Habs33
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Who has more offensive upside and who will be getting more pts career wise?....
An argument can be made in any direction on that one, I guess. Schremp with the biggest offensive upside would be my slim-margin guess, but O'Sullivan has many of the same traits. And if Richards plays like a winner for a long time on a lot of contenders, his career numbers might be better, even if his single-season upside isn't in the same category. Who knows?Habs33 said:Who has more offensive upside and who will be getting more pts career wise?....
AgentNaslund said:Schrep,but hes gota be with a winning team. Or else he will ask for trade.
Habs33 said:Who has more offensive upside and who will be getting more pts career wise?....
I don't know. Richards doesn't have the skating or the pure goal scoring ability, but I think he clearly has the best vision of the three. Add to that he will do anything to score a goal (kinda like Ryan Smyth in that regard) and he could put up very good numbers in this league.Rabid Ranger said:I see it this way:
Schremp
O'Sullivan
Richards
Richards, while a tremendous all-around player, just doesn't have the skill-level that Schremp and O'Sullivan do, and I think that will affect his production.
Gags1288 said:I don't know. Richards doesn't have the skating or the pure goal scoring ability, but I think he clearly has the best vision of the three. Add to that he will do anything to score a goal (kinda like Ryan Smyth in that regard) and he could put up very good numbers in this league.
Rabid Ranger said:Sorry, don't see it. I haven't seen or heard anything to believe that Richards is in any way superior to Schremp or O'Sullivan offensively. He's a good offensive player that adds in a healthy dose of grit and determination.
Gags1288 said:I don't know. Richards doesn't have the skating or the pure goal scoring ability, but I think he clearly has the best vision of the three. Add to that he will do anything to score a goal (kinda like Ryan Smyth in that regard) and he could put up very good numbers in this league.
Willis said:Well, lets be honest about one thing. If Richards becomes the next Ryan Smyth will anyone not want him on thier team? Hey at the end of the day if one of them has such a career no one will say their team had a bad draft pick.
Again, they are both certainly more dynamic players then Mike. But if you've seen them all play, it's very clear who the best playmaker of the three and really that's the easiest way to rack up points.Rabid Ranger said:Sorry, don't see it. I haven't seen or heard anything to believe that Richards is in any way superior to Schremp or O'Sullivan offensively. He's a good offensive player that adds in a healthy dose of grit and determination.
AgentNaslund said:This guy is not touted to be a top 6 foward.
Liquidrage said:...in fantasy hockey
Slight tangent because it's not directly in regards to the question, but to the quote.
For the Flyers he's being touted as a guy that will eventually wear the "C" and the type of guy that will lead a team in minutes.
He has enough offense (he had more PPG then Carter in the AHL playoffs) to go along with everything else (he had a nice fight last night apparently btw), that he's the type of guy coaches love to throw on the ice. He'll eventually get PP time, PK time, and most of all be the one they want out there in crunch time.
There's a lot of guys that are pure O that wouldn't get Top 6 minutes on a good team. And there's a lot of balanced guys (think Handzus) that get tons of minutes on good teams. Because it doesn't help your team win if you help give up as many points as your help create. And I'm hoping Richards turns out better then Handzus at pretty much everything, and Handzus is one of the most well rounded forwards in hockey so that's saying something.
Napoleon Dynamite said:Well, if it counts
Schremp is absolutely ripping it up in the pre-season.
He got did well in the Joey Moss Cup, scored 2 goals against the golden bears and 2 goals in his first pre season game. He scored a goal last game. He's a very opportunistic player. He knows where to be at the right time.
Before one of the Oilers practices, I saw Robbie set up a line of pucks from about 15 feet out. He hit the same part of the top corner 95% of the time. It was absolutely sick. People were in awe and amazed. You see, Edmonton doesn't get it's fair share of "skilled players" like this these days. His accuracy is better than most of the Oiler veterans.
Hfboards compares his playing style to Doug Weight... which i agree with to the extent of controling the powerplay. He is absolutely sick on the half boards. But overall, he reminds me of a former Oiler Mike Comrie. Comrie scored similar goals that Schremp has been scoring in the pre-season. According to his power-skating coach Liane Davis, his skating has improved tremendously and it has showed in training camp so far.
O'Sullivan has been more impressive so far and i can see why a lot of people would choose him over Schremp.
Which would you rather have?
Richards - I would liken him to Trevor Linden. Not in playing style but the fact that during Linden's prime he was as complete a player as you can get in the NHL. Richards may be that complete in the future however i can't picture him ever scoring 30 goals in the NHL.
O'Sullivan - It's up in the air. I'm not sure what type of player he is going to be in the NHl. I know he's quick, shifty, and intense. If you watch any of his teams play, he ussually stands out. He could be as good as a Samsonov or bust. I've seen him in the WJC's. He's very good. I would love to have him as a prospect.
Schremp - It's like watching Mike Comrie again. Schremp has a better skillset (excellent shot, dekeing, etc) but their playing styles are so much alike. Like Comrie and Weight, Robbie has a very wide stance when he skates. If he doesn't round out his game, he may be the next "forward version" of Andy Delmore (PP specialist). I like what i see so far in training camp. MacTavish has used him on the PK and he doesn't look out of place yet. Although he's scoring a lot of goals, it is only preseason and i wouldn't mind him leading a weakend London Knights team this year. This will only help his development.