Ottawa and LA, only 2 teams remaining without a regulation loss

[Samsquanch]

To all the analytics being brought up in this thread.. They COULD be a potential indicator for future troubles but as of right now, the stats and results that are actually happening are just fine for anyone who roots for the Sens.

I don't think anyone would ever disagree that the Sens without Karlsson are likely mediocre at best. But with Karlsson, and the right system, they can do some damage to any team in the league imo.

I hope that most of the league continues to underestimate this team at full strength. It works to our benefit.

 

[swiftwin]

To all the analytics being brought up in this thread.. They COULD be a potential indicator for future troubles but as of right now, the stats and results that are actually happening are just fine for anyone who roots for the Sens.

That's what people said last season, and that he Sens would have trouble making the playoffs... then they made the playoffs
That's what people said last season when they were supposed to be easily handled by the Bruins in the first round... then they won
That's what people said last season when the Sens only made it out of the 1st round because the Atlantic was weak, and that a might Metro team like the Rangers would knock them out... then they won
That's what people said last season when the Sens were facing the mighty Penguins, it would be an easy 4 game sweep... they pushed them to game 7 double overtime
That's what people said this season when the Sens started without Karlsson and that all those successes last season were solely because of him... Then Sens are only one of only two teams with no regulation losses

Advanced stats don't mean shit without context. An entire season season + playoffs + early start to this season is more than enough of a sample size for me to believe that low advanced stats are not a problem for Ottawa. They obviously play a specific system that is not flattering to these silly "metrics", but is very effective to get Ottawa wins, especially in the playoffs.

 

[Syckle78]

Did you know players can score weak goals sometimes? Crazy

Good thing actual goals count more than chances.

 

[Syckle78]

Lol dude. We made the ECF and went to game 7 20T with that Dman, who had a shattered heal. And it was year #1 with a new coach, which can be painful right???

Carry on...

Yes but Toronto's whopping two playoff wins is more impressive because they competed....or something.

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

Good thing actual goals count more than chances.

5 games in chances are a better indicator of success

 

[SensontheRush]

Why are Leafs fans coming in here picking fights? guys need to CHILL, your team is doing great.

......just so happens we have the better team.

 

[Ryan Michaels]

Sens suck cause the leaf centered media continuously says so !

Not going to humor this, the Canadian media or hockey broadcasts are insanely biased towards every Canadian team(to a fault as a Leafs fan and as a fan who likes impartial broadcasting on any game I watch except Boston...Edwards is too damn entertaining) and pump the Sens tires like ****ing crazy.

Until the Leafs legitimately had a team worthy of praise they were kissing the feet of Price and Karlsson daily and gave them way more time than the Leafs(deservedly so) they still give their time to every Canadian team and maybe a bit extra to the Leafs because they are much more popular than Ottawa(thems the breaks) and objectively one of the most exciting teams in the league, they still root hard for every Canadian team. But every fanbase likes to play the victim.

 

[Korpse]

This isn't true at all. Edmonton had 15 high danger scoring chances and ottawa had 4

I find that intriguing. Edmonton was around the net for parts of the game but I can't recall them having very many open looks, Ottawa did a good job of applying pressure and getting body position. They protect the net well and really suffocate you when you are in between the face-off circles. I don't doubt Edmonton had more attempts from dangerous areas but I do question the quality of those attempts. Also important to remember the road team had a 2-0 lead 9 minutes into the game.

 

[SensontheRush]

Not going to humor this, the Canadian media or hockey broadcasts are insanely biased towards every Canadian team(to a fault as a Leafs fan and as a fan who likes impartial broadcasting on any game I watch except Boston...Edwards is too damn entertaining) and pump the Sens tires like ****ing crazy.

Until the Leafs legitimately had a team worthy of praise they were kissing the feet of Price and Karlsson daily and gave them way more time than the Leafs(deservedly so) they still give their time to every Canadian team and maybe a bit extra to the Leafs because they are much more popular than Ottawa(thems the breaks) and objectively one of the most exciting teams in the league, they still root hard for every Canadian team. But every fanbase likes to play the victim.

Isn't the act of replying "humouring" this post?

 

[aufheben]

That's what people said last season, and that he Sens would have trouble making the playoffs... then they made the playoffs
That's what people said last season when they were supposed to be easily handled by the Bruins in the first round... then they won
That's what people said last season when the Sens only made it out of the 1st round because the Atlantic was weak, and that a might Metro team like the Rangers would knock them out... then they won
That's what people said last season when the Sens were facing the mighty Penguins, it would be an easy 4 game sweep... they pushed them to game 7 double overtime
That's what people said this season when the Sens started without Karlsson and that all those successes last season were solely because of him... Then Sens are only one of only two teams with no regulation losses

Advanced stats don't mean **** without context. An entire season season + playoffs + early start to this season is more than enough of a sample size for me to believe that low advanced stats are not a problem for Ottawa. They obviously play a specific system that is not flattering to these silly "metrics", but is very effective to get Ottawa wins, especially in the playoffs.

They made the playoffs by 4 points and beat two decent teams.

 

[CanadianHockey]

I don't think it's unfair to think Ottawa is probably riding a hot streak right now, which is what all these advanced stats arguments are trying to demonstrate.

That said, pretty good time to get hot - in time to cover off Karlsson's absence.

