Confirmed with Link: Orlov and Hathaway and Andrei Svetlakov to Boston for 2023 first-round pick, 2025 second-round pick, 2024 third-round pick, and forward Craig Smith

[ClevelandCapsfan]

We have good players if it were still the year 2018.

How does the team really get better if they are unwilling to move any of the expensive players who’s contracts are an albatross. Riddle me that.

Please explain how you can possibly move Backy, Oshie, or Carlson right now. I’m all ears.

 

[SecretaryofDefense5]

Please explain how you can possibly move Backy, Oshie, or Carlson right now. I’m all ears.

Incentivize. Add picks and retain some $. The coyotes are historically a contract dumping ground.

Please explain how you can possibly move Backy, Oshie, or Carlson right now. I’m all ears.

And you’re missing Kuzy from that list.

 

[ClevelandCapsfan]

Incentivize. Add picks and retain some $. The coyotes are historically a contract dumping ground.


And you’re missing Kuzy from that list.

I agree Kuzy can and should be moved.

 

[AlexBrovechkin8]

I picked a hell of an evening to not be around my phone or computer. B- return. Think they could and should have gotten another pick or piece for taking both Smith and retaining. Regardless, big props to BMac for at least seeing the writing on the wall and acting decisively.

I will miss both of these guys but Boston, woof.

Also, I'm not convinced they keep Smith. They may flip him.

 

[Monsterrain]

Lavi would bring back Alzner and Schultz from retirement as the 3rd pair before AA/Johanson.

Please dont bring up the double nickel on this forum. We have ptsd from him.

 

[Capsman]

I would like this trade if I had any confidence in Maclellan's drafting. I have little. Which late first rounder of his has panned out yet?

 

[Bruinaura]

Just dropping in to say please be nice to Smitty. He's not had a good season but you'll never question his effort. Good guy and I'm sad he couldn't stay on the B's.

 

[Firsov99]

Wouldn't that require Ovy, Wilson, or Backstrom to be traded? I look at more as a retool with UFAs who seemed to be ready to move on from the Caps.

I don't think that Ovy and Backy will ever get traded. Both will retire here in a few years. So, in my view, we are starting to rebuild from the bottom, so to speak. It's inevitable, but at the same time, the team can't wait to start its rebuild until Ovi's contract ends.

 

[AlexBrovechkin8]

Just dropping in to say please be nice to Smitty. He's not had a good season but you'll never question his effort. Good guy and I'm sad he couldn't stay on the B's.

I'm hoping they're not planning on keeping him. I'm sure he's a good dude but he's useless to the Caps this season.

 

[ON3M4N]

I'm hoping they're not planning on keeping him. I'm sure he's a good dude but he's useless to the Caps this season.

There were rumors floating around that Carolina may have interest in Smith before Boston traded him to WSH.

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

Why Bruins' trade for Dmitry Orlov, Garnet Hathaway could be a home run

The Bruins addressed two important roster needs by acquiring defenseman Dmitry Orlov and right wing Garnet Hathaway in a trade with the Capitals. Here's our breakdown of the deal from every angle.

sports.yahoo.com

 

[toddkaz]

Hi I am not a Capitals fan or Boston fan so I have a question.

Why trade away Orlov and Hathaway when you are fighting for a playoff spot?

Flip the picks for help at the deadline? Rebuild?

Thank you and sorry if it is a stupid question I don't follow either team.

 

[JohnCarlsaurus]

Just dropping in to say please be nice to Smitty. He's not had a good season but you'll never question his effort. Good guy and I'm sad he couldn't stay on the B's.

Sweet he's already an improvement over Mantha & Kuznetsov

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

Hi I am not a Capitals fan or Boston fan so I have a question.

Why trade away Orlov and Hathaway when you are fighting for a playoff spot?

Flip the picks for help at the deadline? Rebuild?

Thank you and sorry if it is a stupid question I don't follow either team.

Too decimated…..hoping for a bounceback next year….

 

[Hivemind]

Why trade away Orlov and Hathaway when you are fighting for a playoff spot?

They aren't fighting for a playoff spot at this point. They're out of it. Their 5 game losing streak sealed the deal. Florida has one game in hand, Pittsburgh and Detroit both have 3. All three of those teams are ahead of the Capitals. Buffalo is only 2 points behind the Caps and has 4 games in hand. Caps aren't making it this year.

