Richards Vs Schremp Vs O'sullivan
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CharlieGirl
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Schremp has more offensive upside.
O'Sullivan will be interesting to watch - he was dangerous every time he was on the ice in junior. If he can take that to the NHL, he'll be good, very good.
I think Richards will have a lot of points over a long period of time, but I don't know if he'll get the points that Schremp will (not that he won't get points, but I suspect he'll get a lot more assists than goals).
O'Sullivan will be interesting to watch - he was dangerous every time he was on the ice in junior. If he can take that to the NHL, he'll be good, very good.
I think Richards will have a lot of points over a long period of time, but I don't know if he'll get the points that Schremp will (not that he won't get points, but I suspect he'll get a lot more assists than goals).
Bookman
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Thanks for at least adding Richards to what is the 3rd Schremp or O'Sullivan thread in recent memory.
I hope it's O'Sullivan, but who knows?
I hope it's O'Sullivan, but who knows?
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Schremp has more offensive upside. He have all what he needs to be a star (maybe not his skating, but there's report that he have improved it). I hope that he makes the team this year and so do Pouliot.
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Habs33 said:
An argument can be made in any direction on that one, I guess. Schremp with the biggest offensive upside would be my slim-margin guess, but O'Sullivan has many of the same traits. And if Richards plays like a winner for a long time on a lot of contenders, his career numbers might be better, even if his single-season upside isn't in the same category. Who knows?Anyway, Biggest Richards Fan In The World right here, so I'd take him on my team well ahead of Schremp or O'Sullivan, even if he scores 20 pts a season less than they do.
MojoJojo
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I cant really comment as I've never really watched Schremp or Osullivan play, but man have I been impressed with Richards. He's like a young Ron Francis with the killer instinct and physical play of Mike Ricci. I am starting to think that he is actually better than his team mate and fellow 03 pick Jeff Carter.
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Schrep,but hes gota be with a winning team. Or else he will ask for trade.
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Mike Richards. This guy is not touted to be a top 6 foward.
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Schrep,but hes gota be with a winning team. Or else he will ask for trade.
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Mike Richards. This guy is not touted to be a top 6 foward.
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AgentNaslund said:
You really don't know anything about him at all, do you?
O'Sullivan was the only player in the OHL last year that scared me every time he was on the ice. Schremp has a higher upside, but I'd rather have O'Sullivan as I think he's more likely to make it and stick around.
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Rabid Ranger
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Habs33 said:
I see it this way:
Schremp
O'Sullivan
Richards
Richards, while a tremendous all-around player, just doesn't have the skill-level that Schremp and O'Sullivan do, and I think that will affect his production.
I don't know. Richards doesn't have the skating or the pure goal scoring ability, but I think he clearly has the best vision of the three. Add to that he will do anything to score a goal (kinda like Ryan Smyth in that regard) and he could put up very good numbers in this league.Rabid Ranger said:
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Gags1288 said:
Sorry, don't see it. I haven't seen or heard anything to believe that Richards is in any way superior to Schremp or O'Sullivan offensively. He's a good offensive player that adds in a healthy dose of grit and determination.
Rabid Ranger said:
I don't believe that Richards is as gifted offensively as Schremp or O'Sullivan either. Schrempy has some amazing skills.
However - and take this from a *knights fan* who has seen a lot of all 3 of them - I'd take Richards in a heartbeat given the choice of the 3.
Tom
Gags1288 said:
Well, lets be honest about one thing. If Richards becomes the next Ryan Smyth will anyone not want him on thier team? Hey at the end of the day if one of them has such a career no one will say their team had a bad draft pick.
Willis said:
IMO Richards is very underrated by a lot of people. Anyone who has followed him closely in the OHL or AHL (obviously only briefly last season) knows just how much of a leader and a fantastic player he is.
Again, they are both certainly more dynamic players then Mike. But if you've seen them all play, it's very clear who the best playmaker of the three and really that's the easiest way to rack up points.Rabid Ranger said:
He's a good offensive player who adds a good dose of grit, determination, two-way ability, heart, leadership, and ability to raise his game when needed. If given the choice between the three, it's really not all that close, imo.
O'Sullivans a really good playmaker to. He got like 59 assists and led the team into the playoffs on his Missasauga team that had very little talent on it besides him.
I think O'Sullivan will be a much better scorer than Schremp. O'Sullivan has a much better overall skills package. I still have my doubts about Schremp, too. Of course, with both of them, you can't help but discuss their perceived character flaws.
Overall, it's no contest. Mike Richards will be better than any of them. Richards will one day captain a team to a Stanley Cup.
Overall, it's no contest. Mike Richards will be better than any of them. Richards will one day captain a team to a Stanley Cup.
AgentNaslund said:
...in fantasy hockey
Slight tangent because it's not directly in regards to the question, but to the quote.
For the Flyers he's being touted as a guy that will eventually wear the "C" and the type of guy that will lead a team in minutes.
He has enough offense (he had more PPG then Carter in the AHL playoffs) to go along with everything else (he had a nice fight last night apparently btw), that he's the type of guy coaches love to throw on the ice. He'll eventually get PP time, PK time, and most of all be the one they want out there in crunch time.
