Official Expansion Draft Protection Thread (Howard protected over Mrazek)
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vladdy16
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Nosek's potential has been on par with or better than our 3rd and 4th line centers for the past... 160 games?
I guess the Wings are super confident in their projections considering Nosek saw limited action in his 17 game Red Wing career.
I don't know enough to spot the difference between a guy that can put up 22 points in the AHL playoffs and continue that development in the NHL, and a guy who has reached his ceiling. Hopefully the Wings do.
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Ahl playoffs don't matter when you're on a stacked team with like 4 scoring lines and a bunch of ahl masters beside you (street and such)
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I'm just saying I'm suspicious about the dilligence that was done in Noseks case.
Most years I would defer to the front office, but with Glendenning and Sheahen ahead of you on the depth chart, I think there's a chance we didn't give the guy a good shot rather than know for certain he's done developing.
I feel like there's still a possibility that Nosek is a better player than Sheahen and Glendenning.
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I don't think he's as good as sheahan unless he doesn't bounce back. Luke? Maybe
waltdetroit
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I have read so many articles on this, I don't remember exactly where. I'll try to find it tomorrow when I have more time.
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Vegas took the gamble. Looks to me like Detroit was lucky not to lose anyone with trade value.
Nosek has potential, but will he reach it? That's the gamble.
Nosek did and still won't bring back anything in a trade, where as Sheahan, Ouellet, and Mrazek could or should, at the time of the ED.
Lazlo Hollyfeld
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Just wondering if you've had a chance to find those sources stating Mrazek's demands that Howard be traded.
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Guy was a free agent pick from Europe and lost for free at expansion draft.
Nothing really important in big picture.
i don't if he demanded a trade, but he was upset the wings didn't trade howard according to khan
http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/2017/06/red_wings_left_petr_mrazek_unp.html
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I just wondered if there were any stories about his attitude prior to Holland leaving him exposed. Whether it's true or not, if there weren't any stories around the time it happened it just shows how much power the Wings have in what is or is not reported.
As far as I've seen for the most part stories about Mrazek's attitude didn't really start coming out until the last couple weeks.
khan posted in article in January about mrazek's attitude.
http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/2017/01/work_ethic_attitude_keys_to_ge.html
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I'd seen that one. It really only refers to one incident of him not staying on the ice. One tantrum is different than a full blown attitude problem. But maybe that was the tip of the iceberg?
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It must have been the Khan article. Sorry but I am guessing that I read the following & I didn't remember it right when I posted. It doesn't actually say he "demanded" a trade.
"Mrazek was not happy the Red Wings were unable to trade Howard in the off-season and let the club know in less-than-tactful terms."
saw this article today comparing howard and mrazek's play the last couple years. fantastic read imo
https://theathletic.com/69115/2017/06/21/the-on-ice-breakdown-of-mrazek-vs-howard/
https://theathletic.com/69115/2017/06/21/the-on-ice-breakdown-of-mrazek-vs-howard/
Henkka
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Absolutely great article. Howard rebounded with a style which Henrik Lundqvist is known for. Hope this continues.