 

[Knave]

One thing is clear. Ottawa has elite talent. Turris showed up Matthews on HNIC with a much more skilled goal where he went 1 on 4. If the Ottawa forwards weren't so great all-around and Toronto forwards weren't so crappy defensively - Turris would have been the highlight of the night, no doubt. But because Turris is a much better and more complete player, a goal to make it 6-0 isn't a big deal, doesn't get the attention and isn't the highlight of the night.

 

[Cokenfries]

One thing is clear. Ottawa has elite talent. Turris showed up Matthews on HNIC with a much more skilled goal where he went 1 on 4. If the Ottawa forwards weren't so great all-around and Toronto forwards weren't so crappy defensively - Turris would have been the highlight of the night, no doubt. But because Turris is a much better and more complete player, a goal to make it 6-0 isn't a big deal, doesn't get the attention and isn't the highlight of the night.

Hahaha....no wonder you never won a cup

 

[topshelf15]

Meh ,when healthy we are probably one of the better 4 line checking teams in the league .That also has decent depth on the blueline and in nets.Dont understand why its so surprising to some here that Ottawa is actually playing well,and looks to be a playoff team again in the east.

That being said we could probably use anther top 6 guy,Macarther is a player we have missed in the last few seasons and we really havent replaced him

 

[55sensfan]

One thing is clear. Ottawa has elite talent. Turris showed up Matthews on HNIC with a much more skilled goal where he went 1 on 4. If the Ottawa forwards weren't so great all-around and Toronto forwards weren't so crappy defensively - Turris would have been the highlight of the night, no doubt. But because Turris is a much better and more complete player, a goal to make it 6-0 isn't a big deal, doesn't get the attention and isn't the highlight of the night.

Guy Boucher is teaching all the Sens to be complete players. It is a requirement of his system. This makes them difficult to play against. Look at Hoffman who was a hopeless one dimensional player just two years ago.

This may not last but it is encouraging that Boucher's system may not be a one year wonder. So far, we are seeing a very cohesive team that is showing buy in to the system. If anything, they are showing greater confidence, despite missing Karlsson. It is great opportunity for both Klaesson and Chabot who are gaining valuable experience in Karlsson's absence. This could be a big bonus as the season progresses.

 

[55sensfan]

Meh ,when healthy we are probably one of the better 4 line checking teams in the league .That also has decent depth on the blueline and in nets.Dont understand why its so surprising to some here that Ottawa is actually playing well,and looks to be a playoff team again in the east.

That being said we could probably use anther top 6 guy,Macarther is a player we have missed in the last few seasons and we really havent replaced him

Colin White when he returns from injury?

 

[Shruggs Peterson]

So since this has been Ottawa heavy to this point, the Kings are also sporting a sv% that is 34 points higher than the league average.
Nice to see Kopitar get off to a hot start and Dustin Brown has played a good week of hockey, has that happened in the last 5 years?

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

One thing is clear. Ottawa has elite talent. Turris showed up Matthews on HNIC with a much more skilled goal where he went 1 on 4. If the Ottawa forwards weren't so great all-around and Toronto forwards weren't so crappy defensively - Turris would have been the highlight of the night, no doubt. But because Turris is a much better and more complete player, a goal to make it 6-0 isn't a big deal, doesn't get the attention and isn't the highlight of the night.

It might have been the highlight of the night if people cared about the Sens. But they don't

 

[topshelf15]

Colin White when he returns from injury?

Yeah ,Getting some speed and skill that can play the RW slot would be very nice also.After Stone and Ryan it gets a little thin on natural RW ,s

 

[PatrickMcC]

Not going to humor this, the Canadian media or hockey broadcasts are insanely biased towards every Canadian team(to a fault as a Leafs fan and as a fan who likes impartial broadcasting on any game I watch except Boston...Edwards is too damn entertaining) and pump the Sens tires like ****ing crazy.

Until the Leafs legitimately had a team worthy of praise they were kissing the feet of Price and Karlsson daily and gave them way more time than the Leafs(deservedly so) they still give their time to every Canadian team and maybe a bit extra to the Leafs because they are much more popular than Ottawa(thems the breaks) and objectively one of the most exciting teams in the league, they still root hard for every Canadian team. But every fanbase likes to play the victim.

this post is fake news

 

[Divine]

Are Sens fans really complaining that the Canadian media is giving more attention to the highest ranked Canadian team in the league?

 

[PoutineSp00nZ]

Hahaha....no wonder you never won a cup

The Senators winning cups in the early 20th century have about as much relevance today as other teams winning cups in a 6 team league.

None of it matters. Yet loads of people like to brag about cup wins from before they were born.

 

[topshelf15]

Are Sens fans really complaining that the Canadian media is giving more attention to the highest ranked Canadian team in the league?

6 games in ???and they are the highest ranked team.....We came within a goal of the final ,yet we dont hear much ..except how Marner and Matthews got tattoo,s ......Yeah no bais at all from the windbags out of Toronto at all

 

[Boud]

Are Sens fans really complaining that the Canadian media is giving more attention to the highest ranked Canadian team in the league?

Lol is this guy serious.

Have you not been around in the last 10 years??????

It has nothing to do with where they are ranked, it has everything to do with having the biggest fanbases. Toronto has more media coverage when they are bottom 10 in the league compared to when Ottawa is top 10.

 

[swiftwin]

They made the playoffs by 4 points and beat two decent teams.

My point exactly.