GDT: New Jersey Devils vs New York Rangers: Get Schwifty Edition

[TheUnseenHand]

No. They got out coached, out game planned, out physical'ed.... it's the problem with the abstract notion of fast and attacking when you run into a team that knows how to shut it down.....this shouldn't even have to be highlighted to a Devil fan, we shutdown "fast and attacking" teams for two decades exactly the way Washington did last night.

Dammit, I'm trying to optimistic here for once

 

[My3Sons]

No. They got out coached, out game planned, out physical'ed.... it's the problem with the abstract notion of fast and attacking when you run into a team that knows how to shut it down.....this shouldn't even have to be highlighted to a Devil fan, we shutdown "fast and attacking" teams for two decades exactly the way Washington did last night.

When you could hog tie a player and ride him all the way up the ice that style of play made sense. With the rules enforced the way they are now a fast attacking style should result in a bunch of penalties against the lane clogging clutch and grab defense. Of course the fast attacking team has to be somewhat faster than the team they are playing and have an actual plan B on how to attack that style of defense. I think the best Cap players are probably just as fast as our guys and our young players were not given any sort of plan to deal with a disciplined veteran Caps team that plays semi old school defense.

 

[JimEIV]

Dammit, I'm trying to optimistic here for once

I'm sorry. I'll be quiet now. I'm going to pick on some stockies before the game tonight now.

 

[TheUnseenHand]

I'm sorry. I'll be quiet now. I'm going to pick on some stockies before the game tonight now.

It's fine, I don't necessarily disagree. I just want them to beat the hell out of the rags tonight.

 

[Sik02gt]

ill be there with one other dev fan and 4 rag fans.

 

[EliasFTW]

Hungover. LGD!

 

[JK3]

 

[Cheddabombs]

Went out last night after the first, gonna miss this game as well. Please win.

 

[EliasFTW]

Went out last night after the first, gonna miss this game as well. Please win.

 

[tailfins]

No. They got out coached, out game planned, out physical'ed.... it's the problem with the abstract notion of fast and attacking when you run into a team that knows how to shut it down.....this shouldn't even have to be highlighted to a Devil fan, we shutdown "fast and attacking" teams for two decades exactly the way Washington did last night.

I'm not sure on the outplanned bit. Hynes seemed to have a plan. His quote was:

“When you play against Washington, you see how teams like Pittsburgh have beaten them, going through them. They are able to push them back and put pucks behind them with speed. We didn’t do that enough.”

I can't speak to whether or not this plan is feasible with the talent the Devils have, though. As you say, the Devils for years have been great at using structure to frustrate free-wheeling teams.

 

[My3Sons]

I'm not sure on the outplanned bit. Hynes seemed to have a plan. His quote was:

“When you play against Washington, you see how teams like Pittsburgh have beaten them, going through them. They are able to push them back and put pucks behind them with speed. We didn’t do that enough.”

I can't speak to whether or not this plan is feasible with the talent the Devils have, though. As you say, the Devils for years have been great at using structure to frustrate free-wheeling teams.

I think there is a difference between having a game plan and the actual on the ice way to accomplish the plan. Strategy versus tactics I think is the term. Hynes probably gave them a strategy but the young players probably need specific instruction on tactics. I get that this is the NHL and they are pros yadda yadda but they are a young team. It’s one thing to tell Hall or Palms a strategy and another to Bratt Nico PZ Butcher etc. again the Devils probably should carry about three skills coaches for the young guys. It’s all part of the learning curve and the young guys will learn with experience. Gaudreau went through a period of frustration in his second season in the league until he figured it out. The NJ guys will figure it out. Some of it is just learning to shrug off the bigger guy and double down on hard effort at moving your feet. Fast flying players sometimes forget that part of it when they are initially slowed down. Especially when they are young. I’m confident the future looks bright and the growing pains are just going to be here for a while.

 

[Billdo]

Someone tell me how to post gifs

 

[The 29th Pick]

Someone tell me how to post gifs

a gif from your computer or from a web address

 

[EliasFTW]

Someone tell me how to post gifs

Right click
Select copy image location
click the little mountings and sun image when making a post
paste image url i the pop up box

 

[oxman44]

 

[oxman44]

looks like Hayes, and moore still in, Now lovejoy as well. Get ready for some Holy Grenade handling , bad gaps and awful forecheck defense

 

[Blender]

So Lovejoy is probably playing and Stafford is coming in for Noesen? Should be Moore and Hayes out, they were trash. So much for playing the players who are playing well and not playing the ones who aren't.

 

[oxman44]

So Lovejoy is probably playing and Stafford is coming in for Noesen? Should be Moore and Hayes out, they were trash. So much for playing the players who are playing well and not playing the ones who aren't.

If it turns out to be so, We Might have to score 6 again to pull this one out. Lets hope the Forwards can tun pucks over and keep play up high and in the NZ alot, cuz I dont want to see the puck deep with those D in tonight

 

[Billdo]

a gif from your computer or from a web address

Phone so web address

 

[RSeen]

I think we see:

Hall-Zacha-Palmeri
MoJo-Nico-Stafford
Wood-Henrique-Bratt
Gibbons-Coleman-Hayes

I'm not sure I like Wood in the top 9 to be honest, I think his even strength play hurts that third line. Think he is more fit for that 4th line or honestly in Albany developing his game.

 

[BenedictGomez]

Hall - Zacha - Palms
Mojo - Henrique - Bratt
Wood - Nico - Stafford
Gibbons - Coleman - Noesen

Greene - Severson
Mueller - Santini
Butcher - Prout

I'd go with the above.

Sadly, however, once you're a veteran in the NHL, you can have the worst game of defense in the last 20 years and still not get benched, so Moore's playing.

And I'm sorry, but I'm going to need to see a lot more Prout before I just make it a given he's better than Lovejoy. He wasn't exactly stellar last night.

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

Please no Lovejoy. He provides zero. At least Prout is physical and will drop the gloves.

 

[RSeen]

At least we get to play against Pavelec

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

Hall - Zacha - Palms
Mojo - Henrique - Bratt
Wood - Nico - Stafford
Gibbons - Coleman - Noesen

Greene - Severson
Mueller - Santini
Butcher - Prout

I'd go with the above.

Sadly, however, once you're a veteran in the NHL, you can have the worst game of defense in the last 20 years and still not get benched, so Moore's playing.

And I'm sorry, but I'm going to need to see a lot more Prout before I just make it a given he's better than Lovejoy. He wasn't exactly stellar last night.

Putting Nico with Wood and Stafford is sentencing him to getting pinned in the defensive zone.

 

[kdb527]

Hayes in for Noesen ? Breaking up the most consistent line so far this year. The 4th line has been very good so far. Hayes has not been good at all