go to NYR, if they honor his clause after the trade, there is nothing the Rangers can do if they really want him

You're correct. I had it backwards this morning. Posting before coffee should be malpractice.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Teams have to honor clauses that are already active at the time of the trade, even if waived, IIRC. It's only future un-active clauses that teams can choose to not honor.

That was the whole thing with Subban and him being traded or not. He had an NMC that was to become active on July 1, 2016. So it was either Montreal hold onto him and then have to deal with his NMC in the future, or trade him before it became active and force some other team to deal with it/not honor it. In this case, Nashville decided not to honor it, so he no longer has an NMC (or any clause) on his contract.

Nash has an NMC on his contract through the whole deal, per CapFriendly. He had an upcoming MNTC starting in '15-'16, which Sather decided to honor when the trade was made.

That is true under the current CBA, but when we traded for Nash, we were still under the old CBA (2012)

 

[Irishguy42]

That is true under the current CBA, but when we traded for Nash, we were still under the old CBA (2012)

Fair enough. I don't 100% recall the old one.

 

[Inferno]

Fair enough. I don't 100% recall the old one.

You know nothing Jon Snow.

;-)

 

[chosen]

Getting an MRI, so it might be more than a tweak.

 

[GOAT AINEC]

Results are in.

1 week.

 

[Bluenote13]

1 week of healing, 16 weeks a 'lingering issue'.

 

[Doctor King Schultz]

1 week of healing, 16 weeks a 'lingering issue'.

More like 52 weeks knowing Nash

 

[5 4 Fighting]

Nash knows he's going strong this season, I suspect he's back in time for the next Hawks game, God knows we need the offense to get going.

 

[Ori]

Nash is back and ready with Amanda interview!

https://www.nhl.com/rangers/video/nash-on-returning-to-the-lineup/t-277443434/c-47388003

 

[Irishguy42]

Don't look now, but Nash is one goal shy of tying the team lead.

Great season for him so far, and it didn't look like the groin injury hindered him that much (if just going by last night)

 

[offdacrossbar]

nash looked like the best player on the ice last night.

when he plays like that, he is. hes an animal. hes doing everything with more speed this year and coming off the wall with a purpose.

he continues to impress me. i still think he was hurt last season.