Pre-Game Talk: Potential P-Word Preview: Montreal Canadiens @ Toronto Maple Leafs | Saturday Apr. 13

fsdev905

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There's no denying Orr and McClaren have done a great job in their roles this year.
Their role will be diminished if not completely eliminated in the playoffs.
If they play a team like Montreal in the playoffs and play the same way, they'll see themselves in the box fairly regularly.

Montreal has a 4th line that's built for the playoffs. All 3 of their 4th liners can consistently play on the 3rd line and are the primary penalty killers for the Canadiens.
 

FreeBird

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I thought I'd compare the front offices of the two teams, and it's not even close, it's obvious the Habs are in it for the long haul. Player development is were the Habs really shine. They have Lapointe, Mellanby, and Brisbois all who have played 1000 nhl games, Mellanby works with the Forwards throughout the system and Brisbois does the same with Defencemen with Lapointe over sees all the prospects in the system. The Leafs have Bobby Hughes who has no nhl experience doing it all. The scouting staffs stick out like a sore thumb, I actually recognize most of the scouts who have played at the pro level on the Habs. To top it off the GM has played over a 1000 games and his two asst GM's have also played at the nhl level, our GM has not and is not surrounded by the evaluation talent that the Habs GM has at his disposal. And the prospect list proves it, Habs by wide margin, their forward prospects are being tutored by Mellanby and their defencemen by Brisbois on a daily basis as they travel the world working with these young prospects, while Hughes works with all the prospects by himself. The long term future favours the Habs by a large margin.
 

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The Leafs draw their fair share of penalties too, no? I think both teams are really fast. I don't see the Leafs not being able to keep up with them.
 

Pi

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I thought I'd compare the front offices of the two teams, and it's not even close, it's obvious the Habs are in it for the long haul. Player development is were the Habs really shine. They have Lapointe, Mellanby, and Brisbois all who have played 1000 nhl games, Mellanby works with the Forwards throughout the system and Brisbois does the same with Defencemen with Lapointe over sees all the prospects in the system. The Leafs have Bobby Hughes who has no nhl experience doing it all. The scouting staffs stick out like a sore thumb, I actually recognize most of the scouts who have played at the pro level on the Habs. To top it off the GM has played over a 1000 games and his two asst GM's have also played at the nhl level, our GM has not and is not surrounded by the evaluation talent that the Habs GM has at his disposal. And the prospect list proves it, Habs by wide margin, their forward prospects are being tutored by Mellanby and their defencemen by Brisbois on a daily basis as they travel the world working with these young prospects, while Hughes works with all the prospects by himself. The long term future favours the Habs by a large margin.

Ken Holland had such an illustrious career in the NHL as a goaltender. No wonder he's such a good GM for the Red Wings.
 

Liferleafer

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There's no denying Orr and McClaren have done a great job in their roles this year.
Their role will be diminished if not completely eliminated in the playoffs.
If they play a team like Montreal in the playoffs and play the same way, they'll see themselves in the box fairly regularly.

Montreal has a 4th line that's built for the playoffs. All 3 of their 4th liners can consistently play on the 3rd line and are the primary penalty killers for the Canadiens.

I've gotta ask...why? Unless i missed the rule change that body contact is no longer allowed in the postseason.:laugh:
 

FreeBird

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Ken Holland had such an illustrious career in the NHL as a goaltender. No wonder he's such a good GM for the Red Wings.

I'm talking about the development personel that's what it's all about. If you look at the big picture does Nonis have more credentials than Gordie Stelleck does to be the Leafs GM.
 

Pi

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I've gotta ask...why? Unless i missed the rule change that body contact is no longer allowed in the postseason.:laugh:

Exactly. Orr doesn't take many stupid penalties, and neither does McLaren.

None of those guys will be in the penalty box regularly if they're playing. They know their roles.

We also have a versatile Frattin, McClement, Komarov and Hamilton who can play those roles if needed.

Bottom 6 or our 4th line guys is the last thing I'm worried about.
 

jughead42*

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I thought I'd compare the front offices of the two teams, and it's not even close, it's obvious the Habs are in it for the long haul. Player development is were the Habs really shine. They have Lapointe, Mellanby, and Brisbois all who have played 1000 nhl games, Mellanby works with the Forwards throughout the system and Brisbois does the same with Defencemen with Lapointe over sees all the prospects in the system. The Leafs have Bobby Hughes who has no nhl experience doing it all. The scouting staffs stick out like a sore thumb, I actually recognize most of the scouts who have played at the pro level on the Habs. To top it off the GM has played over a 1000 games and his two asst GM's have also played at the nhl level, our GM has not and is not surrounded by the evaluation talent that the Habs GM has at his disposal. And the prospect list proves it, Habs by wide margin, their forward prospects are being tutored by Mellanby and their defencemen by Brisbois on a daily basis as they travel the world working with these young prospects, while Hughes works with all the prospects by himself. The long term future favours the Habs by a large margin.

