Grate n Colorful Oz
Hutson Hawk
After turning every stone, all they could find was a sacrificial lambfevre
The question is, if that comes to pass (and its probably likely), will there be a qualified candidate available?
Like i said for Lefebvre, it's much more about who's coming in than it is about who's going out. I don't want lateral moves, i expect a change in the philosophy...not just some french name hire to calm the Fans down.
Marc Bergevin - Defense
Claude Julien - Defense
Larry Carrière - Defense
JJ Daignault - Defense
Francis Bouillon - Defense
Rob Ramage - Defense
Sylvain Lefebvre - Defense
Michel Therrien - Defense
Martin Lapointe - Middle-six grinder
Scott Melanby - Middle-six grinder
Dan Lacroix - Middle-six grinder
Rick Dudley - Grinder
Shane Churla - Grinder
Then we shouldn't be surprise that this organisation value grinders more than skills and that everything has to be defense first. Bunch of ex-Dmen and Ex-Grinder are running this organisation top to bottom.
No wonders why they chose guys like Julien or Therrien and goes out of their way to get players like Shaw and Alzner. And no suprise they traded Weber for Subban.
Muller is probably feeling alone in there...
I expect this mentality to change. Hire some offensive-minded poeple....Like Yzerman/Verbeek/Kurvers in Tampa. This will matter a lot more than just firing poeple. And of course, on-ice move will be even more critical for Bergevin.
"qualified candidate" is a low priority on the list when it comes to hiring a GM.....that is how we ended up with MB,
language, and somebody who can communicate well to the media are far more important, then how the GM does his actual job
I prefer to translate that literally as confidence men i.e. con men.Leclerc refers to Lapointe and Riendeau as "hommes de confiance" -- basically, right hand men. That presupposes a high level of confidence. What exactly did both of them do to deserve such a high degree of trust? These guys must have already had a lot of influence while the team committed repeated blunders. And yet here we are with more reshuffling of the deck. It's difficult as a fan, to not remain skeptical.
Image is everything."qualified candidate" is a low priority on the list when it comes to hiring a GM.....that is how we ended up with MB,
language, and somebody who can communicate well to the media are far more important, then how the GM does his actual job
Huge problem for the Habs..........they are so concerned on how they are perceived.Image is everything.
And another issue, in a list of issues for me is that this organization has not clued into the fact that it is not a destination team. Be it because of taxes, media , the intensity etc, this does not appear to be at the top of the list for places a player wants to come to.
We saw this most of all when poor Gainey was going around trying to bring in good UFAs and despite real effort and willingness to overpay he was constantly turned down.
So accept we may have to overpay and x plus $1 may not cut it.
Huge problem for the Habs..........they are so concerned on how they are perceived.
Like i said for Lefebvre, it's much more about who's coming in than it is about who's going out. I don't want lateral moves, i expect a change in the philosophy...not just some french name hire to calm the Fans down.
Marc Bergevin - Defense
Claude Julien - Defense
Larry Carrière - Defense
JJ Daignault - Defense
Francis Bouillon - Defense
Rob Ramage - Defense
Sylvain Lefebvre - Defense
Michel Therrien - Defense
Martin Lapointe - Middle-six grinder
Scott Melanby - Middle-six grinder
Dan Lacroix - Middle-six grinder
Rick Dudley - Grinder
Shane Churla - Grinder
Then we shouldn't be surprise that this organisation value grinders more than skills and that everything has to be defense first. Bunch of ex-Dmen and Ex-Grinder are running this organisation top to bottom.
No wonders why they chose guys like Julien or Therrien and goes out of their way to get players like Shaw and Alzner. And no suprise they traded Weber for Subban.
Muller is probably feeling alone in there...
I expect this mentality to change. Hire some offensive-minded poeple....Like Yzerman/Verbeek/Kurvers in Tampa. This will matter a lot more than just firing poeple. And of course, on-ice move will be even more critical for Bergevin.
I would understand if you had written "I hope this mentality will change" but I'm not sure how you can say "I expect this mentality to change". The mentality has been in place for the better part of a quarter century and counting. We have no reason to expect that to change. Should it change? Definitely. Will it change? Of course not. It won't change because they keep hiring the same type of people to run the show; they perpetuate themselves.
When Bergevin is eventually fired, Molson is going to do precisely what he did after Gauthier was fired: he's going to ask Serge Savard (or someone hanging around the team who thinks just like him) to run the interview process and recommend a replacement. Under those conditions, what are the odds that anyone who believes in 21st Century, offense-first hockey is going to be referred to Molson as a candidate? The odds are slim and none (and "slim" just got on the bus)
Like I've said before: the Habs are IBM. They're going to hire another empty suit who doesn't take risks. Stop pretending that they will ever hire the next Steve Jobs. As it is, they won't even consider Pierre McGuire for the job, and he's not exactly a free-thinking anarchist himself. He just seems that way compared to the dinosaurs the Habs always choose.
