"Paper Bag Day": Saturday, March 4th

[Whileee]

I agree with you surprisingly.
Let's do nothing it fits the TNSE
methodology.
Sit there and take it people, it will get much better.
We will extend Maurice!
Re sign Pavelec at a super hot Winnipeg discount !
We'll shake the waiver bushes and come up with a gem !
Give Buff more autonomy!
Reduce Laine's role so that he can learn the game !
We will have one more development year !
It's all falling into place it will be fun.

Why would we resort to wearing bags.

I would say the 80's called and want their Jets back but I can't because those Jets actually made the playoffs

I don't mind protesting poor performance, but paper bag heads is just lame.

The one advantage is that it would make it simpler to identify a segment of HFJets members at the game.

 

[Ducky10]

I'm not quite there yet myself but the only way to get sports owners to pay attention to what you want them to is to stop giving them your money.

You can wear a paper bag all you like, but the fact you're actually there, wearing a paper bag on your head means they already have your money. So who wins this little protest?

 

[Halloween Jack]

We are making the assumption that the ownership doesn't actually care about winning. There is no evidence in that regard. They might not know exactly how to solve it, but paper bag heads aren't exactly going to give much direction.

I don't think people wearing paper bags are trying to give direction towards winning... however it is a voice towards other aspects of the business. Like season ticket price increases going up from 3% to 5% this term.

 

[Halloween Jack]

I'm not quite there yet myself but the only way to get sports owners to pay attention to what you want them to is to stop giving them your money.

You can wear a paper bag all you like, but the fact you're actually there, wearing a paper bag on your head means they already have your money. So who wins this little protest?

Good point

 

[Puckatron 3000]

Great idea!

To really nail the point home, you should fill the bag with dog crap, since that's how they've played lately. I won't be able to make it for that game. But rest assured I'm wearing an imaginary bag of dog crap on my head in solidarity with you.

 

[robertocarlos]

You can't even bring your own home-made Belgian waffles.

 

[Jets 31]

Instead of a bag on your head , wouldn't it just make more sense to boo the Jets as they come on the ice ? Not that i would do it but it makes more sense than wearing a goofy bag on your head for 3 hours. I'm pissed that we have yet another year of meaningless hockey to go through , but not to the point we embarrass our selves as fans . When Edmonton fans threw jerseys on the ice i laughed at how stupid that made the fans look , i hope no one does any of these things .

 

[Eyeseeing]

I don't mind protesting poor performance, but paper bag heads is just lame.

The one advantage is that it would make it simpler to identify a segment of HFJets members at the game.

Touché
I dunno Whilee this coming season has to be a 180 from this one.
I was initially willing to give it this season with improvement but it's gotten worse.
This posting is all in good fun and I'm guessing you are getting a bit impatient as well.
I personally don't like hearing excuses from coaches or mgmt ,*****ing about bad breaks as good organizations work around and through them.
I do give Chevy credit for assembling a better roster BUT the rub for me is how much worse we are playing.
Chevy or Chipman someone is unable to admit this current team is going nowhere without major changes.
Time will tell .

 

[Whileee]

Touché
I dunno Whilee this coming season has to be a 180 from this one.
I was initially willing to give it this season with improvement but it's gotten worse.
This posting is all in good fun and I'm guessing you are getting a bit impatient as well.
I personally don't like hearing excuses from coaches or mgmt ,*****ing about bad breaks as good organizations work around and through them.
I do give Chevy credit for assembling a better roster BUT the rub for me is how much worse we are playing.
Chevy or Chipman someone is unable to admit this current team is going nowhere without major changes.
Time will tell .

I'm frustrated like many others, but I think it makes sense to try to analyze the sources of poor performance. I think it's just simplistic to blame ownership for not focusing on winning, or knee jerk reactions to the performance, especially when there are very clear and understandable explanations, including poor performance by goaltenders (including Hellebuyck) and some key vets (Enstrom, Buff, Perreault and maybe Wheeler), along with the use of a very young roster.

 

[Whileee]

Great idea!

To really nail the point home, you should fill the bag with dog crap, since that's how they've played lately. I won't be able to make it for that game. But rest assured I'm wearing an imaginary bag of dog crap on my head in solidarity with you.

The mental image of a host of HFJets posters with crap-filled paper bags on their heads is almost too vivid to bear.

 

[nobody important]

Like pretty much every sports teams home crowd.

Rating fan bases is stupid, so is judging them.

It was merely an observation. No judgment intended. Hey, I'm probably the quietest guy in the arena.

 

[Whileee]

I don't think people wearing paper bags are trying to give direction towards winning... however it is a voice towards other aspects of the business. Like season ticket price increases going up from 3% to 5% this term.

The logical protest for high ticket prices is obvious and economical.

 

[Puckatron 3000]

The mental image of a host of HFJets posters with crap-filled paper bags on their heads is almost too vivid to bear.

The mental scent is even worse.

 

[WinnipegWinter*]

Wow. Im done with these boards - any one on board with this is pathetic. Its been 6 years lol

 

[Ducky10]

Wow. Im done with these boards - any one on board with this is pathetic. Its been 6 years lol

I'm calling flounce.

 

[Afterburner]

I saw "paper bag" and think lunch not protest.

Or "place to put bottle of alcohol to drink stealthily"

 

[Gm0ney]

The 1980s called, they want their fan gimmick back....

But seriously, why would the NHL's most avid and creative fans resort to this?

Did they want Jump back too? Also, I hope you warned them about 9/11.

 

[Eyeseeing]

Well, that would be quite the protest. I can just picture it. People all around start passing out and slumping forward, and the arena is filled with the outraged cries of "Stop leaning!".

