Proposal: MTL- STL

[MissouriMook]

How about Dunn+ for Armia @ 80%, Habs 2nd and Blues 4th? What would the + need to be?

 

[Captain97]

How about Dunn+ for Armia @ 80%, Habs 2nd and Blues 4th? What would the + need to be?

I'd do that no plus required from St Louis. But apparently St Louis is interested in lehkonen so perhaps replace Armia at 80% with lehkonen retained down to 2 million.

 

[simon IC]

My guess is blues would want a first (I think that was the asking price)

edit: Dunn for mete swap?

We already have Krug on LD and Perunovich in the system. We really don't need another 5'9" LD.

 

[HabsAddict]

This is a perfect trade.

We get a LHD that is stalled.....that may blossom to what we really need.

Blues get a great, hard working 200ft player with limited offense.

The only fly in this ointment is that Lehky is a lefty winger and we are kind of shy of those. This why it's probably a no by Bbinz.

 

[Colt55]

To Habs: Vince Dunn
To STL: 2nd, 3rd, X pick
To X: Armia

Alternatively:
To Habs: Vince Dunn
To STL: 2nd, 3rd, Kulak

Kukak has another year so if you send kukak then send a first if not then no

 

[simon IC]

The problem with the OP's proposal is it puts the Blues at almost a mil over the cap. Otherwise, I think it is a fair swap, value-wise. Perhaps if the Blues trade Hoffman first, to make room ...

 

[McJedi]

To Habs: Vince Dunn

To Blues: 2nd 2021 and Joel Armia

Fair Deal?

It feels like you’ve got the nuts and bolts for a deal.

add Mete, change the 2nd to a 3rd or 4th. I doubt St. Louis wants or has need for Armia so they’d put a zero value on him. Not negative, but not positive either.

 

[Mersss]

this I would say yes to as St. Louis.

STL fans are out of their mind if they think a uy liek Vince Dunn can net them 2 X 2nd rd pick. Heck, I'd be surprised if he gets a 2nd +...

 

[jellybeans]

Kukak has another year so if you send kukak then send a first if not then no

We dont want Dunn keep him he's -9 on a very good team not worth it.

 

[jellybeans]

STL fans are out of their mind if they think a uy liek Vince Dunn can net them 2 X 2nd rd pick. Heck, I'd be surprised if he gets a 2nd +...

How about Dunn+ for Armia @ 80%, Habs 2nd and Blues 4th? What would the + need to be?

Lol no

 

[Mersss]

Kukak has another year so if you send kukak then send a first if not then no

Funny guy thinks Dunn is worth a 1st? Come on bud, Guy is a defensive wreck, if we want one, we could've got Ghost for a 7th...

Kulak / Mete + 3rd/4th rd pick is more than fair in terms of value. STL fans may not like it, but Habs aren't paying more than a late 2nd or a 3rd for another Marc Andre Bergeron

 

[Habs Halifax]

We dont want Dunn keep him he's -9 on a very good team not worth it.

I'd be interested in Dunn trade but not desperate. Any sniff of a 1st rounder asking price and I'm done. Quick conversation. Dunn as a RFA next year will complicate our cap challenges in the off season as well.

Dunn is not the LD solution we need. Worth inquiring but Habs are not desperate for him. Lehkonen for Dunn straight up. We can retain where the Habs absorb a cap hit = to Lehkonen (to finish the year) if the Blues need the cap space. That's about as far as I would go.... might add a 3rd rounder but talks of a 1st or 2nd? Keep him or try with another team. We are not that high on Dunn

Another option is Mete plus 3rd for Dunn but the Blue retain where we get Dunn to finish the year on Mete's cap hit. Both the Blues and Habs need to think of each others cap space in any trade

 

[Colt55]

Funny guy thinks Dunn is worth a 1st? Come on bud, Guy is a defensive wreck, if we want one, we could've got Ghost for a 7th...

Kulak / Mete + 3rd/4th rd pick is more than fair in terms of value. STL fans may not like it, but Habs aren't paying more than a late 2nd or a 3rd for another Marc Andre Bergeron

You can take your more than fair and go get someone else. Blues say no

 

[Colt55]

I'd be interested in Dunn trade but not desperate. Any sniff of a 1st rounder asking price and I'm done. Quick conversation. Dunn as a RFA next year will complicate our cap challenges in the off season as well.

Dunn is not the LD solution we need. Worth inquiring but Habs are not desperate for him. Lehkonen for Dunn straight up. We can retain where the Habs absorb a cap hit = to Lehkonen (to finish the year) if the Blues need the cap space. That's about as far as I would go.... might add a 3rd rounder but talks of a 1st or 2nd? Keep him or try with another team. We are not that high on Dunn

Another option is Mete plus 3rd for Dunn but the Blue retain where we get Dunn to finish the year on Mete's cap hit. Both the Blues and Habs need to think of each others cap space in any trade

Blues don't need mete and a 3rd. Don't like it move on. Lol

 

[Habs Halifax]

Blues don't need mete and a 3rd. Don't like it move on. Lol

Yup. Move on.