It warms the cockles of my heart to know a guy they used to call Breeze-by because he played like a pylon will be instructing the Habs blueline prospects. Awesome news.
 

Jimmy Firecracker

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Canadiens players won't engage and the refs will take penalize the instigator.

Orr and McLaren don't just randomly jump people for no good reason. The only example of that was with Kaleta in Buffalo, and even then Kaleta had it coming. Besides that, neither of them have done anything to jeopardize this team.
 

Asif16*

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Orr and McLaren don't just randomly jump people for no good reason. The only example of that was with Kaleta in Buffalo, and even then Kaleta had it coming. Besides that, neither of them have done anything to jeopardize this team.

Habs fans are trying to save their ***** from looking soft, by coming out and saying stuff like "Orr and Mclren arent hockey players, they're just goons", "It wont work", "I dont care if our players get pummeled, we will go ahead and try to fail on the powerplay", "we dont engage in fisticuffs because we are a clean teams that plays the game the right way", "Our fourth liner are better hockey players than yours". LOL

Whining already. I wonder what level the whining is gonna get too in the playoffs
 

CellarDweller0

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Imagine if our last game of the season vs. the Habs will determine home ice advantage...

That would be great. I don't think we can make up the 6 pts. though. Too many points.

We need a big one this Saturday. I might go down and try to get nosebleed seats after the game starts.

Best Avatar EVER!
 

Hanta Yo

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There's no denying Orr and McClaren have done a great job in their roles this year.
Their role will be diminished if not completely eliminated in the playoffs.
If they play a team like Montreal in the playoffs and play the same way, they'll see themselves in the box fairly regularly.

Montreal has a 4th line that's built for the playoffs. All 3 of their 4th liners can consistently play on the 3rd line and are the primary penalty killers for the Canadiens.

Maybe you should take your own advice of watching the games of the team you're talking about before posting.

Or just read below.

Exactly. Orr doesn't take many stupid penalties, and neither does McLaren.

None of those guys will be in the penalty box regularly if they're playing. They know their roles.

We also have a versatile Frattin, McClement, Komarov and Hamilton who can play those roles if needed.

Bottom 6 or our 4th line guys is the last thing I'm worried about.

Orr and McLaren don't just randomly jump people for no good reason. The only example of that was with Kaleta in Buffalo, and even then Kaleta had it coming. Besides that, neither of them have done anything to jeopardize this team.

Love how we already have a Montreal fan coming here to just to tell us how great their bottom forwards will be in the playoffs where as ours will be useless.
 

SteveV*

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What I find intriguing about possible series, one of the best PP's meets one of the best PK's, another reason I like how we matchup against the Scabs.
 

Asif16*

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Maybe you should take your own advice of watching the games of the team you're talking about before posting.

Or just read below.





Love how we already have a Montreal fan coming here to just to tell us how great their bottom forwards will be in the playoffs where as ours will be useless.

Didnt we beat them on the scoreboard and physically, having both Mclaren and Orr on the team once already?? Yet they make it sound like the leafs are bottom feeders and its all becuase of ORR and MCLAREN. lol.

Soft tings
 

jasonleaffan

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Didnt we beat them on the scoreboard and physically, having both Mclaren and Orr on the team once already?? Yet they make it sound like the leafs are bottom feeders and its all becuase of ORR and MCLAREN. lol.

Soft tings

We beat them twice this year. Lost once.
 

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Why are Habs fans so worried about Leafs dressing or not dressing Orr and MacLaren?

:laugh:
 

thatshype

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I thought I'd compare the front offices of the two teams, and it's not even close, it's obvious the Habs are in it for the long haul. Player development is were the Habs really shine. They have Lapointe, Mellanby, and Brisbois all who have played 1000 nhl games, Mellanby works with the Forwards throughout the system and Brisbois does the same with Defencemen with Lapointe over sees all the prospects in the system. The Leafs have Bobby Hughes who has no nhl experience doing it all. The scouting staffs stick out like a sore thumb, I actually recognize most of the scouts who have played at the pro level on the Habs. To top it off the GM has played over a 1000 games and his two asst GM's have also played at the nhl level, our GM has not and is not surrounded by the evaluation talent that the Habs GM has at his disposal. And the prospect list proves it, Habs by wide margin, their forward prospects are being tutored by Mellanby and their defencemen by Brisbois on a daily basis as they travel the world working with these young prospects, while Hughes works with all the prospects by himself. The long term future favours the Habs by a large margin.

Frankly....who cares if their front office has NHL games under their belt? There are plenty of examples of great players that are garbage scouts/coaches/trainers, and plenty of amazing scouts/coaches/trainers that never made the NHL. I honestly don't think it matters as much as you think it does....a good coach/trainer/etc is a good coach, regardless of whether or not they played in the NHL. Wayne Gretzky has a pretty dismal career as a Coach, and he's arguably the best hockey player that ever lived.

Some people can play the sport, some people can think about the sport intellectually. If I had to choose ONE of those traits, I'd go with the smarter hockey mind everytime over the better hockey player.
 

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