Often heard in loge country
Stop leaning

 

[heretik27]

Not really feeling the idea, although I've only been to one game donated by a generous poster here I agree with a previous post by a STH that you should simply voice your issues with the feedback review you do in a calm and rational manner with well organized points.

Paper bagging your heads isn't going to affect any short term decisions with our management. Everything they do is focused on some semblance of a long term plan. Why? Because it's also easier to say "it's a process" and ignore poor results in the now if you're always talking about the future 3-5 years down the road. Management has to address our goaltending situation this off season with Pavs being UFA and clearly not our solution in net. It's highly unlikely they try the Hellebuyck+Hutchinson tandem again next year after such poor results unless Hellebuyck can take the reigns between now and the end of the season.

Paper bagging is for wimps though, if you REALLY want to send a message try and convince the masses to not show up at all for the hockey game. Perhaps find an alternative to hockey that night in the form of I dunno... Man U vs Bournemouth!?

 

[buggs]

The logical protest for high ticket prices is obvious and economical.

So I should give up my season tickets or am I misinterpreting your statement?

The feeling I get from TNSE is that they're happy insomuch as they're making money. They're looking at the economic situation and deciding that A)the Canadian dollar continues to perform poorly cutting into their bottom line and B)we have a largely captive audience so we'll just raise prices to cover our margins (plus profit, of course). If that affects any of our season ticket holders then hey, they can walk and we'll pluck someone off the wait list to take their place. Loyalty is for those inside the organization. Eff the rest of them. I'm sure they're displeased with the on-ice product as well but I've seen no outward indications of it. To the contrary I see statements that seem to imply "we're just this close to the playoffs" and we're sure everything will be ok. There's no urgency despite being a rather pathetic team, in terms of performance, for the tenure here in Winnipeg.


I'm at a loss here as to how to proceed. I'm not giving up my season tickets because I enjoy the privilege of going to NHL hockey games. Generally I enjoy them, be it to watch our guys or as of late, to watch other teams outperform our guys. My only real avenue of complaint is to fill out the end of season ticket holder survey. I'm not convinced that they take any of it to heart at all. Don't get me wrong here, I don't want management to take MY advice on how to manage the team.

We're in year six. There've been some moves made though really many not until the management has been forced to make them. The team did entirely check out on Noel. Buff threw Kane's tracksuit in the shower forcing the trade. Beyond that? No addressing of goaltending in a meaningful manner (yes, I was supportive of a Hutch/Helle combo for this year but really only in the sense of the Helle half of it) for years. We've squandered most of the Atlanta Core's better years trying to figure things out while icing GST, Mittens, Peluso and others. We are again, pragmatically speaking, out of the playoffs by American Thanksgiving. Within my season ticket group I have for the past several seasons front-loaded my games so I can delude myself that we still have a shot in October, November, December.

So how do I voice those concerns as a season ticket holder? How do I convey the message that I'm not satisfied with the product on the ice? I disagree with paper bags, throwing jerseys on the ice and for the most part, booing the home team. But what avenues are available to suggest I'm largely dissatisfied with the product? If that dog's breakfast of a Tampa game was me in a restaurant eating a meal I'd have asked to speak to the manager about his/her employees' performances - the hostess was great and showed us to a nice seat, but it was downhill after that, the waiter was awful, the product largely undelivered and you want me to pay how much?

I'm well and truly ok with the notion of a growth year with youth in place. But the Jets should be better than they are showing, youth or not in the lineup. I'm not upset because we're not winning, I'm upset because they don't even look like they're trying. It's not JUST goaltending that is hampering this team, far from it. The Helle/Hutch combo was a risk that didn't work (what is preventing us from acquiring another goaltender during the season btw if we are seriously trying to make the playoffs?) The play beyond there is what could best be described as embarrassing at times for young men making millions of dollars to do what they do.

If they were losing by being out-competed by a better team that would be a-ok in my books. But that's not the case in many games. The Leafs were behind us prior to this year in terms of development. I think Matthews is one heck of a hockey player but he's not the difference between the Jets and the Leafs at the moment. And I think the Leafs are considerably further ahead of us in a very, very short time since they tore it down to start over. Year six since the team came over and we're still evaluating and in a developmental year? Oy.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

We are making the assumption that the ownership doesn't actually care about winning. There is no evidence in that regard. They might not know exactly how to solve it, but paper bag heads aren't exactly going to give much direction.

The message is that whatever they are doing now is not good enough, not acceptable. It is ridiculous to think that the fans should be giving them direction.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Instead of a bag on your head , wouldn't it just make more sense to boo the Jets as they come on the ice ? Not that i would do it but it makes more sense than wearing a goofy bag on your head for 3 hours. I'm pissed that we have yet another year of meaningless hockey to go through , but not to the point we embarrass our selves as fans . When Edmonton fans threw jerseys on the ice i laughed at how stupid that made the fans look , i hope no one does any of these things .

No. That would be interpreted as directed at the players (deserved or not) not at management.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

I'm frustrated like many others, but I think it makes sense to try to analyze the sources of poor performance. I think it's just simplistic to blame ownership for not focusing on winning, or knee jerk reactions to the performance, especially when there are very clear and understandable explanations, including poor performance by goaltenders (including Hellebuyck) and some key vets (Enstrom, Buff, Perreault and maybe Wheeler), along with the use of a very young roster.

So ...... nothing to do with coaching then?

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Wow. Im done with these boards - any one on board with this is pathetic. Its been 6 years lol

Exactly! Its been SIX years fcs! The team is worse. The AHL team is worse. SIX YEARS and no better? You don't think that is weak?

 

[Duke749]

Some of you act like this is as bad as it gets. Not even close yet.