Hockey Outsider
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I'll take Dave Lewis's word over some reporter that says he heard Bowman say it. Dave Lewis had been there for Lidstrom's entire career and for most of Yzerman's career.
Damn those reports, always accusing Bowman of saying things he never did! So now the reporter's a liar, too, putting words in Bowman's mouth? Is everyone who disagrees with you a liar?
Don't forget that Bowman never liked Yzerman anyways. Remember he tried to trade Yzerman when he first came here and now I wish he would've done that. It would've been better for Yzerman's career.
What _actually_ happened is that Bowman helped Yzerman evolve into a more complete player. I'd say it worked out pretty good for both Yzerman and the Red Wings franchise.
So you're admitting that Yzerman was the Red Wings best player in the 2002 playoffs? If not then you aren't on my side.
I said Yzerman was great during the 2002 playoffs.
That so called best defenseman didn't do anything in the first round.
OK. He didn't shut down Naslund, Bertuzzi and Morisson. He didn't score the goal that prevented the team from going down 3-0 to Vancouver. He didn't play 30 minutes per game. He didn't score a point per game.
First of all, Lidstrom didn't play like a Norris trophy winning nor conn smythe winning defenseman. It was Yzerman that played like the conn smythe winner and he got shafted big time.
Nothing new here.
1. Yes, Yzerman played like a Conn Smythe winner
2. No, Lidstrom did play like a Conn Smythe winner. I've already posted a lot of facts and evidence, which you've never addressed.
3. There can be more than one Conn Smythe calibre performance by two players on the same team!
Even the crowd at the Joe was stunned. Did you not hear the silence when Lidstrom was first announced as the winner?
Another outright lie. Watch this video. http://www.detroithockey.net/multimedia/196.php Listen carefully. You might hear the "silence", but it's mostly overwhelming by the crowd erupting in cheers.
Once again, the Red Wings didn't have anybody else. With Hasek in the net they could've stuck just about anybody back there and they would've been fine.
So the Stanley Cup winning team didn't need any defensemen?
I just completely disagree with it. Lidstrom wasn't the best player. At the time Yzerman was not expected to play again.
You disagree. No need to call Bowman a liar. Saying "I disagree with Bowman" is one thing. Saying "Bowman is lying, and lied only to appease the crowd, because he secretly believes that I'm right" is the height of dishonesty.
Apparently you watched a different game.
I'm starting to reach the same conclusion.