News and Notes Thread IX: Paper Bags and LaRose Colored Glasses

[rocky7]

the dedication to Boychuk after the time frame, the complaints, the opportunities, the waiving around the league and back, and still the same lack of any significant results is indeed ............pick a word. weird maybe. but I agree estaalo about these terrific prospects.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Boychuk was cut, waived and sent to Charlotte so I wouldn't say he was given the job. Also, although it's my speculation, I believe Terry would likely be a 13th forward if not for the rash of injuries. When you lose the number of forwards the Canes have so far, you get stuck with AHL tweeners.

EDIT: and I think sometimes we miss seeing the forest through the trees.

Alex Semin: 0G, 2 points
Elias Lindholm: 0G, 1 point
Victor Rask: 0G, 0 points
Justin Faulk: - infinity
Games missed: J. Staal (8), E. Staal (5.5), Skinner (4), Gerbe (4), Sekera (1.5),
Ward: .840 Sv %, Anton: .891 Sv %

 

[Anton Babchuk]

i disagree. there was clearly a spot left open in the top 9 (or at the very least, in the lineup) for a "prospect". the injuries only contributed to the problem. it was a pointless risk to go sign so many defensemen but so few forwards. one of the contracts given to gleason/bellemore should have been given to a forward. this was discussed at the time and gets discussed every year but each year people fall into the trap that AHL production matters and that somehow terry/boychuk/dalpe/whoever are just going to start being useful despite showing zero indications whatsoever.

it's going to happen next year, too. it will be different names and faces but the same story. five years from now we will still be hearing about mcginn and rask's potential while jay harrison is slobbered over by luke decock.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Loktionov aside, nobody wants to sign here right now.

 

[Unsustainable]

Loktionov aside, nobody wants to sign here right now.

LaRose wants a return a Cane

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

LaRose wants a return a Cane

That just supports my point.

 

[Blueline Bomber]

In today's broadcast, John said that Peters stated he was looking forward to having Gerbe and Dwyer return because he likes the energy guys. He'll love LaRose.

 

[Unsustainable]

In today's broadcast, John said that Peters stated he was looking forward to having Gerbe and Dwyer return because he likes the energy guys. He'll love LaRose.

Read a Daniels quote about LaRose being an energy guy.

 

[Lucky Lindy]

So, maybe we can ship one of Harrison/Gleason to Rangers? They'll miss McDonagh for a while, and probably Klein too. Boyle's still injured and Moore suspended.

Do it Ronnie!

 

[Joe McGrath]

So, maybe we can ship one of Harrison/Gleason to Rangers? They'll miss McDonagh for a while, and probably Klein too. Boyle's still injured and Moore suspended.

Do it Ronnie!

If they could trade Harrison to the Rangers that would be great. Once they get healthy I can go heckle him at their AHL affiliates practice rink which is 3 minutes from my house.

 

[tomdundo]

So, maybe we can ship one of Harrison/Gleason to Rangers? They'll miss McDonagh for a while, and probably Klein too. Boyle's still injured and Moore suspended.

Do it Ronnie!

If they could trade Harrison to the Rangers that would be great. Once they get healthy I can go heckle him at their AHL affiliates practice rink which is 3 minutes from my house.

Well, there's this....


Elliotte Friedman ‏@FriedgeHNIC 9m9 minutes ago
Couple notes from our news segment: NYR -- with McDonagh/Klein hurt tonight -- believed to have interest in Sekera (CAR)...



Elliotte Friedman ‏@FriedgeHNIC 9m9 minutes ago
Although I'm not sure CAR is willing to do anything yet...[snip because this part is irrelevant]

 

[TheOllieC]

Please no I could never root for Sekera again.

 

[DaveG]

Ugh, would MUCH rather we try and re-sign Seksy and only trade him if we just flat out can't get it done. Even then I'd want the team getting him to pay out the damn ass for him. From them that would be something like 1st + Miller and Skeji

they can have Harrison for a 4th though.

 

[nobuddy]

If Sekera is traded to the Rangers I will cry forever.

 

[Novacane]

If Sekera is traded to the Rangers I will cry forever.

I won't if it makes the Hurricanes a better team long term.

 

[TheOllieC]

I won't if it makes the Hurricanes a better team long term.

Considering the Rangers have no first rounders for like the next 20 years I doubt trading him to the Rangers would be the best option to improve the team.

 

[TheOllieC]

This was on the Rangers board:

J.T. Miller
John Moore
Conor Allen
Danny Kristo
Oscar Lindberg

For

Sekera
Nash
Brett Pesce (local kid, Rangers fan)

Seems bad to me.

 

[w e l o s t b o y s]

This was on the Rangers board:

J.T. Miller
John Moore
Conor Allen
Danny Kristo
Oscar Lindberg

For

Sekera
Nash
Brett Pesce (local kid, Rangers fan)

Seems bad to me.

JT Miller is the only player with value

 

[Novacane]

This was on the Rangers board:

J.T. Miller
John Moore
Conor Allen
Danny Kristo
Oscar Lindberg

For

Sekera
Nash
Brett Pesce (local kid, Rangers fan)

Seems bad to me.

That's because it is

 

[DaveG]

Yeah that's brutal, we're giving up the 2 best pieces in that trade, and probably the 4th best as well.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

I think it is pretty unanimous that Canes fans would prefer to re-sign Sekera vs. trading him. Not trying to be a pessimist, just at realist, but my view is that it is going to be very difficult to do. Put yourself in Sekera's shoes. He'll be 29 to start next season, he's been in a total of only 8 playoff games his entire career, he's coming off a career year and looks solid this season as well, and the Canes will likely not be competitive for another 2-3 years at least\.

He's going to get paid no matter where he goes, so unless there is some sort of allegiance he has to the Canes (which to me is unlikely has he's had 2 different GMs, 2 different coaching staffs), I can't see him re-signing here. If I was his agent, I'd be steering him to a place like Detroit or some other contender in the east/west.

Hope I'm wrong as I'd love to keep him.

 

[Carolinas Identity*]

I hope we resign him, but that said, I expect nothing less than a 1st + ? If we do trade him.

 

[Carolinas Identity*]

So, this happened during the Belleville//North Bay game

 

[cptjeff]

I think it is pretty unanimous that Canes fans would prefer to re-sign Sekera vs. trading him. Not trying to be a pessimist, just at realist, but my view is that it is going to be very difficult to do. Put yourself in Sekera's shoes. He'll be 29 to start next season, he's been in a total of only 8 playoff games his entire career, he's coming off a career year and looks solid this season as well, and the Canes will likely not be competitive for another 2-3 years at least\.

He's going to get paid no matter where he goes, so unless there is some sort of allegiance he has to the Canes (which to me is unlikely has he's had 2 different GMs, 2 different coaching staffs), I can't see him re-signing here. If I was his agent, I'd be steering him to a place like Detroit or some other contender in the east/west.

Hope I'm wrong as I'd love to keep him.

Regardless, the Canes won't trade them until they have to- which means at the deadline, not now. If things pick up and the team starts winning, Sekera would be much more inclined to re-sign. If the team keeps losing, keep him, try to win him over, but worst comes to worst, there will be plenty of bidders who'll want him for their playoff runs.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Regardless, the Canes won't trade them until they have to- which means at the deadline, not now. If things pick up and the team starts winning, Sekera would be much more inclined to re-sign. If the team keeps losing, keep him, try to win him over, but worst comes to worst, there will be plenty of bidders who'll want him for their playoff runs.

Agree fully, and wasn't trying to imply they'd trade him now. Will only be at the deadline if/when their losing ways continue and the team is pretty sure they won't be able to resign him.