I agree. Unfortunately Molson is as delusional as Bergevin and I don't think he's telling his GM about the type of hockey he'd like to see the team play. He leaves it to Bergevin to decide how best to build a team. He just wants a team that wins enough to keep critics off his back. He wants season ticket subscriptions renewed, TV deals renewed, and revenues to keep going up. How this is achieved is less important. So as long as the fans keep supporting the product Molson will never have any incentive to question the way he does business. So it really boils down to the paying customers more than to the owner. Fans have to get the attention of the owner by denying him his money.This starts and ends with the owner.
If he tells his new GM that he wants a Cup and to build to that, but at the very least he wants uptempo, exciting hockey to entertain the fans, then that is the GMs mandate to fulfill.
Things flow from that. GM knows getting a defense first coach does not meet owners directive, so he doesnt.
GM tells head scout skill and speed are key BPA critirea, (not CHaracter).
This falls on Molson.
Julien Brisebois is the most qualified candidate out there. ...
So wait.
The AHL assistants are not fired and it will be up to the new coach to " decide" whether to go to the GM and tell him he doesn't want the GMs son as an
assistant
Lol.
Total embarrassment of an organization.
Larry Carrière continuing to get outed on twitter. The optics are especially bad with Larry being consulted on the decision to fire Lefebvre.
I wonder if Bergevin consulted Carrière on what to do about his son. Fans are tired of the cronyism.
Good thing Larry gave a ringing endorsement of the Rocket's coaching staff just before Lefebvre was canned ...
Let's just be honest, we all know MB should be fired...you have to cut off the head of the problem...I may have just reached my end point. Thought it would come when MB started making player moved but this might be it.
We had a Presser where we were promised blah blah blah.
If true, if true, that it is thought completely reasonable that a new coach is sincerely going to be given the "choice "of telling Larry that he doesnt want his son as an assistant, well oh my God.
Immediately the coach will be seen as a yes man buffoon if the " child " is kept on.
I actually visualize MB shaking his butt at us and laughing. He is a liar and treats us as idiots and with the greatest contempt.
I see Molson as emasculated by MB.
Either the assistants must be fired before the new coach is hired
, or Molson must act on this latest outrage and fire MB. If Molson does not do this ( and just say that based on recent events it is evident to him that a new direction must be taken ), then he is not just a lousy owner, but he is not a man. No self respecting man would allow an employee to make him look like a clown like this.
Like i said for Lefebvre, it's much more about who's coming in than it is about who's going out. I don't want lateral moves, i expect a change in the philosophy...not just some french name hire to calm the Fans down.
Marc Bergevin - Defense
Claude Julien - Defense
Larry Carrière - Defense
JJ Daignault - Defense
Francis Bouillon - Defense
Rob Ramage - Defense
Sylvain Lefebvre - Defense
Michel Therrien - Defense
Martin Lapointe - Middle-six grinder
Scott Melanby - Middle-six grinder
Dan Lacroix - Middle-six grinder
Rick Dudley - Grinder
Shane Churla - Grinder
Then we shouldn't be surprise that this organisation value grinders more than skills and that everything has to be defense first. Bunch of ex-Dmen and Ex-Grinder are running this organisation top to bottom.
No wonders why they chose guys like Julien or Therrien and goes out of their way to get players like Shaw and Alzner. And no suprise they traded Weber for Subban.
Muller is probably feeling alone in there...
I expect this mentality to change. Hire some offensive-minded poeple....Like Yzerman/Verbeek/Kurvers in Tampa. This will matter a lot more than just firing poeple. And of course, on-ice move will be even more critical for Bergevin.
Like i said for Lefebvre, it's much more about who's coming in than it is about who's going out. I don't want lateral moves, i expect a change in the philosophy...not just some french name hire to calm the Fans down.
Marc Bergevin - Defense
Claude Julien - Defense
Larry Carrière - Defense
JJ Daignault - Defense
Francis Bouillon - Defense
Rob Ramage - Defense
Sylvain Lefebvre - Defense
Michel Therrien - Defense
Martin Lapointe - Middle-six grinder
Scott Melanby - Middle-six grinder
Dan Lacroix - Middle-six grinder
Rick Dudley - Grinder
Shane Churla - Grinder
Then we shouldn't be surprise that this organisation value grinders more than skills and that everything has to be defense first. Bunch of ex-Dmen and Ex-Grinder are running this organisation top to bottom.
No wonders why they chose guys like Julien or Therrien and goes out of their way to get players like Shaw and Alzner. And no suprise they traded Weber for Subban.
Muller is probably feeling alone in there...
I expect this mentality to change. Hire some offensive-minded poeple....Like Yzerman/Verbeek/Kurvers in Tampa. This will matter a lot more than just firing poeple. And of course, on-ice move will be even more critical for Bergevin.
I read this post earlier today and was listening to Melnick and within the past 30 minutes he brought up pretty much this post about the Habs including the AHL staff as well. He asked Gallo name the last person the Habs have hired other than Muller who was considered an offensive player and Gallo couldn't give him an answer.
As we both just posted, this is yet another argument for Bergevin to have more personnel who have been both offensively dominant players and who have the experience to assume a high level management position. It could also be done via the naming of assistant managers with records of success, plucked out of the major junior leagues. There need to be individuals who bring in a new approach.