Rumor: Rasmus Sandin negotiations "going nowhere"

[Petey But Really Jim]

Yeah, I do.

Fair enough!

 

[M2Beezy]

If he can play the right side I could see a Dickinson Sandin swap working out for both teams

 

[TS Quint]

And Dermott was given ample opportunity, including time in the Leafs top 4 to show what he can do. The suggestion that Dermott was developmentally hindered by lack of opportunity doesn't line up with what actually happened with him in Toronto.

There's nothing suggesting they also won't do the same for Sandin when he eventually signs an extension

Sandin didn't get any chances last year?

 

[Leaf Fans]

Sandin didn't get any chances last year?

He played in 51 games until he was injured. He didn't come off the IR until early May, but didn't get into any playoff games.

 

[LeafGrief]

He played in 51 games until he was injured. He didn't come off the IR until early May, but didn't get into any playoff games.

He played in every regular season game he was healthy for, as I recall. Averaged 17 minutes a game. Was sidelined with a knee injury in December and then another knee injury in March. Was healthy for the playoffs and not put into any playoff games.

I think narratives about him not being given opportunities are nonsense. He was a roster regular for an entire year.

 

[innitfam]

If he can play the right side I could see a Dickinson Sandin swap working out for both teams

Vancouver would need to add something

 

[Holymakinaw]

Are we still talking about Rasmus Sandin?

Jesus, bring back Hockey already.

 

[A1LeafNation]

Are we still talking about Rasmus Sandin?

Jesus, bring back Hockey already.

Lol agree. He is basically our #7 dman and everyone acting like it's the end of the world.

 

[Phion Keneuf]

Lol agree. He is basically our #7 dman and everyone acting like it's the end of the world.

In all fairness, it was not too long ago when everyone thought he’d eventually surpass Rielly as our top D

 

[Michel Beauchamp]

In all fairness, it was not too long ago when everyone thought he’d eventually surpass Rielly as our top D

Thanks for your honesty.

 

[Holymakinaw]

In all fairness, it was not too long ago when everyone thought he’d eventually surpass Rielly as our top D

I always laughed at that suggestion. It wasn't "everyone" but I agree that it was some.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Fair enough!

I love your avatar. What movie is that from again?

 

[TheGreenTBer]

In all fairness, it was not too long ago when everyone thought he’d eventually surpass Rielly as our top D

I sure as shit didn't, and neither did anyone else that was looking at the situation objectively.

I'm not intending to dump the following thought on you specifically, but...this site has projected generalizations onto fanbases for many years. I mean, take one look at the Leafs board and you're going to see people constantly arguing. I first posted on the Leafs board in 2005 and even moderated it at one point, I can attest to the board being that way at least since that time. There is no single Leaf fan voice, or Canadiens fan voice, or anything like that. Fanbases are not monolithic entities and should not be treated as such. Hating a team because of a general fanbase is one thing, but projecting some general fanbase opinion (whatever it is) upon a single member of that fanbase was, is and will forever be horseshit.

 

[Petey But Really Jim]

I love your avatar. What movie is that from again?

Thank you! It’s from Harold & Kumar Escape From Guantanamo Bay.

 

[Strangle]

The Leafs just aren't at a point where they can baby a player through his development curve. Maybe some teams would gift Sandin a bigger opportunity. But Toronto wants to win now, and if that mandate makes it harder for a prospect to hit his NHL stride, then so be it. That's why Sandin is struggling to find an NHL groove, and that's why he seems unhappy with his current role.

This should be a surprise to no one, as it's exactly what just happened to Travis Dermott. Except he didn't complain when he got lowballed as an RFA.

What’s wrong with a guy coming in over-ready as opposed to learning on the job anyway?

If there are 3 better LD on the team, that seems like a you problem if you want playing time. Beat one of them out for a job, you’re a professional you’ve presumably been doing this your whole life, proving yourself. Do it again!

I’d love to see Sandin in a regular role on this team, but he’s gotta be better than the rest to get there.

The only way a player would quit trying to make this team so they could go to a weaker team is because they don’t think they can do it or that they feel entitled to a spot because they believe they are already better than someone ahead of them.

I don’t like either of those head spaces

 

[Habs Halifax]

Thank you! It’s from Harold & Kumar Escape From Guantanamo Bay.

Ah yes, now I remember. I knew I seen the movie but couldn't remember.

 

[Ace Card Bedard]

Kerfoot and Sandin

for

Either Connor Murphy or Jake McCabe with 25% retention.

 

[CanadasTeam]

Cant believe this fake news really happenned

 

[TheKrebsCycle]

Kerfoot and Sandin

for

Either Connor Murphy or Jake McCabe with 25% retention.

McCabe Is a left d and not good . Murphy might work but the price doesn't.

 

[Leaf Fans]

Are we still talking about Rasmus Sandin?

Jesus, bring back Hockey already.

There were 15 pages of Hari Satari getting claimed off waviers from Toronto and that was at or near the trade deadline.

 

[Tarmore]

In all fairness, it was not too long ago when everyone thought he’d eventually surpass Rielly as our top D

EVERYONE?!?

Really?

 

[ITM]

Are we still talking about Rasmus Sandin?

Jesus, bring back Hockey already.

He always does, brother. He always does.

 

[Space umpire]

Kerfoot and Sandin

for

Either Connor Murphy or Jake McCabe with 25% retention.

I know you’re a Hawk fan. Why do you think this helps Chicago?
Both Leaf players do nothing for the Hawks. Kerfoot is meh with a huge cap number.
Chicago has a bunch of Sandin’s on the way.

I’d give them Entwistle and a Dman (retained)
For Holl and a 1st.
They can add Kerfoot for cap purposes. But that shouldn’t cost Chicago anything. If he has so much value Toronto can trade him to team xx for a 3rd then do this trade.

 

[Space umpire]

He played in every regular season game he was healthy for, as I recall. Averaged 17 minutes a game. Was sidelined with a knee injury in December and then another knee injury in March. Was healthy for the playoffs and not put into any playoff games.

I think narratives about him not being given opportunities are nonsense. He was a roster regular for an entire year.

And he played well getting regular ice time prior to the injury.
Came back and now if he wants to see the ice it will be on his off side.

 

[Weltschmerz]

I know you’re a Hawk fan. Why do you think this helps Chicago?
Both Leaf players do nothing for the Hawks. Kerfoot is meh with a huge cap number.
Chicago has a bunch of Sandin’s on the way.

I’d give them Entwistle and a Dman (retained)
For Holl and a 1st.
They can add Kerfoot for cap purposes. But that shouldn’t cost Chicago anything. If he has so much value Toronto can trade him to team xx for a 3rd then do this trade.

Makes no sense for a rebuilding team to retain for multiple years and block that retention slot.
If they retain on Kane and Toews they can't even retain on Kerfoot to sell him.