OT: Philadelphia Phillies: The Road To .500

[DancingPanther]

Wheeler is just unreal. What a gem.

Wheeler and his contract annoy me so much because a player vastly outperforming a contract like this is usually what pushes teams over "the hump". Unfortunately, the Phillies were/are such a mess it pushed them to the base of the hump.

I use annoy in quite the literal way. I obviously don't dislike him or the contract

 

[Flybynite]

Wheeler and his contract annoy me so much because a player vastly outperforming a contract like this is usually what pushes teams over "the hump". Unfortunately, the Phillies were/are such a mess it pushed them to the base of the hump.

I use annoy in quite the literal way. I obviously don't dislike him or the contract

Yea. His performance for the value of his contract is probably #1 among pitching contracts over $100m. Some of them turned into real lead weighs. Hell, Nats have two bad ones.

Strasburg on a 7 yr/$245m (8 starts in 3 years)
Patrick Corbin on a 6 yr/$140m (92 GS, 4.67 ERA over 4 years)
Wheeler 5 yr/$118m (59 GS, 2.73 ERA over 3 years)

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Same record through 84 games as ‘08…

You know what that means?!

 

[FLYguy3911]

Wheeler's contract was thought to be an overpay at the time too.

 

[FLYguy3911]

Speaking of contracts, he blew a save last night but I didn't realize how good David Robertson has been this year. Kind of sums up the Klentak era.

 

[DancingPanther]

Arenado getting a taste of his own medicine

 

[FLYguy3911]

This is what 20 command looks like.

 

[Halladay]

Thompson same as Girardi doesnt get it. He cant close.

 

[Cody Webster]

This team...

 

[Cody Webster]

This team!!

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Wow great play by Stott to cover first so Hoskins could hold the runner at third.

 

[Jack Straw]

Never in doubt.

 

[FLYguy3911]

Back-to-back shutties.

 

[Halladay]

Im dead. Team needs another bat and drop Castellanos to the end of the order.

 

[Jack Straw]

This team...

This team!!

Is there an echo in here?

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Back-to-back shutties.

Analytics wise don’t the Phils have good hitting & starting pitcher in comparison to the league this year? It’s more so their bullpen that’s let them down?

 

[Cody Webster]

Is there an echo in here?

As you said, never in doubt....

 

[FatTugboatFlahr]

Analytics wise don’t the Phils have good hitting & starting pitcher in comparison to the league this year? It’s more so their bullpen that’s let them down?

Pens actually been pretty unreal for about 45 days. Everything is firing on all cylinders at the moment though

Edit: But yes, the pen was pretty awful with Girardi.

 

[Flybynite]

 

[Schwarbomb]

Im dead. Team needs another bat and drop Castellanos to the end of the order.

Castellanos and JT have to step it up.

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

Knebel should still not be closing. Jesus he scares me. Glad they won though.

 

[Hurricane28]

Pens actually been pretty unreal for about 45 days. Everything is firing on all cylinders at the moment though

Edit: But yes, the pen was pretty awful with Girardi.

Almost like having set roles means a ton. Something Girardi never got

 

[montreal]

Knebel should still not be closing. Jesus he scares me. Glad they won though.

he hasn't been, not sure why he was today, they have been going with Hand and Seranthony Dominguez, one takes the 8th the other takes the 9th, then flipped next time around.

they have gone 25-10 since June though so clearly something is working when you consider the injuries to such key players.

 

[Adam Warlock]

Wheeler and his contract annoy me so much because a player vastly outperforming a contract like this is usually what pushes teams over "the hump". Unfortunately, the Phillies were/are such a mess it pushed them to the base of the hump.

I use annoy in quite the literal way. I obviously don't dislike him or the contract

How exactly are they a mess? Theyre in a playoff spot and playing good ball.

Not saying they arent flawed in areas, but theyre playing like a good team. Depth has been an issue for a while but its nice to see them getting production from a lot of different people. Bohm has all 3 rbis in this series for example. Stott, stubbs, and hall have had moments too.

This is the first time in the harper era that they look like and are playing like a team and not just a bunch of players thrown together. Like ive said many times, I think girardi was a huge issue but with him gone the team has really come together.

I dont see a deep playoff run. But Id feel pretty confident going into a best of 3 series with Wheeler and Nola. Best case is this season is their stepping stone.

 

[DancingPanther]

How exactly are they a mess?

Well, you see

This is the first time in the harper era that they look like and are playing like a team and not just a bunch of players thrown together.