 

[Colt55]

Yup. Move on.

Good I am glad we agree on that. Close it up lol

 

[Mersss]

You can take your more than fair and go get someone else. Blues say no

There's a guy who'll have to leave fantasy land if he thinks Dunn can get them a 1st or 2 X 2nd rd picks...

Habs will gladly move on and grab Dunn once the Blues put him on Waivers or lose him to Seattle

 

[Ted Hoffman]

We already have Krug on LD and Perunovich in the system. We really don't need another 5'9" LD.

We do need more blueline depth in the system. I agree, I don't want it all to be 5' 9" guys.

This is a perfect trade.

We get a LHD that is stalled.....that may blossom to what we really need.

Blues get a great, hard working 200ft player with limited offense.

The only fly in this ointment is that Lehky is a lefty winger and we are kind of shy of those. This why it's probably a no by Bbinz.

That's a terrible trade IMO for the Blues. Even for all of Dunn's flaws, you could say "he's 24, he's got an offensive side to his game that still has room to grow, put him with the right guy and the right coach to improve his defensive game and he could blossom into a very solid 2nd-pairing guy who gets PP time and is effective there." Lehkonen is exactly as you described: offensively limited. We don't need any more of those, we've got 17 of them between the roster, the taxi squad and the farm system. Adding a pick doesn't make it better.

 

[Frenzy31]

There's a guy who'll have to leave fantasy land if he thinks Dunn can get them a 1st or 2 X 2nd rd picks...

Habs will gladly move on and grab Dunn once the Blues put him on Waivers or lose him to Seattle

Why are we putting him on waivers? Making a comment about another poster leaving fantasy land than making that comment is silly.

And from a team management perspective we are going to lose Dunn or Sundquist to Seattle. Are we better off losing both and have a 2nd round pick to show for it or keep 1 of those two players?

From my perspective it makes more sense to understand you are going to lose 1 decent player? I would rather not lose both with mid second to show for it. I would never trade Dunn and Sunny D for a 2nd rounder

 

[Mersss]

Why are we putting him on waivers? Making a comment about another poster leaving fantasy land than making that comment is silly.

And from a team management perspective we are going to lose Dunn or Sundquist to Seattle. Are we better off losing both and have a 2nd round pick to show for it or keep 1 of those two players?

From my perspective it makes more sense to understand you are going to lose 1 decent player? I would rather not lose both with mid second to show for it. I would never trade Dunn and Sunny D for a 2nd rounder

Same goes for the Habs. Trading for Dunn means we'd lose him to SEA instead of losing one of Byron or Chariot, makes no sens to hand out 2nd rd picks like candies for a guy who's a trainwreck in his own zone, and losing him to SEA after

 

[Frenzy31]

Same goes for the Habs. Trading for Dunn means we'd lose him to SEA instead of losing one of Byron or Chariot, makes no sens to hand out 2nd rd picks like candies for a guy who's a trainwreck in his own zone, and losing him to SEA after

Then there is no deal to be made. Blues fans didn’t start the thread. I get your position, but that doesn’t mean the Blues should make a bad trade for no other reason then to help the Habs this season.


Maybe something to revisit after the expansion draft.

 

[BatVader]

To Habs: Vince Dunn
To STL: 2nd, 3rd, X pick
To X: Armia

Alternatively:
To Habs: Vince Dunn
To STL: 2nd, 3rd, Kulak

Winnipeg would take Armia back and fill that X position, but after the XD.... what’s the ask from MTL?

 

[Treb]

Winnipeg would take Armia back and fill that X position.... what’s the ask from MTL?

Whatever STL want its to be. The more I think about it, the more I think we can get more value from Armia in a separate deal and add some other pick to STL.

Winnipeg is not a good direct partner for Montreal as the area of need we have left is LHD. As a pure cap clearing move, I'd ask a 1st from Winnipeg as we will be PO opponents within the first two rounds.

 

[Vachon23]

The problem with the OP's proposal is it puts the Blues at almost a mil over the cap. Otherwise, I think it is a fair swap, value-wise. Perhaps if the Blues trade Hoffman first, to make room ...

We can take Blais or Sanford and we add a little contrat to make the cap work for both

 

[BatVader]

Whatever STL want its to be. The more I think about it, the more I think we can get more value from Armia in a separate deal and add some other pick to STL.

Winnipeg is not a good direct partner for Montreal as the area of need we have left is LHD. As a pure cap clearing move, I'd ask a 1st from Winnipeg as we will be PO opponents within the first two rounds.

A 1st won’t happen