Out of Town - Who's your team during these Playoffs

[Belial]

Who predicted that Weber's body wouldn't start to break down as he got older due to his playing style? Who predicted that the Habs window to win was while Pacioretty/Price were in prime years with lower cap hits? Who predicted this team was headed towards the bottom of the league based on the moves made every offseason? Oh wait...this is what people have been arguing for years.

I actually predicted exactly how many goals the team would score. I said we'd score about 2.4-2.5 GPG, and whaddya know. 30th in the league with 2.51. League scoring was way up this year, so that basically ensured that we'd be right where I said we would be: struggling for a playoff spot.

So no. This is not a great team. Everyone knew it but you.

So you didn't? Great to know.

 

[NotProkofievian]

So you didn't? Great to know.

Everyone knew but you that this team was not good at all. That's before the puck was even dropped. However, what's interesting, is that well into this season, after all this terribleness unfolded, you were still arguing that this was a good team. It has nothing to do with prediction at that point, just plain observation. Everyone understood but you.

 

[Andy]

Did you predict Weber out for the whole season?

Did you predict Price having a brutal season?

Did you predict Pacioretty sucking that bad?

Pretty sure you didn't predict any of that so please....

The Habs sucked before Weber was out. Even if Pacioretty and Price had good years, they still would have been a bad team because they are fundamentally poorly constructed.

You were wrong on all accounts. And laughably so.

 

[Belial]

Everyone knew but you that this team was not good at all. That's before the puck was even dropped. However, what's interesting, is that well into this season, after all this terribleness unfolded, you were still arguing that this was a good team. It has nothing to do with prediction at that point, just plain observation. Everyone understood but you.

Ohhhh man , I still believe it! You're not going to convince me that this team is complete trash!

The Habs sucked before Weber was out. Even if Pacioretty and Price had good years, they still would have been a bad team because they are fundamentally poorly constructed.

You were wrong on all accounts. And laughably so.

Yeah the Weber playing on one leg after the first game?

It's fine to disagree.

I just don't think to lose Markov and Radulov drops you from division leader to bottom feeder.

This was a brutal season.

 

[Bloumeister]

It's a joke how Bergevin only got a couple of ahlers and low 2nd for him.

Looks like one has to use the smiley even when post is obvious

 

[NotProkofievian]

Ohhhh man , I still believe it! You're not going to convince me that this team is complete trash!

That seems like a rational approach.

 

[Andrei79]

Top six bottom six is a dumb logic. Good enough?

It's simply a way to define usage. So no, still not good enough.

 

[Andy]

Ohhhh man , I still believe it! You're not going to convince me that this team is complete trash!



Yeah the Weber playing on one leg after the first game?

It's fine to disagree.

I just don't think to lose Markov and Radulov drops you from division leader to bottom feeder.

This was a brutal season.

I said nothing about Markov and Radulov. The team was flawed with Weber, Price and Pacioretty and predictably so. You can't excuse your way out of this one. The team was trash and performed like it, predictably so.

You were wrong, awfully wrong.

 

[Bloumeister]

Ohhhh man , I still believe it! You're not going to convince me that this team is complete trash!



Yeah the Weber playing on one leg after the first game?

It's fine to disagree.

I just don't think to lose Markov and Radulov drops you from division leader to bottom feeder.

This was a brutal season.

I put my garbage in front of the house every week on Tuesday.

Every week, they come to pick up the trash.

The trash can is still good, though, even after all these years.

 

[Shabs]

Why can’t we do this?

Edit: re flames firing their coaching staff

 

[Belial]

It's simply a way to define usage. So no, still not good enough.

lines are getting rolled there's not a huge difference in minutes...

I said nothing about Markov and Radulov. The team was flawed with Weber, Price and Pacioretty and predictably so. You can't excuse your way out of this one. The team was trash and performed like it, predictably so.

You were wrong, awfully wrong.

I was wrong about what exactly?

I put my garbage in front of the house every week on Tuesday.

Every week, they come to pick up the trash.

The trash can is still good, though, even after all these years.

I'm extremely happy for you.

