Speculation: OEL trade megathread part 2

[iFan]

15 minute delay now since Benning was scheduled to talk to the media

where is the video being streamed?

 

[XX]

On the one hand I’m bummed the Bruins are missing out. It’s always nice when a guy wants to come to your club and fills a position of need. On the other hand, curious what 8.25 gets you on this strange UFA market.

It was never said why Boston is out. Likely Van's offer is better. Still could happen.

 

[Nucker42]

where is the video being streamed?

Canucks twitter streaming live

 

[rt]

If we are trading Demko:

Demko
Eriksson
Virtanen
1st

for

OEL
Garland
2nd

Take our Garland and the 2nd. Add Raanta with retention. And also Juolevi or Rathbone.

 

[BoHorvat 53]

Take our Garland and the 2nd. Add Raanta with retention. And also Juolevi or Rathbone.

Demko is pretty much untouchable.

Sutter
Rathbone
Juolevi
2021 1st rounder

OEL

Is what I’ll take a guess is what the deal is.

 

[Luck 6]

Demko is pretty much untouchable.

Sutter
Rathbone
Juolevi
2021 1st rounder

OEL

Is what I’ll take a guess is what the deal is.

I don’t think we can trade Rathbone and Juolevi.

 

[rt]

Demko is pretty much untouchable.

Sutter
Rathbone
Juolevi
2021 1st rounder

OEL

Is what I’ll take a guess is what the deal is.

Add Virtanen.

 

[BoHorvat 53]

I don’t think we can trade Rathbone and Juolevi.

Have to give to get.

 

[Bonham]

I would be pretty disappointed if that was the deal.

They are the only team left negotiating.

No need to give up our two best Defensive prospects and our First.

 

[rt]

I would be pretty disappointed if that was the deal.

They are the only team left negotiating.

No need to give up our two best Defensive prospects and our First.

Here we go again. This is what happens when jackasses post like they know something.

There is no evidence to suggest that Boston is out of it, other than posters on this forum speculating about it based on literally nothing, and posting it authoritatively like it's real.

 

[rt]

Have to give to get.

Have to give a lot more to get.

 

[Bonham]

Here we go again. This is what happens when jackasses post like they know something.

There is no evidence to suggest that Boston is out of it, other than posters on this forum speculating about it based on literally nothing, and posting it authoritatively like it's real.

Don't be so offended, it's a trade forum.

If you don't believe the rumour then at the very least they are one of two teams. They are obviously holding out with an offer that is less than pleasing to Arizona. They should not be giving up two of their better prospects and their first round draft pick for a contract like OEL in this situation.

 

[Peter Griffin]

I would be pretty disappointed if that was the deal.

They are the only team left negotiating.

No need to give up our two best Defensive prospects and our First.

They won’t. Arizona GM stated himself that the ROR trade was the basis and even then they probably won’t get that. Two cap dumps, a roster player, 1st and 2nd. Sutter, Roussel, Virtanen, Juolevi and ‘21 1st.

 

[BoHorvat 53]

Add Virtanen.

Gaudette?

I would be pretty disappointed if that was the deal.

They are the only team left negotiating.

No need to give up our two best Defensive prospects and our First.

Anaheim was the last team left when trading for Kesler, doesn’t change the fact that we got a first + Bonino + Sbisa (Wasn’t considered a negative asset before he came here).

Similar to Kesler, OEL is coming off what is considered to be a down year, relative to his standards. They’re not going to trade away their captain for free

 

[wintersej]

It was never said why Boston is out. Likely Van's offer is better. Still could happen.

Oh I think the Bruins have totally moved on to the UFA class.

 

[BoHorvat 53]

Have to give a lot more to get.

Fair enough, I would reluctantly add JV but would first try my hardest to get Gaudette squeezed in there in his place.

 

[BoHorvat 53]

Oh I think the Bruins have totally moved on to the UFA class.

Just because Boston’s end is quiet doesn’t mean they’re out of it imo. We haven’t had any news since yesterday and Friedman even said that the situation is fluid (paraphrasing what was said as a whole) so while Boston could’ve paused negotiations they could just as easily come back to the table.

 

[iFan]

Gaudette?



Anaheim was the last team left when trading for Kesler, doesn’t change the fact that we got a first + Bonino + Sbisa (Wasn’t considered a negative asset before he came here).

Similar to Kesler, OEL is coming off what is considered to be a down year, relative to his standards. They’re not going to trade away their captain for free

Kesler didn’t have 7 years at a 8.25 million cap hit!

 

[BoHorvat 53]

Kesler didn’t have 7 years at a 8.25 million cap hit!

That he did not but they had to sign him to an extension. No matter where Kesler signed he would’ve gotten similar numbers to what he signed for in Anaheim.

Edit: and you’re not going to let a player of Kesler’s caliber to just walk

 

[rt]

Don't be so offended, it's a trade forum.

If you don't believe the rumour then at the very least they are one of two teams. They are obviously holding out with an offer that is less than pleasing to Arizona. They should not be giving up two of their better prospects and their first round draft pick for a contract like OEL in this situation.

I'm not mad at you! haha. Sorry, in reading my post now, I see I wasn't clear about that at all. I really didn't mean you. I meant that you had that conclusion very understandably due to all the bullshit flying around.

 

[Bonham]

Gaudette?



Anaheim was the last team left when trading for Kesler, doesn’t change the fact that we got a first + Bonino + Sbisa (Wasn’t considered a negative asset before he came here).

Similar to Kesler, OEL is coming off what is considered to be a down year, relative to his standards. They’re not going to trade away their captain for free

I am not suggesting free, but our two best defensive prospects and our first round draft pick seems like a bit much in this instance.

Kesler also didn't come with an absolute anchor of a contract like OEL. Look at the lack of movement in the last few days from teams that are desperately trying to shed cap as well as the number of solid players that were not qualified. The financial situation in the league and the flat cap is the motivating factor at the moment. A 7 year commitment to OEL with a contract that pays him as a top 5 defenseman is a liability. He has yet to live up to the deal and who knows if he ever will.

The situations just aren't comparable.

 

[rt]

Oh I think the Bruins have totally moved on to the UFA class.

Based on....?

 

[hmc1987]

This and the Gaudreau speculation are the most interesting parts of this offseason.

As much as fans DISLIKED the whole coronavirus thing, and I hate/hated it too, I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE the 4-6 week offseason so we get hockey started again in like ~2 months (training camps even sooner).

Selfish me though XD XD

 

[_Del_]

Kesler didn’t have 7 years at a 8.25 million cap hit!

Kesler was willing to sit out a season at home on his couch to get to a team he wanted to go to.

OEL is perfectly happy coming back to the team, but agreed to go to two different teams.

Not really the same...

 

[wintersej]

Just because Boston’s end is quiet doesn’t mean they’re out of it imo. We haven’t had any news since yesterday and Friedman even said that the situation is fluid (paraphrasing what was said as a whole) so while Boston could’ve paused negotiations they could just as easily come back to the table.

HFBoard vetted source said on podcast today that Bruins were valuing OEL as a 6-6.5 AAV player. Hard to see how that works.
‎Bruins Diehard: Boston Bruins Analysis, NHL Recap, and Hockey Chatter on Apple Podcasts

edit: forgive me have not actually listened to it yet just going by what people said on the Bruins board so can’t give a time stamp.