Third on Anaheim in 5v5 TOI. A better barometer of 'what pairing' a player belongs to. He spent majority of the season playing with Lindholm. You're punishing him because he doesn't play on the PP, and that's not why I want to trade for him. I want to trade for him because he's a dominant 5v5 defenesman.
I haven't done the research on what changing teams does to a player, but I'd imagine good shot suppressors have transitional skills from one team to the next. I think you're putting too much weight on switching systems here. Maybe his raw numbers would fall, but relative to the rest of NYR, he'd be a dominant shot suppressor here, too, IMO.
I don't believe too much in "shot suppression" independent of anything else. I value "possession-driving" and "puck-carrying" more, and if it's along with "shot suppression" then woohoo.
Players who play good defense but don't do much with the puck are less valuable than guys who may occasionally get beat but who are usually helping dictate the play and possessing the puck.
I tend to agree with eco's bones post that you quoted.
I really like Manson but he's just a better version of the TYPES of D we have.
He's a better Klein; a better McIlrath; what we perhaps hoped McIlrath would be (or what he might've been and still might be if AV stopped ****ing with him and let him play the way Manson does for ANA, depending on how you feel.)
Brandon Montour is the type of defenseman we want.
We need the next generation of Vatanen / Barrie / Shattenkirk before they become those players and get paid the huge salaries.
Brandon Montour.
Julius Honka.
Ryan Murphy even.
And don't get me wrong, I'd love Manson on this team. I'm a huge fan. But I'm not willing to trade what it would take to get him because I think we should use those assets, if at all, for the puck-carrying, rush-leading, powerplay-QBing, possession-driving defenseman that we currently don't even have an old model of.