 

[AlexBrovechkin8]

Hi I am not a Capitals fan or Boston fan so I have a question.

Why trade away Orlov and Hathaway when you are fighting for a playoff spot?

Flip the picks for help at the deadline? Rebuild?

Thank you and sorry if it is a stupid question I don't follow either team.

Caps have the most man games lost to injury this season and the only defenseman they have under contract next season is John Carlson. Half their forwards are free agents too and there are probably 10 teams in the East that are better than them right now.

It’s the best thing for them to sell what they can this year and use those assets to retool over the next year or two.

 

[toddkaz]

They aren't fighting for a playoff spot at this point. They're out of it. Their 5 game losing streak sealed the deal. Florida has one game in hand, Pittsburgh and Detroit both have 3. All three of those teams are ahead of the Capitals. Buffalo is only 2 points behind the Caps and has 4 games in hand. Caps aren't making it this year.

2 points out with a game in hand. I would say they are still in it.

 

[Hivemind]

When I first saw this deal pop up on my phone, I was pretty satisfied with the return. Thought it was essential a 2nd for Hatheway and a 1st + 3rd for Orlov. While there was some hope of a bidding war for Hath driving his cost up to a 1st, that was probably a pipe dream.

Then as I settled down to my computer and saw the details, I became less and less enthused. All of the picks are Boston's, so likely late. The 3rd is in 2024 and the second not until 2025. They're eating Craig Smith's contract AND they're retaining 50% on Orlov. All that for giving up two of their best (if not their two very best) likely trade assets? Big fat MEH on this return considering all that. It's not outright bad, but Boston nickled and dimed every bit they could away from the Capitals on this one.

2 points out with a game in hand. I would say they are still in it.

They have a game in hand on Florida, but not on Pittsburgh, Detroit, or Buffalo. They aren't in it.

(Not to mention they're on their way to their sixth straight loss tonight against freaking Anaheim. This team is in freefall right now)

 

[13Hockey]

Was there any rumors on what the price of his next contract is going to be?


5.5-7 mill aav?

 

[Langway]

2 points out with a game in hand. I would say they are still in it.

They've been awful in CY2023. Among the very worst in the league.

 

[twabby]

Was there any rumors on what the price of his next contract is going to be?


5.5-7 mill aav?

I don’t think there’ve been any rumors but I suspect your range is about right.

 

[Brian23]

Was there any rumors on what the price of his next contract is going to be?


5.5-7 mill aav?

You have to assume it was 6 plus, and he's looking for a lot of term. So at least 6 years, probably pushing for the max to negotiate it down though. He doesn't like to move around and wants security.

 

[Langway]

Grading the Orlov/Hathaway trade: The Bruins load up, the Capitals give up

The Bruins up their championship odds with two major upgrades. The Caps were wise to sell but didn’t get enough...

www.dailyfaceoff.com

But did they get enough? Orlov undoubtedly became a marquee target on defense as soon as Washington made him available, which, from my understanding, only happened recently. Could they not have shopped around more to see if a better offer presented itself? Instead, they end up surrendering Orlov and Hathaway with zero prospect additions and just the one first-round pick to show for it – a pick that won’t be high. Theoretically, they could flip Smith, but they’d probably have to retain some of his 3.1 million cap hit to do that, and he’d yield a late-round pick at best.

On one hand, the Capitals deserve credit for recognizing their situation and having the guts to begin a transitional period. On the other, the return just doesn’t cut it. Not when you’re giving up two players that will significantly augment a contender’s championship odds.

Grade: C-

 

[Raikkonen]

Hathaway was ideal warrior to add to your team at deadline. I am not satisfied with him being traded to Boston in a package. that looks like a loss.

orlov... always liked him, but signing him for 6 years and high cap hit looks like mistake, so no complaints for trading him

outside chance to sign him again in the summer

so return is questionable, but uf they sell everybody and take care about oshie, mantha and possibly kuzy later - I'm on board

would keep mojo though, no complaints about his play, and he's versatile

 

[PlushMinus]

2 points out with a game in hand. I would say they are still in it.

You must have posted this before the loss to Anaheim - which is the Caps 6th straight loss