 

[Tyson]

We fire one guy. We can’t just change the culture. Lefebvre is not gone.

JJD should have been shown the door as well as the entire AHL staff.

Worst PK in the league and the coach responsible is still here?

 

[DaNaultinus]

That would require a competent GM or Owner. We have neither.

 

[Mathletic]

Gudas is a freaking idiot but shame on the Flyers for keeping that guy in the league. They deserve Couturier's injury. Feel bad for Sean though.

 

[Captain Mountain]

Why can’t we do this?

Because we hired the coach just over a year ago and there's no reason to think that Montreal wont be making changes to the assistant coaching staff?

 

[Andrei79]

lines are getting rolled there's not a huge difference in minutes...

My last post on the subject seeing as you're only willing to engage posters, then deflect when you're being pressured to offer any insight.

In short, you're wrong. Plekanec has been top 3 in ice time amongst forwards for years, including this year. If he's not the most used center, he's the second most used and there's a often a significant gap with the next, or second next center.

So, now that we've established definitions, will you cease with the semantics and actually offer that insight ? What justifies this top 6 usage and why do those that disagree with it lack knowledge ?

 

[Per Sjoblom]

Why can’t we do this?

Edit: re flames firing their coaching staff

It was because he threw that stick!

 

[le_sean]

Gudas is a freaking idiot but shame on the Flyers for keeping that guy in the league. They deserve Couturier's injury. Feel bad for Sean though.

I can dislike weasels like Marchand and Kesler but they are doing their jobs and do it well.

Gudas is someone I wouldn’t care if he gets severely injured on the ice. He’s deserved it for years with his headhunting garbage. Him and Orpik.

 

[Belial]

My last post on the subject seeing as you're only willing to engage posters, then deflect when you're being pressured to offer any insight.

In short, you're wrong. Plekanec has been top 3 in ice time amongst forwards for years, including this year. If he's not the most used center, he's the second most used and there's a often a significant gap with the next, or second next center.

So, now that we've established definitions, will you cease with the semantics and actually offer that insight ? What justifies this top 6 usage and why do those that disagree with it lack knowledge ?

5on5.

 

[Shabs]

Because we hired the coach just over a year ago and there's no reason to think that Montreal wont be making changes to the assistant coaching staff?

This is why we can’t have nice things!

 

[sandviper]

Ohhhh man , I still believe it! You're not going to convince me that this team is complete trash!

Technically, this is true. We are not complete trash since we finished 28th.

 

[1909]

We fire one guy. We can’t just change the culture. Lefebvre is not gone.

JJD should have been shown the door as well as the entire AHL staff.

Worst PK in the league and the coach responsible is still here?

They are cutting the small salaries. They are stucked with the big ones.

 

[Laurentide]

Why can’t we do this?

Edit: re flames firing their coaching staff

Do you really think that the problems plaguing this team have much, if anything, to do with coaching? Scotty Bowman on his best day couldn't have got this craptastic team into a playoff spot. As the late Red Fisher always said "Show me the players!"

The reason we suck isn't because our team is badly coached. It is because it does not have enough talent. And the reason it doesn't have enough talent is because the person in charge of assembling talent, the General Manager, doesn't know how to properly do his job. The GM. That is the problem area. If you don't address that, nothing else you do will matter. You need a competent GM who can acquire talented players. A team full of talented players can make any coach look like a genius.

 

[Mrb1p]

Ohhhh man , I still believe it! You're not going to convince me that this team is complete trash!



Yeah the Weber playing on one leg after the first game?

It's fine to disagree.

I just don't think to lose Markov and Radulov drops you from division leader to bottom feeder.

This was a brutal season.

You mean losing a top 2 D and losing a top line winger doesn't drop a team from division leader to bottom feeder ? Remove any 2nd best D on any team and remove their 2nd best forward (In the Habs case, best.) and see how they fare.

 

[Belial]

You mean losing a top 2 D and losing a top line winger doesn't drop a team from division leader to bottom feeder ? Remove any 2nd best D on any team and remove their 2nd best forward (In the Habs case, best.) and see how they fare.

Wasn't Dallas supposed to win the cup this year?