There's a lot of guys that are pure O that wouldn't get Top 6 minutes on a good team. And there's a lot of balanced guys (think Handzus) that get tons of minutes on good teams. Because it doesn't help your team win if you help give up as many points as your help create. And I'm hoping Richards turns out better then Handzus at pretty much everything, and Handzus is one of the most well rounded forwards in hockey so that's saying something.
bert
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Richards is more of a lock to play significant minutes in the nhl this season. He is the best all around player, and he elivates his game against tougher competition. I just cant pick either of Schremp or O' Sullivan over him he just brings to much Dougy G to his game.
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Liquidrage said:
Carter 21GP 12-11-23 == 1.095 PPG
Richards 14GP 7-8-15 == 1.071 PPG
in reality, basically the same... but Carter did have a higher PPG in the AHL playoffs... i love them both though.
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Schremp is absolutely ripping it up in the pre-season.
He got did well in the Joey Moss Cup, scored 2 goals against the golden bears and 2 goals in his first pre season game. He scored a goal last game. He's a very opportunistic player. He knows where to be at the right time.
Before one of the Oilers practices, I saw Robbie set up a line of pucks from about 15 feet out. He hit the same part of the top corner 95% of the time. It was absolutely sick. People were in awe and amazed. You see, Edmonton doesn't get it's fair share of "skilled players" like this these days. His accuracy is better than most of the Oiler veterans.
Hfboards compares his playing style to Doug Weight... which i agree with to the extent of controling the powerplay. He is absolutely sick on the half boards. But overall, he reminds me of a former Oiler Mike Comrie. Comrie scored similar goals that Schremp has been scoring in the pre-season. According to his power-skating coach Liane Davis, his skating has improved tremendously and it has showed in training camp so far.
O'Sullivan has been more impressive so far and i can see why a lot of people would choose him over Schremp.
Which would you rather have?
Richards - I would liken him to Trevor Linden. Not in playing style but the fact that during Linden's prime he was as complete a player as you can get in the NHL. Richards may be that complete in the future however i can't picture him ever scoring 30 goals in the NHL.
O'Sullivan - It's up in the air. I'm not sure what type of player he is going to be in the NHl. I know he's quick, shifty, and intense. If you watch any of his teams play, he ussually stands out. He could be as good as a Samsonov or bust. I've seen him in the WJC's. He's very good. I would love to have him as a prospect.
Schremp - It's like watching Mike Comrie again. Schremp has a better skillset (excellent shot, dekeing, etc) but their playing styles are so much alike. Like Comrie and Weight, Robbie has a very wide stance when he skates. If he doesn't round out his game, he may be the next "forward version" of Andy Delmore (PP specialist). I like what i see so far in training camp. MacTavish has used him on the PK and he doesn't look out of place yet. Although he's scoring a lot of goals, it is only preseason and i wouldn't mind him leading a weakend London Knights team this year. This will only help his development.
Schremp is absolutely ripping it up in the pre-season.
He got did well in the Joey Moss Cup, scored 2 goals against the golden bears and 2 goals in his first pre season game. He scored a goal last game. He's a very opportunistic player. He knows where to be at the right time.
Before one of the Oilers practices, I saw Robbie set up a line of pucks from about 15 feet out. He hit the same part of the top corner 95% of the time. It was absolutely sick. People were in awe and amazed. You see, Edmonton doesn't get it's fair share of "skilled players" like this these days. His accuracy is better than most of the Oiler veterans.
Hfboards compares his playing style to Doug Weight... which i agree with to the extent of controling the powerplay. He is absolutely sick on the half boards. But overall, he reminds me of a former Oiler Mike Comrie. Comrie scored similar goals that Schremp has been scoring in the pre-season. According to his power-skating coach Liane Davis, his skating has improved tremendously and it has showed in training camp so far.
O'Sullivan has been more impressive so far and i can see why a lot of people would choose him over Schremp.
Which would you rather have?
Richards - I would liken him to Trevor Linden. Not in playing style but the fact that during Linden's prime he was as complete a player as you can get in the NHL. Richards may be that complete in the future however i can't picture him ever scoring 30 goals in the NHL.
O'Sullivan - It's up in the air. I'm not sure what type of player he is going to be in the NHl. I know he's quick, shifty, and intense. If you watch any of his teams play, he ussually stands out. He could be as good as a Samsonov or bust. I've seen him in the WJC's. He's very good. I would love to have him as a prospect.
Schremp - It's like watching Mike Comrie again. Schremp has a better skillset (excellent shot, dekeing, etc) but their playing styles are so much alike. Like Comrie and Weight, Robbie has a very wide stance when he skates. If he doesn't round out his game, he may be the next "forward version" of Andy Delmore (PP specialist). I like what i see so far in training camp. MacTavish has used him on the PK and he doesn't look out of place yet. Although he's scoring a lot of goals, it is only preseason and i wouldn't mind him leading a weakend London Knights team this year. This will only help his development.
Napoleon Dynamite said:
Schremp may have improved his skating but I dont get the comparison to Weight.
At least while Weight was in Edmonton, he was a good (maybe very good) skater. It remains to be seen if Scremp is going to be an adequate skater.
Weight was also a supreme playmaker (imo, one of the top 3 or so in the league). Schremp may be a decent playmaker but his "schtick" is his shot.
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