kovazub94
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Confirmed with Link: Rangers Re-Sign Mika Zibanejad (5 years x $5.35M AAV)
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possible. if he's going to be a 30 goal scorer in this league, his PP production needs to go up. he has 55 goals over the last 3 seasons and only 10 have been on the PP and just 2 PPG last year on this team.
he has the shot and one time ability but it hasn't translated yet.
East Coast Bias
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Yes how can anyone have an opinion, with your supporting argument of a bunch of your opinions.
I'm not going to derail this thread with Stepan talk, but I thought the return was underwhelming - I'll leave it at that.
Edge
Kris King's Ghost
His shot is good enough to put up 30, not sure if the other areas of his game get him to that level consistently.
But 25 is certainly not unrealistic.
He's 5v5 performance left a lot to be desired. Zibs will need to be more engaged at even strength.
Overall I'm expecting the D to score more and the centers to struggle scoring goals.
IMO Miller will be down the middle and take on a shutdown role by January so Hayes can go back to getting softer minutes.
Rangers still have enough depth upfront to get a mismatch. Although a single injury can change that.
silverfish
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If you believe this team was a contender.
If you believe that Stepan wasn't overpaid.
If you believe that Stepan wasn't declining.
If you don't care about Stepan's trade-protection because you'd rather have him on the team.
Then it's likely that you're not a huge fan of the trade.
My opinions.
Inferno
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but without trading stepan you cant get Shattenkirk.
to me Shattenkirk + Pavelec + DeAngel0 + Andersson > Stepan + Raanta
silverfish
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never mind. this is OT. it doesn't matter. I hate the Stepan trade. You don't. Can't do anything now. It happened.
Edge
Kris King's Ghost
Why are people hating there? Usually people hate on here. lol. But a lot of people here seem to be ok with this deal. I am fine with it.
kovazub94
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I usually hate this type of trade evaluation (e.g. the Rangers got a 3rd round pick in Nash's trade, not Buchnevich), or looking at a trade value in isolation of surrounding circumstance (e.g. sf's point about a NYR being a contender that traded away its 27-yo 1C).
In this case, however, ability to sign Shattenkirk should be a part of equation.
Sayba
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Yet he is not a number 1 center, but given our need at the position I'm fine with the contact.
Edge
Kris King's Ghost
I'm with you in the sense that it depends on the factors - including time, the type of deals, etc.
I mean it's a gutsy move and the Rangers assume most of the risk. Andersson and DeAngelo, though both very talented, are still unproven. Stepan, strengths and weaknesses, is a known commodity.
The real challenge in all of this are the Staal/Girardi contracts. There's just no getting around how badly they hurt.
Zibanejad needs to not worry about picking corners with his one timers on the PP. He's not Ovechkin, he just needs to get it on net. Some he'll blow past the goalie and others will be saves but he shoots it hard enough that it's tough for a goalie to make a clean save, which creates rebounds and other scoring chances.
Always trying to pick the top corner off a one timer is going to result in a lot of misses that rim around and out
e: of course maybe he isn't trying to do that at all but man sometimes it feels like guys are just trying to hit this perfect shot when all you need at times is just the simple thing
Always trying to pick the top corner off a one timer is going to result in a lot of misses that rim around and out
e: of course maybe he isn't trying to do that at all but man sometimes it feels like guys are just trying to hit this perfect shot when all you need at times is just the simple thing
Larrybiv
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I think quite possibly, we all got fooled by that many years ago. One would naturally think a NMC and an NTC , was all PRO for the player.
When in reality, this is PRO for the team when the word "limited" is used before it.
Then it automatically gives said team an "out"......get ready to pack your bags.
Larrybiv
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Larrybiv
We're CLEAN, we PROMISE!
I think when players see a player like Ovie and see what he does, it is only natural for them to believe they can do it as well. They can, just not as often.
IMO, that "slam dunk" and "perfect shot" are the 2 main culprits as to why our PP has been a black hole for many years, simply not enough shots......oh yeah, and being atrocious at getting in the zone and setting up. Simplify, simplify.
If I am running the PP, I strongly "demand" that (each and every player given PP time,) they simply need to put the puck on the net and "force" the goaltender to make that initial save, then an all out effort to collect the rebound.
A rebound causes the defense to scramble and sometimes a goaltender out of position just one pass later, bam!......there's your PPG.
Don't players know they get an assist if their shot is saved and we put in the rebound?
GordonGecko
First Ping Pong Ball
yeah right, too much dead money for too long - it's not going to happen and it better not happen. Gorts needs to engineer another Gomez package
a year? nooo, don't give people a heart attack lol. He's signed for another two seasons
And surprising too since Mika's brother is a noob, but then again not too surprising since Persians are generally good business people / negotiators
Machinehead
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You all thought Stepan was overpaid at 6.5 with what Johanssen is getting now. For the Rangers to get a Center like Stepan its going to cost them more then the 6.5 he was making. I think Stepan is very comparable to Johannsen. Stepan Career PPG is .69 where as Johannsen is .66. We can't afford to get a number 1 center, We have prob a number 2 center in Zib, and 2 number 3 Centers in Hayes and Miller. Center will be an issue for the Rangers this season.
Larrybiv
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Machinehead
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